the last shooting / things that go on in America thread has definitely dissappeared

anyway

not the "happy ending" you would have expected

https://twitter.com/i/events/1371972779893944327

Suspect arrested after eight people, including six Asian women, were killed at Atlanta-area spas

Eight people, including six Asian women, were killed in shootings at three different businesses in Atlanta and Acworth, Georgia, on Tuesday, according to local police. A male suspect was arrested and charged with several counts of murder on Wednesday, police said. At a press conference in Atlanta on Wednesday, authorities identified the four victims killed in Cherokee County.

 

1 minute ago, Winchester White said:

When did all this pardon nonsense really kick off then? 

I think president have always had the power, but its normal used in the dieing embers of an administration

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

It is, but he was always going to do it.

As for Biden, well he’s just gone and played the game.

its a fucked up system.

It really is a mental thing that it's an option

I reckon some poor cunt over there's had to explain to Trump that he can't pardon our Tommeh

When we went to Florida last Dec we had an English driver take us to Universal and Walmart etc who was recommended on Facebook and TripAdvisor etc. Hes lived there 29 years and loves it but had to adapt.

He said everyone is very insular there and they pretty much watch local news only in the main if at all.  They mostly have zero interest outside their state never mind the wider country or world.

Which makes sense to me in a way, if you live the other side of the world to issues that do not direct impact your day to day life then it is a simple way of living.

If only life was as simple as such

 

I've just read about a woman named Pamela Hemphill who's refused a pardon because she admits what she did at Capitol Hill was wrong

Fair play to her

9 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I've just read about a woman named Pamela Hemphill who's refused a pardon because she admits what she did at Capitol Hill was wrong

Fair play to her

She was one of those “violent” offenders 

 

23 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

When we went to Florida last Dec we had an English driver take us to Universal and Walmart etc who was recommended on Facebook and TripAdvisor etc. Hes lived there 29 years and loves it but had to adapt.

He said everyone is very insular there and they pretty much watch local news only in the main if at all.  They mostly have zero interest outside their state never mind the wider country or world.

Which makes sense to me in a way, if you live the other side of the world to issues that do not direct impact your day to day life then it is a simple way of living.

If only life was as simple as such

 

That must be peculiar to Florida, because its not what I found by living here, and by that I mean Washington State and Texas, and working in a few others

14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I've just read about a woman named Pamela Hemphill who's refused a pardon because she admits what she did at Capitol Hill was wrong

Fair play to her

She was not in prison, and I dont think she likes him 

55 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

Ran on getting violent people off the street by putting 1500 violent people on the street

How many were already free? 

10 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

That must be peculiar to Florida, because its not what I found by living here, and by that I mean Washington State and Texas, and working in a few others

It could well be mate and lets be honest it is just my experience of one blokes experience in Florida.

M

1 minute ago, tyldesley_white said:

She was not in prison, and I dont think she likes him 

Not anymore, but she still has a conviction which presumably causes her some issues in life

What an interview 😂

 

 

15 hours ago, Bertie said:

Fixed it.

I forgot to press the 'ignore' button. Done.

Isn’t it funny how extreme right wingers don’t like being pulled up on facts and truth, and anyone who counters their alternative reality. Usually results in two eventual responses - either abuse or ignoring what they don’t like to hear. Toodlepip 👍.

10 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

He did refer to pardons of family members in the first sentence of the post, to be fair, and Hunter Biden was convicted

But without a doubt Trump pardoning the January 6 prisoners is an absolute fucking nonsense 

But again that's being selective with the post Aldo. It was the sweeping, they are all the same and yes it was done for family members for the reasons as I said earlier.

It's important these are defined otherwise people just fall into the it's the game or it's all the same rubbish which diminishes what Trump has actually done with his pardons in legitimising anti democratic violence it emboldens the worst parts of society to crank up their rhetoric, which has already been seen in some.parts of the states. The two things are not unreleased and we shouldn't diminish them like frogs in boiling water.

Edited January 23, 20251 yr by Not in Crawley

52 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

But again that's being selective with the post Aldo. It was the sweeping, they are all the same and yes it was done for family members for the reasons as I said earlier.

It's important these are defined otherwise people just fall into the it's the game or it's all the same rubbish which diminishes what Trump has actually done with his pardons in legitimising anti democratic violence it emboldens the worst parts of society to crank up their rhetoric, which has already been seen in some.parts of the states. The two things are not unreleased and we shouldn't diminish them like frogs in boiling water.

I've got no issue with the defining of the difference between the pardons

But you posted that Biden had pardoned family members "which were more to protect innocent people" so it was fair enough for @Tonge moor green jacket to point out that, in fact, one of Biden's pardoned family members was at least guilty of some of the charges against him

That's all

2 hours ago, Bertie said:

Isn’t it funny how extreme right wingers don’t like being pulled up on facts and truth, and anyone who counters their alternative reality. Usually results in two eventual responses - either abuse or ignoring what they don’t like to hear. Toodlepip 👍.

Bolty is not extreme right wing by any stretch of the imagination.

Watching Trump sign these is mad. It's full parody 

 

 

 

Edited January 23, 20251 yr by gonzo

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Watching Trump sign these is mad. It's full parody 

 

 

 

What is bonkers is a president trying to put in place what he said he would do and what the majority of American voters voted for. Be nice to see the same here.

Edited January 23, 20251 yr by royal white

45 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Bolty is not extreme right wing by any stretch of the imagination.

Fair enough - apologies therefore (if it causes him offence, although somehow I doubt it!).  Was just going off the content of the posts.  I know you guys all know each other, which I don’t. If it gives him comfort I voted for Brexit too…..and would do so again today.  Something in common perhaps 😂.

Edited January 23, 20251 yr by Bertie

13 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Fair enough - apologies therefore (if it causes him offence, although somehow I doubt it!).  Was just going off the content of the posts.  I know you guys all know each other, which I don’t. If it gives him comfort I voted for Brexit too…..and would do so again today.  Something in common perhaps 😂.

You did complain about abuse and then accused him of being ‘ extreme right’

It’s a common theme. What has he said that gives you this impression of him?

3 hours ago, Bertie said:

Isn’t it funny how extreme right wingers don’t like being pulled up on facts and truth, and anyone who counters their alternative reality. Usually results in two eventual responses - either abuse or ignoring what they don’t like to hear. Toodlepip 👍.

Bolty isn't extreme right at all, he's "right leaning" I think it's safe to say. It's very easy these days to accuse people of being extreme one way or the other, when in reality most of us are just one or two degrees left or right of the centre ground

And a response of "abuse" (usually in jest of course) is much practiced, appreciated and loved on here, and to be fair Bolty does come in for his fair share of that....of which it's probably also safe to say he's clever enough to see the reactions coming a mile off, when he posts something 🙂

Generally if he has you on ignore, it's because he thinks you're either demented, being argumentative for the sake of it or simply a dick, he's generally happy to joust with those who he knows have some level of intelligence/humour (I think)

Anyway, that's enough of being nice to him, the trifle scoffing, flip-flop wearing, hairdryer riding extreme right neo-nazi

I think Bolty would be very happy to be classed as right wing. It isn’t a crime. Far right and now it seems, extreme right wing accusations has become commonplace amongst Marxist, Stalinist, Communist left wing types. 

 

6 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I think Bolty would be very happy to be classed as right wing. It isn’t a crime. Far right and now it seems, extreme right wing accusations has become commonplace amongst Marxist, Stalinist, Communist left wing types. 

 

I'm guessing that was ironic?

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

I'm guessing that was ironic?

Isn’t it. 👍
 

59 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Bolty isn't extreme right at all, he's "right leaning" I think it's safe to say. It's very easy these days to accuse people of being extreme one way or the other, when in reality most of us are just one or two degrees left or right of the centre ground

And a response of "abuse" (usually in jest of course) is much practiced, appreciated and loved on here, and to be fair Bolty does come in for his fair share of that....of which it's probably also safe to say he's clever enough to see the reactions coming a mile off, when he posts something 🙂

Generally if he has you on ignore, it's because he thinks you're either demented, being argumentative for the sake of it or simply a dick, he's generally happy to joust with those who he knows have some level of intelligence/humour (I think)

Anyway, that's enough of being nice to him, the trifle scoffing, flip-flop wearing, hairdryer riding extreme right neo-nazi

All 3 for the majority he has on ignore