They’ve just won at the form team, we’ve just been walloped by the out of form team.

0-2, Doyle & Isgrove

First 40 in control, then foul or not, shouldn’t let the lad cross to equalise.

never got going again after half time.

stupid foul for them to score second and the half just drifted.

should have won that game

Fairly sure it was Crawford who put in a half hearted tackle at our right back position,  missed the tackle so just walked away up the pitch allowing the walsall guy to cross unheeded

13 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Fairly sure it was Crawford who put in a half hearted tackle at our right back position,  missed the tackle so just walked away up the pitch allowing the walsall guy to cross unheeded

Crawford was one arrowed, it was a foul all day, shocking refereeing. 

15 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Fairly sure it was Crawford who put in a half hearted tackle at our right back position,  missed the tackle so just walked away up the pitch allowing the walsall guy to cross unheeded

I thought it was Doyle

52 minutes ago, marple whites said:

First 40 in control, then foul or not, shouldn’t let the lad cross to equalise

 

I dunno how you think we stop him crossing it

Its a shocking (non) decision

We get so many shocking decisions against us, that in our case they can’t possibly “even themselves out” as they say. I suppose some would say we’re just unlucky - Suspicious i’d say.

Edited December 13, 20205 yr by Burndens Bogs

8 hours ago, Casino said:

I dunno how you think we stop him crossing it

Its a shocking (non) decision

We had 2 men on their player right by the corner flag.  Surely one of them could /should have kicked it out ?

8 hours ago, Casino said:

I dunno how you think we stop him crossing it

Its a shocking (non) decision

Simple the ball should’ve been put out of play before for a throw in

15 hours ago, DazBob said:

Fred?

I like Eyre, he speaks well and knows his stuff... but at times feels like he's watching the game through massively BWFC tinted glasses. Despite him saying the exact opposite I never thought at any point we were in complete control of the game today.

He was ready to jump over the fence and take the Walsall bench on in IEs defence. 
 

I saw Fred a few times after dinner speaking. Usually with an ex United backroom bloke who’s name I can’t recall. (Fred was with him, not me) Very entertaining at times (Fred, not me).

10 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said:

I thought it was Doyle

Could’ve been. Either way, and whoever it was, they tried, they failed, they slinked away.

12 hours ago, Mr Grey said:

Fair point, but he's the manager and it's up to him to get the players to adapt, if he can't, he either gets the players in who can or he changes his way of playing/formation.

Yes. Pragmatism needed. Doesn’t mean you can't adhere to your footballing principles, but as he often says, you have to scrap a bit too and earn the right to start knocking it around.

When we played our football on the deck, they couldn’t live with us. At half time they were no doubt told to get more physical & rough us up a bit - it worked because our bunch of mardarses can’t cope with any physical stuff. Wallsall bullied us into a defeat.

10 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said:

I thought it was Doyle

It was Doyle. He needs to stay up top

Well he as a dilemma next he needs to sort this midfield out Crawford is shit and Thomason is not strong enough for defensive midfielder otherwise I only can see 1 result teams have sussed us out .

1 hour ago, Burndens Bogs said:

When we played our football on the deck, they couldn’t live with us. At half time they were no doubt told to get more physical & rough us up a bit - it worked because our bunch of mardarses can’t cope with any physical stuff. Wallsall bullied us into a defeat.

They were plenty physical in the first half

2 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said:

When we played our football on the deck, they couldn’t live with us. At half time they were no doubt told to get more physical & rough us up a bit - it worked because our bunch of mardarses can’t cope with any physical stuff. Wallsall bullied us into a defeat.

Sum's it up for me. With a stronger ref, they would have had 3 or4 booking their 1at goal would have been disallowed, we would have got at least a point. But we do need to toughen up.

Edited December 13, 20205 yr by waffer cup 07
Misspelling

2 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said:

When we played our football on the deck, they couldn’t live with us. At half time they were no doubt told to get more physical & rough us up a bit - it worked because our bunch of mardarses can’t cope with any physical stuff. Wallsall bullied us into a defeat.

Pretty decent summary. Most of our danger comes down the right. I think having an option on the left makes life so much easier for us. 
 

In Jan we need a leader in central midfield, a Karl Henry type of signing. A left wing back so we do not cut back every time and a keeper at least as back up. 

16 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Soz only just read that.  This is the 2nd one.

The other one I think is called " Abreath of Fred Eyre"

2 hours ago, Ani said:

Pretty decent summary. Most of our danger comes down the right. I think having an option on the left makes life so much easier for us. 
 

In Jan we need a leader in central midfield, a Karl Henry type of signing. A left wing back so we do not cut back every time and a keeper at least as back up. 

Not disagreeing, but I keep hearing we need a Karl Henry type.  We're in Div 2, I feel like they don't exist.  Spearing is probably the only one I can think of with my limited knowledge of this league, and (if he played) he's not stopped them conceding 8 goals in 2 games same as us. 

Comley was supposed to be a Karl Henry wasn't he?  At this level we've never heard of or seen these players so I don't know what the answer is, I'll settle for just signing a decent midfielder that has something about him.

34 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Not disagreeing, but I keep hearing we need a Karl Henry type.  We're in Div 2, I feel like they don't exist.  Spearing is probably the only one I can think of with my limited knowledge of this league, and (if he played) he's not stopped them conceding 8 goals in 2 games same as us. 

Comley was supposed to be a Karl Henry wasn't he?  At this level we've never heard of or seen these players so I don't know what the answer is, I'll settle for just signing a decent midfielder that has something about him.

An experienced head who can put his foot in should be available. Even in the games we were winning there were spells where it just needed the game breaking up and slowing down. We have a lot of effort but at times it just needs slowing down , buy a free-kick and disrupt the flow and provide some leadership. 

2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Not disagreeing, but I keep hearing we need a Karl Henry type.  We're in Div 2, I feel like they don't exist.  Spearing is probably the only one I can think of with my limited knowledge of this league, and (if he played) he's not stopped them conceding 8 goals in 2 games same as us. 

Comley was supposed to be a Karl Henry wasn't he?  At this level we've never heard of or seen these players so I don't know what the answer is, I'll settle for just signing a decent midfielder that has something about him.

of course they are around. Tutte wasnt wanted by Morecambe. If Evatt really wants that type they are out there. Does he really though? i have my doubts

32 minutes ago, snowball said:

of course they are around. Tutte wasnt wanted by Morecambe. If Evatt really wants that type they are out there. Does he really though? i have my doubts

Every top team has at least one ‘water carrier’ in the team. If Evatt doesn’t want that type, file under Coyle as failure

29 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

Every top team has at least one ‘water carrier’ in the team. If Evatt doesn’t want that type, file under Coyle as failure

Tutte has been playing well, and I wish he was still in the team, however, he is a journeyman lower division footballer so is he really the Messiah??

We still have a massive team, 3 centre Half's, a right wing back who is huge, a left wing back who is a defender, Sarce who can give a bit, and the Fonz up front. So to me getting out battled is not because of that one position, as critical as it is.

Tutte isn't a crunching midfielder in any case, he reads it well and gets himself in the right places, but I'm not sure obsessing about that position sorts out our deficiencies.

For me, the one player who would keep us up the pitch would be Crawford, he has an almost free role that most players would love, and he is so so bad it beggars belief, I just don't know why Evatt has taken so long to wise up to this? And the fact the little cunt seems to have an inflated opinion of his own ability just grates on me even more 

Edited December 13, 20205 yr by JimmyRiddle

20 minutes ago, JimmyRiddle said:

Tutte has been playing well, and I wish he was still in the team, however, he is a journeyman lower division footballer so is he really the Messiah??

We still have a massive team, 3 centre Half's, a right wing back who is huge, a left wing back who is a defender, Sarce who can give a bit, and the Fonz up front. So to me getting out battled is not because of that one position, as critical as it is.

Tutte isn't a crunching midfielder in any case, he reads it well and gets himself in the right places, but I'm not sure obsessing about that position sorts out our deficiencies.

For me, the one player who would keep us up the pitch would be Crawford, he has an almost free role that most players would love, and he is so so bad it beggars belief, I just don't know why Evatt has taken so long to wise up to this? And the fact the little cunt seems to have an inflated opinion of his own ability just grates on me even more 

Intetesting the opposition commentators didnt think they were bullying us. Constantly crying over Santos , Delaney (should have been sent off 2nd half according to them) Sarcevic mixing it up . Doyle and Fonz battling away.

For me Crawford lightweight and never a No10. Sarce should be there but we need more steel in that midfield

9 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said:

When we played our football on the deck, they couldn’t live with us. At half time they were no doubt told to get more physical & rough us up a bit - it worked because our bunch of mardarses can’t cope with any physical stuff. Wallsall bullied us into a defeat.

Spot on that ‘oh smelly one’ - Vale did it to us last week and now Walsall - we need to toughen up and quick time.

I remember us being a bit soft under Nelly and Rioch sorted it and then again under Toddy and Fat Sam sorted that. I hope Evatt can sort this before we need to get someone else in to do it for him..