Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

 

Fake news

Israel is doing all it can to protect innocent lives

What a horrendous world we live in

 

37 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

 

Meh, just "cancer removal" innit, @bolty58?

42 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

 

To be fair - that child could have been harbouring any number of Hamas terrorists! 

War Crimes, legalised terrorism aided, backed and funded by the West.

Is there a reason why the drone targeted a child…..if indeed it is a child? 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Is there a reason why the drone targeted a child…..if indeed it is a child? 

Round and round we go.

Don't know what exactly is going on there, but I'm surprised to hear them saying he's been martyred. Isn't that used for fighters?

As Gonzo says it's a horrible world.

Been going on for years, just that the outrage when tens of thousands of rockets are fired into Israel, is largely missing.

 

10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Round and round we go.

Don't know what exactly is going on there, but I'm surprised to hear them saying he's been martyred. Isn't that used for fighters?

As Gonzo says it's a horrible world.

Been going on for years, just that the outrage when tens of thousands of rockets are fired into Israel, is largely missing.

 

 

martyr

/ˈmɑːtə/
noun

1. a person who is killed because of their religious or other beliefs.

46 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Round and round we go.

Don't know what exactly is going on there, but I'm surprised to hear them saying he's been martyred. Isn't that used for fighters?

As Gonzo says it's a horrible world.

Been going on for years, just that the outrage when tens of thousands of rockets are fired into Israel, is largely missing.

 

The video posted by a “respected” journalist says a kid was targeted by a drone. Theres no sign of a drone. The kid doesn’t look much like a kid and the full video definitely doesn’t show citizens being turned into scattered remains.
 

Of all the bad stuff Israel are apparently doing you wouldn’t think they would have to make stuff up for Twitter hey, definitely caught a few of the usuals out on here. 

Edited October 20, 20241 yr by royal white

In fairness you wouldn't see a drone- don't think they use the one way ones, but the loitering jobs that are armed.

Nevertheless, as GMP found out, vids can often show what folk want them to.

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

In fairness you wouldn't see a drone- don't think they use the one way ones, but the loitering jobs that are armed.

Nevertheless, as GMP found out, vids can often show what folk want them to.

Point is there’s no sign of the scattered citizens who went to help and the kid looks more like an adult, there’s a high probability with all the inaccuracies in his report that there was no drone. 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Point is there’s no sign of the scattered citizens who went to help and the kid looks more like an adult, there’s a high probability with all the inaccuracies in his report that there was no drone. 

Maybe not.

Something caused an explosion/big bang though.

 

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

 

martyr

/ˈmɑːtə/
noun

1. a person who is killed because of their religious or other beliefs.

No shit sherlock. 

Nevertheless, as you know, in the context of Islamist activity, it is typically applied to individuals who lose their life whilst fighting. More religious crap. 

Moreover, the commentary (translation) only once suggests it may be a child.

Even if it is, we don't know what the circumstances are. However, if, as the report says, he was carrying ammunition, then maybe he was seen as a legitimate target.

Maybe they shouldn't let youngsters carry weapons etc, and have take the responsibility themselves. 

 

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Nevertheless, as you know, in the context of Islamist activity, it is typically applied to individuals who lose their life whilst fighting.

I don't "know" anything of the sort. That's just your opinion.

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No shit sherlock. 

Nevertheless, as you know, in the context of Islamist activity, it is typically applied to individuals who lose their life whilst fighting. More religious crap. 

Moreover, the commentary (translation) only once suggests it may be a child.

Even if it is, we don't know what the circumstances are. However, if, as the report says, he was carrying ammunition, then maybe he was seen as a legitimate target.

Maybe they shouldn't let youngsters carry weapons etc, and have take the responsibility themselves. 

 

I think they meant a kid was targeted by a drone using live ammunition 

Not a kid carrying live ammunition was targeted by a drone 

2 hours ago, Zico said:

I think they meant a kid was targeted by a drone using live ammunition 

Not a kid carrying live ammunition was targeted by a drone 

How anybody can read that and come to the conclusion the kid was carrying ammo is beyond me. 

Four workers killed in strike in southern Gaza, Oxfam saypublished at 17:30

17:30

Oxfam say four water company staff have been killed in an Israeli strike on their way to Khuzaa, southern Gaza. 

The charity group condemns the attacks and say the four men worked for Oxfam partner the Coastal Municipalities Water Utility.

"Despite prior coordination with Israeli authorities their clearly-marked vehicle was bombed", they add.

Oxfam say the attacks are "clear violations of international humanitarian law" and they have demanded an independent investigation into the incident.

The BBC has approached the Israeli military for comment.

32 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

How anybody can read that and come to the conclusion the kid was carrying ammo is beyond me. 

It’s hard to verify the specific video. Twitter is rarely a reliable source, as are the shorter videos. Either way, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was true as it’s not the first time Israel have deliberately targeted non combatants. 

doctors also reported treating a steady stream of children, elderly people and others who were clearly not combatants with single bullet wounds to the head or chest.

Some of the physicians said that the types and locations of the wounds, and accounts of Palestinians who brought children to the hospital, led them to believe the victims were directly targeted by Israeli troops.

Other doctors said they did not know the circumstances of the shootings but that they were deeply troubled by the number of children who were severely wounded or killed by single gunshots, sometimes by high-calibre bullets causing extensive damage to young bodies.

In mid-February, a group of UN experts accusedthe Israeli military of targeting Palestinian civilians who are evidently not combatants, including children, as they sought shelter.

“We are shocked by reports of the deliberate targeting and extrajudicial killing of Palestinian women and children in places where they sought refuge, or while fleeing. Some of them were reportedly holding white pieces of cloth when they were killed by the Israeli army or affiliated forces,” the group said.

The Guardian shared descriptions and images of gunshot wounds suffered by eight children with military experts and forensic pathologists. They said it was difficult to conclusively determine the circumstances of the shootings based on the descriptions and photos alone, although in some of the cases they were able to identify ammunition used by the Israeli military.

Eyewitness accounts and video recordings appear to back up claims that Israeli soldiers have fired on civilians, including children, outside of combat with Hamas or other armed groups. In some cases, witnesses describe coming under fire while waving white flags. Haaretz reported on Saturday that Israel routinely fires on civilians in areas its military has declared a “combat zone”.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) deploy snipers – or sharpshooters, as the military calls them – during combat operations, often as part of elite units. They are trained to “target and eliminate particularly difficult terrorist threats”, according to the military’s own definition.

Israeli and foreign human rights groups have documented a long history of snipers firing on unarmed Palestinians, including children, in Gaza and the West Bank.

Palestinians in Gaza also report a terrifying new development in the latest Gaza war – armed drones able to hover over streets and pick off individuals. Called quadcopters, some of these drones are used as remote-control snipers that Palestinians say have been used to shoot civilians.

11 hours ago, DazBob said:

Meh, just "cancer removal" innit, @bolty58?

It will be over soon.

8 hours ago, royal white said:

The video posted by a “respected” journalist says a kid was targeted by a drone. Theres no sign of a drone. The kid doesn’t look much like a kid and the full video definitely doesn’t show citizens being turned into scattered remains.
 

Of all the bad stuff Israel are apparently doing you wouldn’t think they would have to make stuff up for Twitter hey, definitely caught a few of the usuals out on here. 

Could be genuine, could be fake, could be more fuck ups by the terrorists.

The usuals leap on to the hook if something suits their agenda.

19 hours ago, royal white said:

Point is there’s no sign of the scattered citizens who went to help and the kid looks more like an adult, there’s a high probability with all the inaccuracies in his report that there was no drone. 

 

13 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

It’s hard to verify the specific video. Twitter is rarely a reliable source, as are the shorter videos. Either way, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was true as it’s not the first time Israel have deliberately targeted non combatants. 

in the replies

there's an account called Gazawood who's aim is to show that lots of the stuff coming out of Gaza is staged, which they called Pallywood

 

25 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

in the replies

there's an account called Gazawood who's aim is to show that lots of the stuff coming out of Gaza is staged, which they called Pallywood

 

Aye

 Looking at their profile they don’t seem any better either, or any less biased. The horrific death toll has been backed up by other independent experts & sources. Comparing Gaza to a staged Hollywood movie with actors is just utter nonsense & an insult to the victims, even if some events have been misreported. 

Either way, Twitter is a cesspit of misinformation. As for the IDF & Hamas, both sides are as bad as each other & their interpretations can’t be trusted. Either source in the video could have manipulated the content.

We know how bad Hamas are for targeting innocent people to further their ‘cause’. And all the evidence now points to Israel’s leader’s & military being just as bad. 

Edited October 21, 20241 yr by London Wanderer

12 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Either way, Twitter is a cesspit of misinformation.

correct

there was a british jewish woman on the radio last week

she was complaining everything coming out of gaza was lies, except the IDF stuff obvs, and saying its because theres no journalists there

even fascist nick had to point out that was because the IDF just kill them