Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

Just now, Escobarp said:

I should add I would imagine hospitality  and retail are being treated differently as they are in essence now forced to close so would argue staff would need to go so triggering these payments. 
 

my employer can’t just claim for a portion of my wage that’s for sur e

Would imagine so.

I also hope that no employers look to profit from false claims about staff lay offs etc.

Pound a pint in Freemasons farnworth all draft 

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Would imagine so.

I also hope that no employers look to profit from false claims about staff lay offs etc.

Well I can think of a number of businesses ran by a certain section of society that will try and do exactly this. 

This Redneck talks a lot of sense regarding the need for Government economic stimulus in times like these:

 

 

Still not the wiser here 

forget people layed off

folk who need to take weeks off for childcare are they covered under this? 

This is to keep people in work when the government have told them to close - it’s incredibly welcome and unheard of.

With rent being sorted out, this means we can now ride out this storm and have an industry and jobs to go back to.

With a really tidy garage to boot.

Just now, radcliffewhite1 said:

Still not the wiser here 

forget people layed off

folk who need to take weeks off for childcare are they covered under this? 

Not unless your employer can’t pay your wage. 

9 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Still not the wiser here 

forget people layed off

folk who need to take weeks off for childcare are they covered under this? 

I don’t think so. But others do so the answer is we don’t kn ow 

I don’t believe this is aimed at covering sick  unless the company is going to lay them off for being sick  which under employment law they can’t actually do without breaking employment law  so again I say no sadly they can’t 

but I may be wrong 

 

i wasn’t 

 

Edited March 20, 20206 yr by Escobarp
I wasn’t wrong

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I did in a way. A better graph would be "hospitalisations" rather than "deaths".

Although morbid, we are using deaths because it's the most accurate way of measuring and comparing the progress. If hospitalization and testing was standardised across the world, we'd use those figures instead, but they aren't at the moment unfortunately. I get what you're saying though, its serious illness we want to avoid, because it causes suffering and direct death of covid patients, and non covid patients, and NHS staff. Nightmare

 

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-to-employers-and-businesses-about-covid-19/covid-19-guidance-for-employees#sick-pay
 

this settles the debate gents 👍🏼
 @radcliffewhite1 you wouldn’t get anymore than stat sick pay or what your own employer usually pays  in the scenario you speak of 

Edited March 20, 20206 yr by Escobarp

Company’s that don’t apply for the full max  will be daft they haven’t put a limit on the borrowing it the country will be paying it back for a generation 

Just now, Farnywhite said:

Company’s that don’t apply for the full max  will be daft they haven’t put a limit on the borrowing it the country will be paying it back for a generation 

Not as simple as applying for the max. The government are not stupid and this is quite  strict in terms of who can apply for what. And what Is key is they cannot expect you to work if they are claiming the 80% of your wage 

7 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Not unless your employer can’t pay your wage. 

 

4 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-to-employers-and-businesses-about-covid-19/covid-19-guidance-for-employees#sick-pay
 

this settles the debate gents 👍🏼
 @radcliffewhite1 you wouldn’t get anymore than stat sick pay or what your own employer usually pays  in the scenario you speak of 

Cheers gents 

 

12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I also hope that no employers look to profit from false claims about staff lay offs etc.

Like I said before, capitalism loves a crisis. You take people on so that their wage at 80% gives you the maximum the govt pays out, you give the people a few hundred for sitting at home and you pocket the rest. 

 

The sting in the tail here is that for your employer to claim the 80% they cannot expect you to work during that time. You must stay away from work to claim any of it. Game changer and a very very clever clause. Furloughed. 

1 minute ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Like I said before, capitalism loves a crisis. You take people on so that their wage at 80% gives you the maximum the govt pays out, you give the people a few hundred for sitting at home and you pocket the rest. 

 

Won’t work. But I get your drift 

1 minute ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Like I said before, capitalism loves a crisis. You take people on so that their wage at 80% gives you the maximum the govt pays out, you give the people a few hundred for sitting at home and you pocket the rest. 

 

You wont be able to claim for anyone not in the RTI system prior to March 1st.

Just now, ZiggyStardust said:

You wont be able to claim for anyone not in the RTI system prior to March 1st.

👍🏼

25 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I did in a way. A better graph would be "hospitalisations" rather than "deaths".

Too ambiguous for me, but i know what you mean, I'm sure there's such a graph out there

14 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Although morbid, we are using deaths because it's the most accurate way of measuring and comparing the progress. If hospitalization and testing was standardised across the world, we'd use those figures instead, but they aren't at the moment unfortunately. I get what you're saying though, its serious illness we want to avoid, because it causes suffering and direct death of covid patients, and non covid patients, and NHS staff. Nightmare

I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about. I work in the aerospace industry. All I know for sure is, the burden on the NHS isn't being expressed enough, and peoples' focus on the "death rate" isn't helping. I have had people trying (and failing) to convince me that it's all a massive over-reaction because "thousands die from the flu every year!". 

Edited March 20, 20206 yr by Cheese

3 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

You wont be able to claim for anyone not in the RTI system prior to March 1st.

That would be good but does it actually say that, I thought it said you could claim back to March 1st which is obviously a different thing.

There are thriving sectors - even in live ents we’re doing ok with paid digital media across platforms with changed content, the gaming team are completely overwhelmed and pulling in from other parts of the group. It’s not just capitalism, in every crisis, there is opportunity. Spend across every media (except out of home) has rocketed.

23 minutes ago, Cheese said:

This Redneck talks a lot of sense regarding the need for Government economic stimulus in times like these:

 

 

The repercussions from this will last for many more years than the virus is here

It's going to kick off, no doubt about it

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about. I build military jets. All I know for sure is, the burden on the NHS isn't being expressed enough, and peoples' focus on the "death rate" isn't helping. I have had people trying (and failing) to convince me that it's all a massive over-reaction because "thousands die from the flu every year!". 

I've had some too, family members and mates. It's ignorance,  a bit of denial and scepticism, bit of what they've heard in the pub or on Facebook. None of them have / have had jobs that require much analysis. I've got a brother whose a high up HR bod for an international manufacturing and distribution company, they've got sites all over the world and they've been running models based on what they've seen in China for employee illness and deaths. He reckons USA is fucked. 

11 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

 I'm sure there's such a graph out there