Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

Even if was was proven that there was a famine, a Holocaust, genocide, war crimes and BN and the IDF were found guilty etc etc

I suspect plenty would still say "nah, it's not that bad", then blame Hamas 

8 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

But Isreal are largely in control of the distribution, no? They run the main distribution centres (where they shoot to kill those desperate for food) and also the Israeli army (don’t) create safe environments for other agencies such as the UN to be able to do so.

Some of the photos coming out of Gaza are reminiscent of the images of Jews from concentration camps. But with kids. 

I don't doubt that, however, as seen in the video, from a chap who is on the ground, aid is available, and the issue with distribution is looting.

Those videos alleging shooting by troops do show masses of folk trying to get at the aid.

Maybe the numbers of people trying to get it, is in itself causing the problems.

There is no reason to doubt that some have been shot by the soldiers, and there is no reason to doubt what the charity chap is saying.

Hence my suggestion of air drops- maybe not as accurate, but a decent number of planes could drop a large amount, quickly, over a wide area, which may help reduce the scramble.

It may make it worse too I suppose, but the current method isn't too effective. 

As above, get some foreign journalists on the convoys, and that could help Israel with the whole narrative. 

Blocking access just leads to more accusations. 

 

1 hour ago, wanderer1984 said:

You've got him on the ropes ... he can't handle it.

Heads gone 🤣

Aye right I’m clinging on here 😂 Royal couldn’t get a monkey on the ropes  

2 hours ago, royal white said:

He’s not right in the head, he can’t be. It’s always somebody else. It’s just bizarre and weird. I used to expect it from Cheese and NIC, he’s now surpassed them both. Quite the achievement. 

😂

Rattled again. I’ll take that as a compliment.

Children starving to death & all you’ve got is a hot dog restaurant & rating the posters on here.

Who’s bizzare again 😂

Can’t be too long until we follow in France’s footsteps 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx202zvygmlo

 Wonder why the US & Israel are so against them existing ? Modern Apartheid 

According to RW no one is dying, they should have just ordered out.

🙄

15 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

According to RW no one is dying, they should have just ordered out.

🙄

Has he told these poor sods about Hot Dog 2022 ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c4gdg13rrx4o

Do you think that mother cares who has & hasn’t called it a famine. Proper oddball behaviour & deflections. 

Anything but criticise the people who caused this.

35 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

According to RW no one is dying, they should have just ordered out.

🙄

😂😂 let’s put some money up, if you can find a post where I said no one is dying I’ll send a grand over to any Palestine charity. If you can’t you do the same 🤝

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

😂😂 let’s put some money up, if you can find a post where I said no one is dying I’ll send a grand over to any Palestine charity. If you can’t you do the same 🤝

I'll double it if he can show proof ALL JEWISH WOMEN shave their heads, like the utter bollocks he posted weeks ago, whilst at a family awards night ....he is beyond reproach.

Up i6u7

15 hours ago, DirtySanchez said:

Do you prefer more modern methods of communication?

No mate. Still stone tablets and carrier pigeons for me.

15 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Without doubt Hamas will use it for political capital.

At the same time though mate, if the kids weren't in such a state they would have nothing to promote.

 

Hence the question. Hamas' theft of food supplies, terrorising their own people in food queues etc. I would put nothing past these slimy fuckers in pursuit of political capital and generating larger numbers of obnoxious cunts marching through London. This would include starving their own or persuading folk with 'martyrdom'.

Then factor in the madness of people starving with food sat on trucks in large quantities because Hamas' allies "don't want to appear complicit". United Nobheads.

Edited July 25, 2025Jul 25 by bolty58

11 hours ago, royal white said:

There’s no argument, I’m just speaking in facts, you’re making things up. Yes there’s kids starving, no one has denied that and certainly no one has supported it. To lie to try and make it sound worse is just weird and odd. Maybe one day you will get your famine (personally I hope not) then you can pop The prosecco and celebrate as it’s something you’re obviously craving for, 

You should ask him who is shooting folk queuing for food. Only one to blame in his world. Wrong.

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

You should ask him who is shooting folk queuing for food. Only one to blame in his world. Wrong.

There’s videos online of Hamas doing that but because they’re on Twitter so it’s  bullshit. Strangest thing is for weeks we keep hearing all the stories  coming from Gaza are a lie as they don’t allow in any journalists, all of a sudden the stories coming out of Gaza are true, Including ones from the daily express. Now if me, you or @wanderer1984 posted a link to the express we would be  laughed at. All of a sudden  it’s the go to place for current updates 🤷🏻 go figure 

Edited July 26, 2025Jul 26 by royal white

Can't help but think of this guy

 

 

 

"Malnutrition is surging with 90,000 women and children in urgent need of treatment," the World Food Programme (WFP) said in a statement.

But a few lads on a footy forum know better 🙄 All because Hamas tell lies. 
 

Hamas hardly have any control anymore and there are plenty of other NGOs & people on the ground who can see what’s happening.

The denial goes on …

Meanwhile Israel have been kidnapping doctors 

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jul/26/rising-number-of-doctors-among-hundreds-of-medical-staff-detained-in-gaza-say-rights-groups

Glad the aid drops are going in

Edited July 26, 2025Jul 26 by London Wanderer

29 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

"Malnutrition is surging with 90,000 women and children in urgent need of treatment," the World Food Programme (WFP) said in a statement.

But a few lads on a footy forum know better 🙄 All because Hamas tell lies. 
 

Hamas hardly have any control anymore and there are plenty of other NGOs & people on the ground who can see what’s happening.

The denial goes on …

Meanwhile Israel have been kidnapping doctors 

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jul/26/rising-number-of-doctors-among-hundreds-of-medical-staff-detained-in-gaza-say-rights-groups

Glad the aid drops are going in

Yep - really positive about the aid drops.  Surprised the Israelis are agreeing to it tbh.

Always bizarre to read the overnight exchanges on here between a couple of the usuals, desperately and pathetically trying to reassure and convince each other that Israel’s doing nowt wrong. One day independent media will be allowed in and one day the truth will be unequivocal.

Edited July 26, 2025Jul 26 by Bertie

2 hours ago, Bertie said:

Yep - really positive about the aid drops.  Surprised the Israelis are agreeing to it tbh.

Always bizarre to read the overnight exchanges on here between a couple of the usuals, desperately and pathetically trying to reassure and convince each other that Israel’s doing nowt wrong. One day independent media will be allowed in and one day the truth will be unequivocal.

Don’t think Israel have much of a choice anymore. As Starmer says though , it’s too late. Malnutrition requires hospital treatment & consistent, reliable access to food. Now Israel have started kidnapping and locking up doctors 🙄 But it’s good the drops are happening. Hopefully they prevent more becoming malnourished. 
 

This ‘Whatabout the restaurants that are open’ has to be the daftest tangents I’ve seen on this topic. Proper nonsense.

 You can even understand the criticism of Hamas or the UN. Even if it is obvious are now Israel causing this. 
 

But to go on about places serving food … Take it there are places open in Sudan…does that mean the crisis there isn’t as bad as is being reported then ? 🙄

Edited July 26, 2025Jul 26 by London Wanderer

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Don’t think Israel have much of a choice anymore. As Starmer says though , it’s too late. Malnutrition requires hospital treatment & consistent, reliable access to food. Now Israel have started kidnapping and locking up doctors 🙄 But it’s good the drops are happening. Hopefully they prevent more becoming malnourished. 
 

This ‘Whatabout the restaurants that are open’ has to be the daftest tangents I’ve seen on this topic. Proper nonsense.

 You can even understand the criticism of Hamas or the UN. Even if it is obvious are now Israel causing this. 
 

But to go on about places serving food … Take it there are places open in Sudan…does that mean your crisis there isn’t as bad as is being reported then ? 🙄

Weird that you keep going on about a restaurant that you don’t think exists. Are you ok? 
 

With regards to the posters  who have denied malnutrition can you name them? I bet you can’t. 

2 hours ago, royal white said:

Weird that you keep going on about a restaurant that you don’t think exists. Are you ok? 
 

With regards to the posters  who have denied malnutrition can you name them? I bet you can’t. 

I’m alright mate, thanks for asking. How are you?

Bit ironic …. Weren’t you the one sharing their life story 😄

When your good self (& others) share stories about restaurants being open, it gives an impression that you’re denying / downplaying how serious the situation is.

 Just like the Twitter accounts you’re sharing from are trying to do 👍

 

31 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I’m alright mate, thanks for asking. How are you?

Bit ironic …. Weren’t you the one sharing their life story 😄

When your good self (& others) share stories about restaurants being open, it gives an impression that you’re denying / downplaying how serious the situation is.

 Just like the Twitter accounts you’re sharing from are trying to do 👍

 

Glad you’re ok, you’re certainly not coming across that way. Probably the “impression” you’re giving 😂

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Glad you’re ok, you’re certainly not coming across that way. Probably the “impression” you’re giving 😂

Haha. The irony eh. You waffle more shite with every night shift that goes by 😂

Wonder what your next random unrelated deflection will be when Israel commits another atrocity.

 Until then x 

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Haha. The irony eh. You waffle more shite with every night shift that goes by 😂

Wonder what your next random unrelated deflection will be when Israel commits another atrocity.

 Until then x 

I don't know - let's find out. Here's a quote from the BBC today, after troops opened fire at women trying to get aid at a 'women only' aid distribution centre. 

"There was a huge crowd of women and the place seemed out of control, they couldn't offload and distribute the aid," Khawla said. "They started spraying the women with pepper spray, then they brought stun grenades and started throwing them on the women to force them backwards."

The sisters got split up in the mayhem. Khawla's clothes were full of pepper spray and so she called her sister, agreeing to meet at their brother's house.

Shortly after she called again, feeling something wasn't right.

"This time a stranger picked up, he told me the owner of the phone was shot and was being taken to the Red Cross [field hospital]," said Khawla.

"I called again and this time I was told she was shot in the head. I ran like crazy and called again, but this time I was told the owner of this phone had been killed."

This Hotdog place could make a fortune with a better leafleting campaign. Maybe it's because they can't deliver the leaflets because the front doors with the letterboxes on have been blown up? 

Anyway - another day in paradise where there's definitely not any war crimes going on! 🙄

Can it get any more grim? Setting up honey traps, then shooting the starving people who flock to them. Unbelievably cruel and sinister madness.

At a women only aid distribution. Fck me. They really are barbarians.

Since the GHF aid system was established in late May, the UN says over 1,000 Palestinians have been killed by the Israeli military while trying to get aid mostly near GHF distribution sites, as well as near UN and other aid convoys.

Yeah but WhatAbout Hot Dog 2022

WhatAbout Sudan

WhatAbout the UKs historic conflicts 

Moronic 

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Can it get any more grim? Setting up honey traps, then shooting the starving people who flock to them. Unbelievably cruel and sinister madness.

I don't know. I wonder how bad it needs to get before some people reach their particular tipping point?

Question for @bolty58 and @royal white I suppose. You both seem happy (probably the wrong word, accepting maybe) of what's going on in Gaza. 

How bad would it have to get to make you reconsider your position and and conclude that the IDF/Israel had gone too far? 

Edited July 26, 2025Jul 26 by kent_white