Site Supporter only1swanny Posted October 27 Site Supporter Posted October 27 11 minutes ago, Zico said: So long as you know what you're doing and why you're doing it, then it shouldn't be an issue if you reuse code or get AI to help It saves me loads of time You've still got to learn the basics and have an aptitude for it, without that you don't get far So long as those people keep coming through all good And I'm sure they will Gcse and a level is now more basics of how they interact, referencing libraries etc, But they kids have to hand write codes, There isn't much practice of adapting other people's code. Quote
Moderators Zico Posted October 27 Moderators Posted October 27 28 minutes ago, only1swanny said: Gcse and a level is now more basics of how they interact, referencing libraries etc, But they kids have to hand write codes, There isn't much practice of adapting other people's code. No, I wouldn't have thought so That would come with real life experience when you actually want to build something Whether as a personal project or as a paid professional Like most GCSEs and A Levels, they'll only really teach you the fundamentals to get you on the right path Even my degree only taught me bog standard basics across a few languages You learn on the job Quote
Dimron Posted October 27 Posted October 27 2 hours ago, Zico said: So long as you know what you're doing and why you're doing it, then it shouldn't be an issue if you reuse code or get AI to help It saves me loads of time You've still got to learn the basics and have an aptitude for it, without that you don't get far So long as those people keep coming through all good And I'm sure they will As long as we don't get the fkkrs who coded the 737 Max! 🙂 Quote
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted October 27 Members Posted October 27 I see we have pro-Palestinian "protests" outside a Jewish cultural centre in Finchley Road today But it's alright, the Met are dealing with it* *Idly standing by and allowing it to happen Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 27 Site Supporter Posted October 27 4 hours ago, Zico said: So long as you know what you're doing and why you're doing it, then it shouldn't be an issue if you reuse code or get AI to help It saves me loads of time You've still got to learn the basics and have an aptitude for it, without that you don't get far So long as those people keep coming through all good And I'm sure they will Isn't there potential for everyone to end up using such such stuff, and no longer having anyone understanding the very basic bits? Machines ultimately doing stuff that no fucker understands. I admire your confidence, but it still concerns me. Be a shame if people end up having virtual sex, and using artificial insemination for reproduction! 😁 Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 27 Site Supporter Posted October 27 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Isn't there potential for everyone to end up using such such stuff, and no longer having anyone understanding the very basic bits? Machines ultimately doing stuff that no fucker understands. I admire your confidence, but it still concerns me. Be a shame if people end up having virtual sex, and using artificial insemination for reproduction! 😁 Wouldn't worry about it if I were you. It's a couple of decades away at least. Quote
Dimron Posted October 27 Posted October 27 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Isn't there potential for everyone to end up using such such stuff, and no longer having anyone understanding the very basic bits? Machines ultimately doing stuff that no fucker understands. I admire your confidence, but it still concerns me. Be a shame if people end up having virtual sex, and using artificial insemination for reproduction! 😁 Nail On the Head I had the same conversation with out IT bloke at work after an "upgrade" that didn't go well. Silicon chips made in Taiwan with all sorts of trade secrets and programmes written in Silicon Valley. I wasn't criticising him personally but it was so evident he was carrying out work-arounds to make things work. Personally I am one of those people who need to know how things work, i will even take it apart to understand it... modern cars particularly do my head in... car doesn't start on a cold foggy morning? I can usually get it going without a lap top because I know what is happening. Quote
Moderators Zico Posted October 28 Moderators Posted October 28 18 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Isn't there potential for everyone to end up using such such stuff, and no longer having anyone understanding the very basic bits? Machines ultimately doing stuff that no fucker understands. I admire your confidence, but it still concerns me. Be a shame if people end up having virtual sex, and using artificial insemination for reproduction! 😁 First bit, yes, but you'll still need experts to do the more complex stuff You can build a website using AI now if you want But it'll be basic, you won't be building amazon or ebay etc Further down the line AI will be able to do the more complex stuff But it will still only do what it's trained to do and programmed to do The idea of it ever becoming sentient and doing its own thing, which is what I think most folk fear, is in the realm of sci fi for me If AI does something bad, it's because a human told it to or because of human error Which is why it needs regulating to a degree Certainly now and for the foreseeable anyway Imo But it's evolving at a rapid rate Ask me again in ten years Maybe 5 Quote
deeane Koontz Posted November 6 Posted November 6 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqj07jdzzgno Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 6 Site Supporter Posted November 6 On 28/10/2024 at 09:58, Zico said: First bit, yes, but you'll still need experts to do the more complex stuff You can build a website using AI now if you want But it'll be basic, you won't be building amazon or ebay etc Further down the line AI will be able to do the more complex stuff But it will still only do what it's trained to do and programmed to do The idea of it ever becoming sentient and doing its own thing, which is what I think most folk fear, is in the realm of sci fi for me If AI does something bad, it's because a human told it to or because of human error Which is why it needs regulating to a degree Certainly now and for the foreseeable anyway Imo But it's evolving at a rapid rate Ask me again in ten years Maybe 5 Isn't the point of AI that it learns as it goes along? On that basis, is it able to change its own "rules"? Quote
Moderators Zico Posted November 6 Moderators Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Isn't the point of AI that it learns as it goes along? On that basis, is it able to change its own "rules"? the first sentance, yes the second, not really, not of the context of what it's been programmed to do humansll set it on it's path and feed it data to do what it needs to do it also really depends on what you think it could do that is so possibly bad, off it's own back if you program AI to do somehting like controling the flood barriers on a river depending on currennt levels and a weather forecast, it's not going to a) decide to let the river flood because it has decided to go rogue as it doesn't like humans anymore b) program itself to hack into the pentagon and fire nukes at russia c) start a robot uprising like in The Terminator so what is your concern of what it might do? Quote
deeane Koontz Posted November 8 Posted November 8 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo Quote
kent_white Posted November 8 Posted November 8 2 hours ago, deeane Koontz said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo Deplorable. But not a surprise, sadly. "44% of verified victims were children and 26% women. The ages most represented among the dead were five to nine-year-olds" My son is 9. I can't even begin to comprehend it. Quote
athywhite1958 Posted November 8 Posted November 8 A lot of trouble in Amsterdam last night as pro Palestine folks targeted Maccabi Tel Aviv fans who were there to watch their game with Ajax Quote
Moderators Zico Posted November 8 Moderators Posted November 8 2 hours ago, deeane Koontz said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo Mostly killed on the school run Quote
wanderer1984 Posted November 8 Author Posted November 8 7 minutes ago, Zico said: Mostly killed on the school run Schools still open? Quote
wanderer1984 Posted November 8 Author Posted November 8 8 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: A lot of trouble in Amsterdam last night as pro Palestine folks targeted Maccabi Tel Aviv fans who were there to watch their game with Ajax It's IsLaMaPhObIA month apparently ... Show some respect. Quote
London Wanderer Posted November 8 Posted November 8 9 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Schools still open? 6 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: It's IsLaMaPhObIA month apparently ... Show some respect. You okay pal ? Quote
wanderer1984 Posted November 8 Author Posted November 8 4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: You okay pal ? Aye mate ... Had a great week 👍🏻 You? Quote
Moderators Zico Posted November 8 Moderators Posted November 8 23 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Schools still open? I assume so as it was suggested on here if you want to protect your kids from rockets targeted at terrorists hiding in schools, you'd keep them at home Quote
royal white Posted November 8 Posted November 8 28 minutes ago, Zico said: I assume so as it was suggested on here if you want to protect your kids from rockets targeted at terrorists hiding in schools, you'd keep them at home Hardly rocket science is it. Quote
BobyBrno Posted November 8 Posted November 8 I assumed that the schools were not being used as schools anymore. Quote
Moderators Zico Posted November 8 Moderators Posted November 8 5 minutes ago, royal white said: Hardly rocket science is it. If Israel had anything about them they'd hit the schools at lunch time whilst the kids are outside on the playground Quote
royal white Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Just now, Zico said: If Israel had anything about them they'd hit the schools at lunch time whilst the kids are outside on the playground Or 3:30 Quote
Moderators Casino Posted November 8 Moderators Posted November 8 1 hour ago, athywhite1958 said: A lot of trouble in Amsterdam last night as pro Palestine folks targeted Maccabi Tel Aviv fans who were there to watch their game with Ajax Alternatively, Israelis with anti arab chants got a kicking Quote
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