It’s kicking off

Russian police arrest over 1000 protesters

Alexei Navalny, has been poisoned and arrested and still had this documentary released 

His wife has been arrested as well. 

Some serious minerals on this chap 

Edited February 27, 20224 yr by Rudy

I don't think modern day tech has a young lad operating it or can be compared in any way to the hardware then, my kettle has more processing power than our navy had in 1982.

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Every time I see a Russian tank taken out I see it as 5 less rapists, murderers and looters. War is hell but the Ukrainians didn’t start it.

Understood. Troops need strong leadership and that has been lacking from the Russians.

My old dad was in the tanks and linked up with Russians outside Berlin and couldn't believe their drinking and barbarism, it appears they are still in 1944.

I still maintain the Georgian & then Ukrainian leaders pulled on the Bear's tail in full knowledge of what could happen, fully expecting Uncle Sam to help them out.

 

4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

You’re saying NATO territory as if NATO is some sort of Colonial organisation. It was formed to protect. No country was or are forced to join. They wanted to join to protect them from mainly Russian aggression but also other possible aggressor’s. 

I believe that's how the Russians see it, and possibly the Yanks

Just now, Dimron said:

I believe that's how the Russians see it, and possibly the Yanks

Definitely the Russians. Not sure about the U.S. but I get your point.

4 minutes ago, Carlos said:

I don't think modern day tech has a young lad operating it or can be compared in any way to the hardware then, my kettle has more processing power than our navy had in 1982.

If the Officer in charge doesn't encourage the young lad to speak out then no matter what tech he has means nowt. I understand Sam Salt adopted a regime of fear, someone once told me if anyone was going to lose his ship...

Bring on Artificial Intelligence, let the drones do the warfare

It may have gone unnoticed to some on here but a Bolton born a bred journalist interviewed Volodymyr Zelenskyy today. 

Clive Myrie. Take a bow. 

5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

It may have gone unnoticed to some on here but a Bolton born a bred journalist interviewed Volodymyr Zelenskyy today. 

Clive Myrie. Take a bow. 

Old Haywardian

Citeh though

8 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Old Haywardian

Citeh though

Correct. Shouldn’t hold the shitty city tag against him though, could have been a red. That would be unforgivable.😊

 

I don’t know enough about military hardware to comment , but I’m pretty sure Putin did not see this invasion being such a fuck up.

He’s lost a pretty key part of his armoury today. The more he loses, the more likely he is to go rogue, I suspect.

It could be a hollow victory.

He needs taking out soon. Fingers crossed

1 minute ago, Spider said:

I don’t know enough about military hardware to comment , but I’m pretty sure Putin did not see this invasion being such a fuck up.

He’s lost a pretty key part of his armoury today. The more he loses, the more likely he is to go rogue, I suspect.

It could be a hollow victory.

He needs taking out soon. Fingers crossed

Was that his main one? Or only one?

5 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Was that his main one? Or only one?

Russia’s navy isn’t as big as he’d like, they’ve never really had enough deep water(warm) ports to build one. They’ve relied on subs.

To lose a flagship unit is embarrassing. Especially if it is just a fire - might be less shameful if it has been taken out by Ukraine.

In either case, it’s a proper kick in the balls. How he reacts now is anyones guess.

The importance of the loss shouldn’t be ignored. The fact that the Ukraines were able to do this is immense.

1. How stupid are the Russians to think that Ukraine didn’t have the capability to do this and put the ship in a position to be targeted.

2. The Russians will now wonder what Ukraine’s capabilities really are.

A serious turning point in the war. 

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Russia’s navy isn’t as big as he’d like, they’ve never really had enough deep water(warm) ports to build one. They’ve relied on subs.

To lose a flagship unit is embarrassing. Especially if it is just a fire - might be less shameful if it has been taken out by Ukraine.

In either case, it’s a proper kick in the balls. How he reacts now is anyones guess.

It wasn’t a fire. It was taken out by two   Ukraine Neptune missiles.

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

It wasn’t a fire. It was taken out by two   Ukraine Neptune missiles.

That’s the story I believe, and almost certainly the truth. But in Russia, they tell their own “truth”

Not sure losing your main battleship to incompetence is any better a spin than being taken out by Ukraine.

Either way, it’s a shit choice for Team Putin

11 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The importance of the loss shouldn’t be ignored. The fact that the Ukraines were able to do this is immense.

1. How stupid are the Russians to think that Ukraine didn’t have the capability to do this and put the ship in a position to be targeted.

2. The Russians will now wonder what Ukraine’s capabilities really are.

A serious turning point in the war. 

Reckon it was done using imported/donated weaponry?

Just now, gonzo said:

Reckon it was done using imported/donated weaponry?

The reports last night, which so far have been accurate say that it was Ukrainian made Neptune missiles. Ironically, the ship was also built in the Ukraine.

31 minutes ago, Spider said:

I don’t know enough about military hardware to comment , but I’m pretty sure Putin did not see this invasion being such a fuck up.

He’s lost a pretty key part of his armoury today. The more he loses, the more likely he is to go rogue, I suspect.

 

He needs to stop fucking about and drop a mini nuke or some chemicals if he wants to win

21 minutes ago, Spider said:

Russia’s navy isn’t as big as he’d like, they’ve never really had enough deep water(warm) ports to build one. They’ve relied on subs.

To lose a flagship unit is embarrassing. Especially if it is just a fire - might be less shameful if it has been taken out by Ukraine.

In either case, it’s a proper kick in the balls. How he reacts now is anyones guess.

All going to stack up on May 9th

Russia will go for victory in Donbas and Ukraine will want to kick them out.

East vs West

6 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The reports last night, which so far have been accurate say that it was Ukrainian made Neptune missiles. Ironically, the ship was also built in the Ukraine.

An old ship like that is a good target for a simple missile attack

 

2 minutes ago, Dimron said:

An old ship like that is a good target for a simple missile attack

😊

It was their flagship, it was there to protect other ships in the offensive, it had multiple anti missile defences, it was the best of the best of Russia’s fleet. It was taken out, sunk by fairly ‘simple’ missiles. It should never have been in range of these simple missiles. 
The Russians are not very good really.

This Ukrainian stamp was unveiled yesterday. The same ship that is now at the bottom of the Black Sea. Coincidence?

 

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

😊

It was their flagship, it was there to protect other ships in the offensive, it had multiple anti missile defences, it was the best of the best of Russia’s fleet. It was taken out, sunk by fairly ‘simple’ missiles. It should never have been in range of these simple missiles. 
The Russians are not very good really.

it seems the navy is as bad as the army

1 minute ago, tyldesley_white said:

it seems the navy is as bad as the army

I’m guessing that the info from Moscow that both the land and sea forces are getting is shite.