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11 minutes ago, Zico said:

So long as you know what you're doing and why you're doing it, then it shouldn't be an issue if you reuse code or get AI to help 

It saves me loads of time 

You've still got to learn the basics and have an aptitude for it, without that you don't get far

So long as those people keep coming through all good 

And I'm sure they will 

 

Gcse and a level is now more basics of how they interact, referencing libraries etc, 

But they kids have to hand write codes, 

There isn't much practice of adapting other people's code. 

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28 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Gcse and a level is now more basics of how they interact, referencing libraries etc, 

But they kids have to hand write codes, 

There isn't much practice of adapting other people's code. 

No, I wouldn't have thought so

That would come with real life experience when you actually want to build something

Whether as a personal project or as a paid professional 

Like most GCSEs and A Levels, they'll only really teach you the fundamentals to get you on the right path

Even my degree only taught me bog standard basics across a few languages 

You learn on the job

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2 hours ago, Zico said:

So long as you know what you're doing and why you're doing it, then it shouldn't be an issue if you reuse code or get AI to help 

It saves me loads of time 

You've still got to learn the basics and have an aptitude for it, without that you don't get far

So long as those people keep coming through all good 

And I'm sure they will 

 

As long as we don't get the fkkrs who coded the 737 Max! 🙂

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I see we have pro-Palestinian "protests" outside a Jewish cultural centre in Finchley Road today

But it's alright, the Met are dealing with it*

*Idly standing by and allowing it to happen

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4 hours ago, Zico said:

So long as you know what you're doing and why you're doing it, then it shouldn't be an issue if you reuse code or get AI to help 

It saves me loads of time 

You've still got to learn the basics and have an aptitude for it, without that you don't get far

So long as those people keep coming through all good 

And I'm sure they will 

 

Isn't there potential for everyone to end up using such such stuff, and no longer having anyone understanding the very basic bits?

Machines ultimately doing stuff that no fucker understands.

I admire your confidence, but it still concerns me.

Be a shame if people end up having virtual sex, and using artificial insemination for reproduction! 😁

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3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Isn't there potential for everyone to end up using such such stuff, and no longer having anyone understanding the very basic bits?

Machines ultimately doing stuff that no fucker understands.

I admire your confidence, but it still concerns me.

Be a shame if people end up having virtual sex, and using artificial insemination for reproduction! 😁

Wouldn't worry about it if I were you. It's a couple of decades away at least.

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2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Isn't there potential for everyone to end up using such such stuff, and no longer having anyone understanding the very basic bits?

Machines ultimately doing stuff that no fucker understands.

I admire your confidence, but it still concerns me.

Be a shame if people end up having virtual sex, and using artificial insemination for reproduction! 😁

Nail

On the

Head

I had the same conversation with out IT bloke at work after an "upgrade" that didn't go well.

Silicon chips made in Taiwan with all sorts of trade secrets and programmes written in Silicon Valley.

I wasn't criticising him personally but it was so evident he was carrying out work-arounds to make things work.

Personally I am one of those people who need to know how things work, i will even take it apart to understand it... modern cars particularly do my head in... car doesn't start on a cold foggy morning? I can usually get it going without a lap top because I know what is happening.

 

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18 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Isn't there potential for everyone to end up using such such stuff, and no longer having anyone understanding the very basic bits?

Machines ultimately doing stuff that no fucker understands.

I admire your confidence, but it still concerns me.

Be a shame if people end up having virtual sex, and using artificial insemination for reproduction! 😁

First bit, yes, but you'll still need experts to do the more complex stuff 

You can build a website using AI now if you want 

But it'll be basic, you won't be building amazon or ebay etc

Further down the line AI will be able to do the more complex stuff 

But it will still only do what it's trained to do and programmed to do 

The idea of it ever becoming sentient and doing its own thing, which is what I think most folk fear, is in the realm of sci fi for me 

If AI does something bad, it's because a human told it to or because of human error

Which is why it needs regulating to a degree

Certainly now and for the foreseeable anyway 

Imo

But it's evolving at a rapid rate 

Ask me again in ten years

Maybe 5

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On 28/10/2024 at 09:58, Zico said:

First bit, yes, but you'll still need experts to do the more complex stuff 

You can build a website using AI now if you want 

But it'll be basic, you won't be building amazon or ebay etc

Further down the line AI will be able to do the more complex stuff 

But it will still only do what it's trained to do and programmed to do 

The idea of it ever becoming sentient and doing its own thing, which is what I think most folk fear, is in the realm of sci fi for me 

If AI does something bad, it's because a human told it to or because of human error

Which is why it needs regulating to a degree

Certainly now and for the foreseeable anyway 

Imo

But it's evolving at a rapid rate 

Ask me again in ten years

Maybe 5

Isn't the point of AI that it learns as it goes along?

On that basis, is it able to change its own "rules"?

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1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Isn't the point of AI that it learns as it goes along?

On that basis, is it able to change its own "rules"?

the first sentance, yes

the second, not really, not of the context of what it's been programmed to do

humansll set it on it's path and feed it data to do what it needs to do

it also really depends on what you think it could do that is so possibly bad, off it's own back

if you program AI to do somehting like controling the flood barriers on a river depending on currennt levels and a weather forecast, it's not going to

a) decide to let the river flood because it has decided to go rogue as it doesn't like humans anymore

b) program itself to hack into the pentagon and fire nukes at russia

c) start a robot uprising like in The Terminator

 

so what is your concern of what it might do?

 

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8 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

A lot of trouble in Amsterdam last night as pro Palestine folks targeted Maccabi Tel Aviv fans who were there to watch their game with Ajax

It's IsLaMaPhObIA month apparently ... Show some respect.

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23 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Schools still open?

I assume so as it was suggested on here if you want to protect your kids from rockets targeted at terrorists hiding in schools, you'd keep them at home

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28 minutes ago, Zico said:

I assume so as it was suggested on here if you want to protect your kids from rockets targeted at terrorists hiding in schools, you'd keep them at home

Hardly rocket science is it.

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5 minutes ago, royal white said:

Hardly rocket science is it.

If Israel had anything about them they'd hit the schools at lunch time whilst the kids are outside on the playground 

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1 hour ago, athywhite1958 said:

A lot of trouble in Amsterdam last night as pro Palestine folks targeted Maccabi Tel Aviv fans who were there to watch their game with Ajax

Alternatively, Israelis with anti arab chants got a kicking

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