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Meanwhile in Ukraine

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2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Recorded on a phone, probably a Samsung.

#iphonewanker

I doubt the phone makes a difference

I have an Oppo 😏

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    Its appeasement, that's all it is, and more people will end up dying in the longer term if you essentially capitulate to agressors. These aren't peace deals in the slightest.

  • We’ve reached a point where folk are so entrenched in their support for trump that they’ll side with Putin if it means not losing face on the socials. Thats where we are now. its ok

  • That Vance is a bigger cunt than Trump 

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Interesting article in Politico which says Europe is accusing the USA of excess profiteering from the war in Ukraine by subsidising American businesses so they can take market share from European companies, selling more weapons and selling gas to Europe at 4 times the price they are selling it in the USA.

Not that they haven't always profited from war when you think about the countries they've bombed the shit out of and then cleaned up on infrastructure rebuilding contracts - the more they bomb and destroy, the more work they pick up. No wonder they've been so slow at providing the Ukrainians with proper air defences.

5 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Interesting article in Politico which says Europe is accusing the USA of excess profiteering from the war in Ukraine by subsidising American businesses so they can take market share from European companies, selling more weapons and selling gas to Europe at 4 times the price they are selling it in the USA.

Not that they haven't always profited from war when you think about the countries they've bombed the shit out of and then cleaned up on infrastructure rebuilding contracts - the more they bomb and destroy, the more work they pick up. No wonder they've been so slow at providing the Ukrainians with proper air defences.

They rinsed us in WW2

Just now, mickbrown said:

They rinsed us in WW2

"Everywhere they go....."🎵

War is always about the rebuilding and the money it generates.

the UK will do well out of it when everything subsides. 

15 minutes ago, Spider said:

War is always about the rebuilding and the money it generates.

the UK will do well out of it when everything subsides

Indeed, as I've said further back in the thread - we're not just chucking financial and military aide at them for no reason - we know (or hope) that we'll get payback as and when this is all over (hopefully, with full and primary access to their lithium reserves)

My mate is a contactor (currently working on the Neon Project in Saudi) his firm have already tendered for the rebuild of Ukraine.

Same firm oversaw Afghanistan and Iraq...

Long term, lithium requirements won't be as high as first anticipated. 

Loads if research and developments of new (and old) technologies that will use more readily available materials.

Recycling will also help keep lithium available. 

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Long term, lithium requirements won't be as high as first anticipated

Loads if research and developments of new (and old) technologies that will use more readily available materials.

Recycling will also help keep lithium available. 

They won't long term, but for the next 10 or 15 years they will be

Anyway, the whole EV market in the UK is a bit fucked at the minute - I've just received a new report this morning, and it's not looking good for the next couple of years, judging by the figures I'm currently looking at, and also by feedback from the EV Charger manufacturing companies........the good news is that it's predicted to pick up again by 2027, when they expect that 50% of all new car sales will be EV and/or hybrid (at present, it's just dipped to under 15%, down from 25% only a year ago

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

He won't like it, but it's merely an affirmation of support. 

The can't join as things stand as it breaks nato's own rules.

Exactly.

He knows Ukraine won't be joining NATO (or the EU) for a very long time, if ever.

Can someone summarise why...

Fanx

10 hours ago, gonzo said:

Can someone summarise why...

Fanx

Why Ukraine can't join nato?

The rules prevent any nation "in dispute" from joining. Obviously more complex than that, but it is an obvious position to take.

At the end of all this, Zelensky et al may look to improve democracy further and tackle corruption in order to get in but I'm sure nato and Western governments will be guiding them on that.

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why Ukraine can't join nato?

The rules prevent any nation "in dispute" from joining. Obviously more complex than that, but it is an obvious position to take.

At the end of all this, Zelensky et al may look to improve democracy further and tackle corruption in order to get in but I'm sure nato and Western governments will be guiding them on that.

So if “in dispute” was a rule, is it possible that this whole war thing is specifically designed by Putin to stop them joining NATO by creating an event to stop them?

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1 hour ago, MickyD said:

So if “in dispute” was a rule, is it possible that this whole war thing is specifically designed by Putin to stop them joining NATO by creating an event to stop them?

Whether or not that was his thinking we'll never know, but he sure as hell didn't want the expansion of NATO - however his war has had the opposite effect with countries like Finland now expressing a desire to join.

3 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Whether or not that was his thinking we'll never know, but he sure as hell didn't want the expansion of NATO - however his war has had the opposite effect with countries like Finland now expressing a desire to join.

Aye.

Don't think Ukraine was in the market for joining neither beforehand. Especially when we consider the agreement that was signed to protect Ukraine for giving up its nuclear weapons.

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye.

Don't think Ukraine was in the market for joining neither beforehand. Especially when we consider the agreement that was signed to protect Ukraine for giving up its nuclear weapons.

Sweden and Turkey are also now up for joining since the war began. If it was Putin's strategy, it's backfired big time.

4 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Sweden and Turkey are also now up for joining since the war began. If it was Putin's strategy, it's backfired big time.

Turkey are already members of NATO.

They are the ones currently blocking Sweden and Finland's accession.

17 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Turkey are already members of NATO.

They are the ones currently blocking Sweden and Finland's accession.

I was going to say that Turkey have been a member of Nato for years, probably 50 year or more I reckon. I think they've also got a larger amount of troops (other than the US) than any other NATO member.

This is what prime time tv is like in Russia. There’s many more. 
 

 

 

11 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

This is what prime time tv is like in Russia. There’s many more. 
 

 

 

Why are russians obsessed with bummers and/or bumming folk?

6 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Why are russians obsessed with bummers and/or bumming folk?

I’ve always thought that people obsessed with something have something to hide. 😊

 

On 25/11/2022 at 13:05, Sweep said:

They won't long term, but for the next 10 or 15 years they will be

Anyway, the whole EV market in the UK is a bit fucked at the minute - I've just received a new report this morning, and it's not looking good for the next couple of years, judging by the figures I'm currently looking at, and also by feedback from the EV Charger manufacturing companies........the good news is that it's predicted to pick up again by 2027, when they expect that 50% of all new car sales will be EV and/or hybrid (at present, it's just dipped to under 15%, down from 25% only a year ago

Saw this outfit on sky business news last week, looks amazing, is it possible these will kill electric charged vechiles?

 

https://www.metalectrique.com/our-technology

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