Youri McAnespie Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Farrelli said: The Swedes are a pragmatic nation but that policy seems very dubious at this moment. And you... 2 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said: 185 died in Sweden yesterday from a population of 10 million. That would be 1200 in a day from the UK's population. White feathers for your war efforts had you been born 125 years ago too. Edited April 25, 2020 by Youri McAnespie Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 Furthermore, Michelle Keegan... This'll be unpopular, but... Cracking body - but she's had help for sure, no-one can be that skinny and retain d-cups. Had work on her boat too I reckon'. Only girl comes close in the 'their mam wouldn't recognise them' stakes is Jermaine Pennant's missus and Babestation favourite, Alice Goodwin. BEFORE. AFTER. Now don't get me wrong, both girls will be relieved to hear I would - before, during and after. I just want to highlight a bit of chicanery on their part. Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 Apologies for bursting your bubble, Rudy - but if I self-pollute then the inspiration during the act must be somewhat based in reality. 😊 Quote
Spider Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: Apologies for bursting your bubble, Rudy - but if I self-pollute then the inspiration during the act must be somewhat based in reality. 😊 My self pollution yesterday included 3 Michelle Keegans. One of them had the just the one job of licking my starfish whilst the other 2 attended to all matters front of house. Reality isn’t an option for me. Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 Too much trouble imo... I already go to the lengths of dunking my nob in mouthwash, I couldn't be arsed sanitising my ringpiece too. Quote
Rudy Posted April 25, 2020 Author Posted April 25, 2020 I’d clean your ring piece Youri to get to this Quote
Spider Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 The nightingale in London has treated 41 Covid patients. Quote
snowball Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 and turned away more than it has treated due to shortage of nurses. Quote
Escobarp Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Spider said: The nightingale in London has treated 41 Covid patients. Genuine question as I find you quite a reasoned individual (apart from on the don of course ) is this a waste of money and resources or was it the right thing to do in your opinion to open all these huge ancillary hospitals at huge cost to the tax payer which now at this moment appear overkill. Quote
mickbrown Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 If you can’t staff it it all seems a bit pointless. Quote
ProfessorWoland Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 41 minutes ago, Spider said: My self pollution yesterday included 3 Michelle Keegans. One of them had the just the one job of licking my starfish whilst the other 2 attended to all matters front of house. Reality isn’t an option for me. You can easily adapt though, have the pre enhanced keegan on starfish duty, that means the enhancements weren't in vain, everyone's a winner. Quote
Tombwfc Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) Struggling to imagine a world where, had we had the number of deaths that Germany have managed, that the same people on here would be saying 'well... give it a year. Still in the first half yet etc.' Edited April 25, 2020 by Tombwfc Quote
ProfessorWoland Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Genuine question as I find you quite a reasoned individual (apart from on the don of course ) is this a waste of money and resources or was it the right thing to do in your opinion to open all these huge ancillary hospitals at huge cost to the tax payer which now at this moment appear overkill. How could you answer though until we are out the other side of this? If there's a second, worse peak in November coinciding with flu season then that place may be full and instead of nurses if they can't press student nurses into action there'll be squaddies with 2 hours of training in attendance. On the data available massive expansion of available beds was the right course of action and it still may prove to be so. Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said: 185 died in Sweden yesterday from a population of 10 million. That would be 1200 in a day from the UK's population. Given how many of those 10 million will live out in the sticks, it might be more accurate to have it on a region-by-region basis for a satisfactory comparison. Quote
Winchester White Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, mickbrown said: If you can’t staff it it all seems a bit pointless. I thought the medics from the armed forces would be helping out? Quote
mickbrown Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Winchester White said: I thought the medics from the armed forces would be helping out? That’s what I thought was happening. Quote
Escobarp Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, ProfessorWoland said: How could you answer though until we are out the other side of this? If there's a second, worse peak in November coinciding with flu season then that place may be full and instead of nurses if they can't press student nurses into action there'll be squaddies with 2 hours of training in attendance. On the data available massive expansion of available beds was the right course of action and it still may prove to be so. Is where I’m at as well. I was just canvassing spiders opinion as he I think is quite balanced. some on here will be screaming it’s a waste of money space etc yet would happily have had 50000 ventilators sat unused. But hence why I avoid conversing with or directing Questions at them. Quote
Spider Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Genuine question as I find you quite a reasoned individual (apart from on the don of course ) is this a waste of money and resources or was it the right thing to do in your opinion to open all these huge ancillary hospitals at huge cost to the tax payer which now at this moment appear overkill. Honestly, I’d rather the government had built a hospital that treated 41 people, than have those 41 people dying in a corridor. Im just relieved it’s not been needed. I’m sure some people will ty and rip into the government over it, but those people should be ignored. Plus, if there is a really bad second wave later in the year it may still be needed. Personally, I’m delighted it’s only needed to treat 41 people. If it was full, we’d be in lockdown until August. Its a massive positive for me. Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Spider said: Honestly, I’d rather the government had built a hospital that treated 41 people, than have those 41 people dying in a corridor. Im just relieved it’s not been needed. I’m sure some people will ty and rip into the government over it, but those people should be ignored. Plus, if there is a really bad second wave later in the year it may still be needed. Personally, I’m delighted it’s only needed to treat 41 people. If it was full, we’d be in lockdown until August. Its a massive positive for me. Presumably the sheer number of spare beds negates the need to be turning people from hospital/sign DNAR now? Quote
Rudy Posted April 25, 2020 Author Posted April 25, 2020 If they didn’t build it and people died because of a lack of beds the government would be ridiculed Quote
Escobarp Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Spider said: Honestly, I’d rather the government had built a hospital that treated 41 people, than have those 41 people dying in a corridor. Im just relieved it’s not been needed. I’m sure some people will ty and rip into the government over it, but those people should be ignored. Plus, if there is a really bad second wave later in the year it may still be needed. Personally, I’m delighted it’s only needed to treat 41 people. If it was full, we’d be in lockdown until August. Its a massive positive for me. Thanks mate yeah as eluded to above I’m in the same camp. I think we have reacted well and proactively in this case. Maybe not so well in some other aspects of this but think it’s showing possible lessons have already been learned hopefully. i for one am starting to feel more positive that we have this sort of under control as best we could hope for at the minute. Quote
ProfessorWoland Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) It's probably the aspect that's been best handled. Testing has been shambolic, Ppe patchy, but the construction of the nightingale hospitals has been impressive. having that surge capacity may also be a critical factor in allowing us to exit out of lockdown. Especially with the time lag between infections and hospital admissions. Edited April 25, 2020 by ProfessorWoland Quote
Escobarp Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, ProfessorWoland said: It's probably the aspect that's been best handled. Testing has been shambolic, Ppe patchy, but the construction of the nightingale hospitals has been impressive. Testing just appears riddled with problems. We have capacity to undertake the tests but I’m not sure we have the process for actually delivering them anywhere near. Why I’ve no idea as I don’t understand what’s involved. on another more worrying note. WHO have just announced there is no evidence that having the infection leads to immunity and thus stops reinfection. If this is true this really is a game changer for the worse Quote
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