the last shooting / things that go on in America thread has definitely dissappeared

anyway

not the "happy ending" you would have expected

https://twitter.com/i/events/1371972779893944327

Suspect arrested after eight people, including six Asian women, were killed at Atlanta-area spas

Eight people, including six Asian women, were killed in shootings at three different businesses in Atlanta and Acworth, Georgia, on Tuesday, according to local police. A male suspect was arrested and charged with several counts of murder on Wednesday, police said. At a press conference in Atlanta on Wednesday, authorities identified the four victims killed in Cherokee County.

 

10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

He pissed around with climate stuff in his first term.

Over threw environmental protections in areas of wilderness for mineral extraction. 

Joe reinstated them.

Presumably, he'll go back on them.

Daft.

Nowt like a long term plan eh? 🙄

16 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Nowt like a long term plan eh? 🙄

Biden's infrastructure renewal project is something we won't row back on as it's going to help hugely in many of Trump's key areas. In 10/5 years the US will be benefiting hugely from it.

Sadly, people don't like long term boring political policy solutions in the West at the moment. 

10 hours ago, Bertie said:

Don’t you worry about me pal - I’m here for the duration 👍. I’ll brighten your day up every now and then 🫣.  Just looking forwards to Day 2 and what comedy gold gems Trump and his global elites come up with today🤡! Makes life worth living…..

No you won't. 

 Amusing to see the usual suspects ridiculing. No different to Brexit.

Get used to it chums. After common sense has returned I look forward to the retribution stage which Biden has foreseen hence his advanced pardons. Bent as fuck.

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 Amusing to see the usual suspects ridiculing. No different to Brexit.

Get used to it chums. After common sense has returned I look forward to the retribution stage which Biden has foreseen hence his advanced pardons. Bent as fuck.

Who doesn’t want world peace.

We know he’ll keep his promises hence the excitement around the globe.

He doesn’t like Spain does he?

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 Amusing to see the usual suspects ridiculing. No different to Brexit.

Get used to it chums. After common sense has disappeared I look forward to the petty retribution stage which Biden has foreseen hence his advanced pardons. Trump’s Bent as fuck.

Fixed it.

give pardons to every cunt in the Capitol Riot 

one guy was inside for 22 years 

out you come 

12 minutes ago, little whitt said:

give pardons to every cunt in the Capitol Riot 

one guy was inside for 22 years 

out you come 

Made me laugh when he said Biden had pardoned criminals, including in his own family.

Whilst correct, the inference that his lot weren't is pathetic.

Both as bad as each other.

It's a different political system and culture over there though.

Must admit don’t know enough about the US political system, and the way the three branches of government are supposed to keep everything in check….but agree seems cleared flawed and all too easy abused - by any one party.  The founding fathers will be turning over in their graves how all the power has ended up in the (tiny) hands of a convicted felon and unelected billionaires.
At least it couldn’t happen over here 😳

The nutter has pardoned the creator of Silk Road as well as nearly 1600 people from the Capitol riots.

It's going to be a mad 4 years.

56 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

The nutter has pardoned the creator of Silk Road as well as nearly 1600 people from the Capitol riots.

It's going to be a mad 4 years.

And proud boys leader and some other one

All this does is vindicate them and their followers 

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

The nutter has pardoned the creator of Silk Road as well as nearly 1600 people from the Capitol riots.

It's going to be a mad 4 years.

Kinell, Has he?

He was putting out hits and all sorts 

American Kingpin is a cracking book about him and silk road

 

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Made me laugh when he said Biden had pardoned criminals, including in his own family.

Whilst correct, the inference that his lot weren't is pathetic.

Both as bad as each other.

It's a different political system and culture over there though.

Well, the pardons for family were because Trump said he was going to.go after them. So it was more to protect innocent people rather than freeing people who have been convicted.

The legislature is completely separate from the executive and the judiciary- it's the core of our political system. The division of the branches (we also had this before Brexit - since the constitutional reform act of 2005 - it's like we were a sovereign nation, and have been since 1689, who knew, eh?) 

They have the same three branches in the US. The difference is the the president can pardon people but it is still subject to constitutional constraints (despite what Trump.says about this) but unlike the UK constraints can be ignored if those in the executive branch feel it's not in their best interests to stop this.

So.its rather good we have the HoC.

 

 

This is an excellent listen in terms of putting Trump's election win and coverage in context - both political and historical 

 

 

3 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

Kinell, Has he?

He was putting out hits and all sorts 

American Kingpin is a cracking book about him and silk road

 

The Dread Pirate Roberts? 

He deserves pardoning just for the cultural reference point! 😁

4 minutes ago, kent_white said:

The Dread Pirate Roberts? 

He deserves pardoning just for the cultural reference point! 😁

That's the one!

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Well, the pardons for family were because Trump said he was going to.go after them. So it was more to protect innocent people rather than freeing people who have been convicted.

The legislature is completely separate from the executive and the judiciary- it's the core of our political system. The division of the branches (we also had this before Brexit - since the constitutional reform act of 2005 - it's like we were a sovereign nation, and have been since 1689, who knew, eh?) 

They have the same three branches in the US. The difference is the the president can pardon people but it is still subject to constitutional constraints (despite what Trump.says about this) but unlike the UK constraints can be ignored if those in the executive branch feel it's not in their best interests to stop this.

So.its rather good we have the HoC.

 

 

Was his son not convicted of anything then?

If not, how can he be pardoned in the first place?

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Was his son not convicted of anything then?

If not, how can he be pardoned in the first place?

I was referring to the pardons on inauguration day - which you should look at and the reasons before you say its all the same, because it just isn't and needs to be called out as such or else people blythly believe this rubbish.

6 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

I was referring to the pardons on inauguration day - which you should look at and the reasons before you say its all the same, because it just isn't and needs to be called out as such or else people blythly believe this rubbish.

They’re really not as ‘bad as each other’.

Imagine looking through today’s pardons & still coming out with that.

Some proper vermin released from prison today. Imagine the uproar if it was loads of Islamists. 

6 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

I was referring to the pardons on inauguration day - which you should look at and the reasons before you say its all the same, because it just isn't and needs to be called out as such or else people blythly believe this rubbish.

Yeah but that involves reading beyond a headline and who wants to do that?

booooorrrring

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

Yeah but that involves reading beyond a headline and who wants to do that?

booooorrrring

Which is fine but some like to think they know it all like some boorish Yorkshireman.

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Yeah but that involves reading beyond a headline and who wants to do that?

booooorrrring

He did refer to pardons of family members in the first sentence of the post, to be fair, and Hunter Biden was convicted

But without a doubt Trump pardoning the January 6 prisoners is an absolute fucking nonsense 

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

He did refer to pardons of family members in the first sentence of the post, to be fair, and Hunter Biden was convicted

But without a doubt Trump pardoning the January 6 prisoners is an absolute fucking nonsense 

It is, but he was always going to do it.

As for Biden, well he’s just gone and played the game.

its a fucked up system.

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

He did refer to pardons of family members in the first sentence of the post, to be fair, and Hunter Biden was convicted

But without a doubt Trump pardoning the January 6 prisoners is an absolute fucking nonsense 

Ran on getting violent people off the street by putting 1500 violent people on the street

When did all this pardon nonsense really kick off then?