Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

21 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Intelligent man cutting no corners.

I have long held the view that all this using Palestine as a motive for attacks on Israel and international terrorism is bollocks. It's the realisation that they backed the wrong horse a couple of thousand years ago and have ended up driving around on donkey drawn carriages whilst the other fairy tale option lot are now capable of commercial space travel. That's the real motive. Envy - allied to a fanatical commitment to not acknowledge the bad choice they made and suffer loss of face.

The Palestinians are just their pawns in the game.

 

Daft thing is, Islamic culture brought the world plenty in terms of technology of the time, food etc.

40 minutes ago, royal white said:

Glad you find it funny. 

It's just you my man. Not the situation.

You've gone full circle from posting about takeaways being open, to blaming the UN to now going on about how flooding a starving population with food isn't a very good idea 🙄

 Not sure where you got the 'vast majority' figure from, as I can't see that in the news. But it really is no surprise that some of the food initially will be taken by desperate people. It isn't a reason not to send it all in. 

14 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

It's just you my man. Not the situation.

You've gone full circle from posting about takeaways being open, to blaming the UN to now going on about how flooding a starving population with food isn't a very good idea 🙄

 Not sure where you got the 'vast majority' figure from, as I can't see that in the news. But it really is no surprise that some of the food initially will be taken by desperate people. It isn't a reason not to send it all in. 

No full circle cocker. There’s takeaways and restaurants open. There’s clearly areas that are nowhere near suffering as badly. You’ve said flood the area but have no idea how. The UN is refusing to deliver what’s available (well they was) and you’re not happy with how GHF and the IDF are doing it. 
 

Hamas don't even hold the majority of power in the strip anymore, what are these Twitter rambles from people with no credentials. 

Losing track with the nonsense circles being spun above. Whatabout the takeaways, Whatabout the UN, Whatabout Hamas, Whatabout the looting. It really is wild the length someone will go to, just to avoid criticising the IDF. 

It is being referred to as a famine today. Of all the things this current Israeli government have done, this has to be the most unnecessary and grim. You don't need to starve children and innocent civilians to defend yourself. 

The Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) has issued an alert saying "the worst-case scenario of famine is currently playing out in the Gaza Strip".

The alert from the UN-backed review says: "Mounting evidence shows that widespread starvation, malnutrition, and disease are driving a rise in hunger-related deaths".

"Latest data indicates that famine thresholds have been reached for food consumption in most of the Gaza Strip and for acute malnutrition in Gaza City," it says.

 

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Hamas don't even hold the majority of power in the strip anymore, what are these Twitter rambles from people with no credentials. 

Losing track with the nonsense circles being spun above. Whatabout the takeaways, Whatabout the UN, Whatabout Hamas, Whatabout the looting. It really is wild the length someone will go to, just to avoid criticising the IDF. 

It is being referred to as a famine today. Of all the things this current Israeli government have done, this has to be the most unnecessary and grim. You don't need to starve children and innocent civilians to defend yourself. 

The Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) has issued an alert saying "the worst-case scenario of famine is currently playing out in the Gaza Strip".

The alert from the UN-backed review says: "Mounting evidence shows that widespread starvation, malnutrition, and disease are driving a rise in hunger-related deaths".

"Latest data indicates that famine thresholds have been reached for food consumption in most of the Gaza Strip and for acute malnutrition in Gaza City," it says.

 

@grok “people with no credentials” 🤦🏻🤦🏻 

I mentioned a takeaway once and you’ve not stopped harping on about it. 
 

3 times I’ve asked how they will flood the area with food and not once you’ve been able to answer. Great plan cocker. 
 

Does this mean you’ve finally got the famine you’ve been craving for 12 months? (Who is “it” by the way?)

16 minutes ago, royal white said:

@grok “people with no credentials” 🤦🏻🤦🏻 

I mentioned a takeaway once and you’ve not stopped harping on about it. 
 

3 times I’ve asked how they will flood the area with food and not once you’ve been able to answer. Great plan cocker. 
 

Does this mean you’ve finally got the famine you’ve been craving for 12 months? (Who is “it” by the way?)

The same Grok tool that started praising Adolf Hitler 😄
 

I don't need to give you a clear plan of how and where they will deliver emergency aid and assistance. I don't work in famine relief do I, it's  a football forum, not a red cross meeting 😂

What is clear is that nobody other than yourself is questioning the need for food to get in. Looting will ease with the more food that comes in. We're in this mess because of the Israeli blockade. It already is too late, but you can stop the famine taking root by providing the emergency assistance. 

Yes this is all I've ever wanted. Christ is that really the best you've got left now? 

"Israel has long maintained that the restrictions are in place to prevent Hamas from stealing the food, though an internal U.S. government analysis found no evidence of systematic theft of the supplies by Hamas over the past 20 months".

It's time for Israel to hand over control of the aid distribution to other NGOs, the UN and neighbouring nations. That's how you move forward.
 

12 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

The same Grok tool that started praising Adolf Hitler 😄
 

I don't need to give you a clear plan of how and where they will deliver emergency aid and assistance. I don't work in famine relief do I, it's  a football forum, not a red cross meeting 😂

What is clear is that nobody other than yourself is questioning the need for food to get in. Looting will ease with the more food that comes in. We're in this mess because of the Israeli blockade. It already is too late, but you can stop the famine taking root by providing the emergency assistance. 

Yes this is all I've ever wanted. Christ is that really the best you've got left now? 

"Israel has long maintained that the restrictions are in place to prevent Hamas from stealing the food, though an internal U.S. government analysis found no evidence of systematic theft of the supplies by Hamas over the past 20 months".

It's time for Israel to hand over control of the aid distribution to other NGOs, the UN and neighbouring nations. That's how you move forward.
 

That’s it though you’ve come up with this bright idea that we need to flood it with food whilst at the same time not wanting to use the IDF and refusing to acknowledged that the UN are regularly looted. Not the sharpest really. Do you not think NGOs will fire at civilians if they try to loot food? You’re in for a shock. 

56 minutes ago, royal white said:

That’s it though you’ve come up with this bright idea that we need to flood it with food whilst at the same time not wanting to use the IDF and refusing to acknowledged that the UN are regularly looted. Not the sharpest really. Do you not think NGOs will fire at civilians if they try to loot food? You’re in for a shock. 

Why have you started making stuff up.

 Never said that. Said the IDF should allow other aid groups to do their job & operate independently so they can use their expertise. That doesn’t mean the IDF can’t be involved. But clearly they’ve got it wrong if there’s a famine. Which is why we are seeing looting. The looting didn’t cause this 🙄

How many people have the NGOs & UN shot in Gaza?

 Do you think any blame for this famine lies with the current Israeli government? 

Edited July 29, 2025Jul 29 by London Wanderer

3 hours ago, royal white said:

That’s all well and good but how long will that take? Could be days, could be weeks. They need food now, flooding the country with UN trucks will just see more looting. 

I've no idea how long it takes

it takes as long as it takes, but it has to start now if it's the most viable option for getting food to those that need it

if folk die of starvation whilst waiting, that's on Israel, and hope to see them answer for what they've done further down the line

or they get on instagram and find out where they can get take outs from until the US food bases are ready

14 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Why have you started making stuff up.

 Never said that. Said the IDF should allow other aid groups to do their job & operate independently so they can use their expertise. That doesn’t mean the IDF can’t be involved. But clearly they’ve got it wrong if there’s a famine. Which is why we are seeing looting. The looting didn’t cause this 🙄

How many people have the NGOs & UN shot in Gaza?

 Do you think any blame for this famine lies with the current Israeli government? 

Looting was happening last year when there was no famine. November last year 97 out of 109 UN Lorrie’s were lost in a day. The convoy was hit with grenades and Machine gun fire. If the UN were armed they would be firing back. If they did that against yanks…..well it doesn’t need thinking about does it. 
 

 

23 minutes ago, Zico said:

I've no idea how long it takes

it takes as long as it takes, but it has to start now if it's the most viable option for getting food to those that need it

if folk die of starvation whilst waiting, that's on Israel, and hope to see them answer for what they've done further down the line

or they get on instagram and find out where they can get take outs from until the US food bases are ready

It’s not going to be overnight. So what’s the option? Do the UN start working the with the IDF and GHF and have a bit of protection? keep going out without any protection and risk losing it all? Of just leave the aid there on the tarmac? 
 

Some good deals on today

 

And nip around the corner for dessert. 
 

 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Looting was happening last year when there was no famine. November last year 97 out of 109 UN Lorrie’s were lost in a day. The convoy was hit with grenades and Machine gun fire. If the UN were armed they would be firing back. If they did that against yanks…..well it doesn’t need thinking about does it. 
 

 

It’s not going to be overnight. So what’s the option? Do the UN start working the with the IDF and GHF and have a bit of protection? keep going out without any protection and risk losing it all? Of just leave the aid there on the tarmac? 
 

Some good deals on today

 

And nip around the corner for dessert. 
 

 

Give you The SHITS for a Week That Place 

Grim.

3 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Grim.

Scum

Hope they end up in court one day.

 They may even end up looking worse than Hamas 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Looting was happening last year when there was no famine. November last year 97 out of 109 UN Lorrie’s were lost in a day. The convoy was hit with grenades and Machine gun fire. If the UN were armed they would be firing back. If they did that against yanks…..well it doesn’t need thinking about does it. 
 

 

It’s not going to be overnight. So what’s the option? Do the UN start working the with the IDF and GHF and have a bit of protection? keep going out without any protection and risk losing it all? Of just leave the aid there on the tarmac? 
 

Some good deals on today

 

And nip around the corner for dessert. 
 

 

I’ve no idea what you’re on about here mate.

 You’re asking blokes on a football forum to give a coordinated plan for the delivery of aid to millions. Whilst also posting menus of takeaways. It’s always a whirlwind with you.

These organisations are more than capable of doing it, even under challenging circumstances. We wouldn’t be here if Israel hadn’t put the blockade up & prevented organisations working. Historic looting isn’t enough of an excuse for them taking over the whole operation on their terms. Civilian aid isn’t a weapon. 
 

The answer is no - The UN have not killed anybody collecting aid.

 I’ll try again.

Do you think Israel hold some responsibility for the famine that was declared today ?

51 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I’ve no idea what you’re on about here mate.

 You’re asking blokes on a football forum to give a coordinated plan for the delivery of aid to millions. Whilst also posting menus of takeaways. It’s always a whirlwind with you.

These organisations are more than capable of doing it, even under challenging circumstances. We wouldn’t be here if Israel hadn’t put the blockade up & prevented organisations working. Historic looting isn’t enough of an excuse for them taking over the whole operation on their terms. Civilian aid isn’t a weapon. 
 

The answer is no - The UN have not killed anybody collecting aid.

 I’ll try again.

Do you think Israel hold some responsibility for the famine that was declared today ?

You said there’s looting because there’s a famine. That’s simply not true. 
 

The UN haven't killed anyone because their aid convoys are going out without armed guards. Have the IRD and GHF lost 100s of wagons of aid? the answer is no. There needs to be a compromise between the 2. It’s obvious that aid can’t be delivered without guards it’s also obvious that the IRD can’t do it alone. Flooding the country with food simply won’t fix it 
 

“The famine declared TODAY” 😂😂 you got there didn’t you, after 12 month of lies and trying you finally got it. Yes of Course Israel had a part to play. 

On 27/07/2025 at 17:55, BobyBrno said:

One state Keir. 
He’ll change his mind. 
Again.

Looks like you were right again 😂

40 minutes ago, royal white said:

Looks like you were right again 😂

😊

The day after meeting Trump? Strange.

To be honest, reading what he’s said it’s all a bit confusing. “They could” “Unless.”
Clear as mud. 

4 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Grim.

Ethnic cleansing.

3 hours ago, royal white said:

Yes of Course Israel had a part to play. 

Think I’ll just ignore your odd famine’ point scoring attempts in that last post. 
 

If you’re going to accuse folk of lying simply for sharing an opinion. Probably best not to make stuff up about what they’re saying in the very same post 😂😬

It’s good to see you’ve finally criticised them pal 👍We can agree on something for a change & accept we wouldn’t be in this grim situation if not for them. 
 

You’re right bdw. A military presence could be necessary in places. But it simply is just a case of allowing the experts to do their job. If everyone has enough, there would be less looting. None of the experts are saying we shouldn’t send loads more, you’re the only one I’ve heard suggest otherwise. Initial looting may well be something they accept as necessary. It’s better than butchering people.

Edited July 29, 2025Jul 29 by London Wanderer

24 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Think I’ll just ignore your odd famine’ point scoring attempts in that last post. 
 

If you’re going to accuse folk of lying simply for sharing an opinion. Probably best not to make stuff up about what they’re saying in the very same post 😂😬

It’s good to see you’ve finally criticised them pal 👍We can agree on something for a change & accept we wouldn’t be in this grim situation if not for them. 
 

You’re right bdw. A military presence could be necessary in places. But it simply is just a case of allowing the experts to do their job. If everyone has enough, there would be less looting. None of the experts are saying we shouldn’t send loads more, you’re the only one I’ve heard suggest otherwise. Initial looting may well be something they accept as necessary. It’s better than butchering people.

I think you’re just purposely being thick now. Of course more needs to be sent but it needs people to deliver it. 🤦🏻 it works both ways, you could easily say everyone doesn’t have enough because of the looting. It’s 24hrs since Trump said about the food centres, nothing has happened. I’ll be probably be here saying the same tomorrow. It’s doesn’t matter if 50 trucks are coming through or 450 if it’s the UN doing them alone they will be attacked. There’s aid waiting to be delivered and if the UN and the IDF/GHF don’t find some common ground then there will be more deaths due to lack of food. 

Some Israeli dude having a right old debate with the presenter here on Sky News.

3 hours ago, royal white said:

Of course more needs to be sent but it needs people to deliver it.
There are countless NGOs, UN workers & other countries ready & able to deliver the aid 🤦🏻

it works both ways, you could easily say everyone doesn’t have enough because of the looting.

Nope , there is no evidence the looting led to this famine & the US investigation confirmed this. The famine took hold after the IDF / GHF took control of aid distribution. Even their aid boxes were evaluated recently and said to be nutritionally inadequate & would cause malnutrition long term. They couldn’t even get the basics right 🤦🏻

It’s doesn’t matter if 50 trucks are coming through or 450

It bloody does   🤦🏻

There’s aid waiting to be delivered and if the UN and the IDF/GHF don’t find some common ground then there will be more deaths due to lack of food.

 From the French foreign minister:

Stressing that the air route is "useful" but "not sufficient," he noted that 52 metric tons of French humanitarian cargo are currently blocked just a few kilometers from the Gaza Strip. "It is therefore essential that Israeli authorities finally agree to reopen land access to Gaza in a sufficiently meaningful way to ease the horrific suffering of the civilian population there," Barrot said.

It’s more about Israel opening the corridors & letting those delivering do their job, than finding common ground    🤦🏻Whether it’s the UN , A western or Arab nation or an NGO. 

You can keep calling me thick if you want pal. It won’t make your arguments make any more sense.

Some corkers in that last post.

 Only Israel to blame for the current situation. It’s fckn grim & could have easily been avoided. All part of their agenda though. Make Gaza uninhabitable. Drive the population out or into designated zones. 
 

On 28/07/2025 at 00:55, BobyBrno said:

One state Keir. 
He’ll change his mind. 
Again.

Boby Nostradamus.

Mind you, not a difficult prediction to get right. Bending under pressure from the extremists who will follow the Corbyn Sultana.

Weak.

9 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

You can keep calling me thick if you want pal. It won’t make your arguments make any more sense.

Some corkers in that last post.

 Only Israel to blame for the current situation. It’s fckn grim & could have easily been avoided. All part of their agenda though. Make Gaza uninhabitable. Drive the population out or into designated zones. 
 

UN workers are already on the ground and they’re not delivering it, if they do the majority it looted. Almost 48hrs since Trump mentioned food stations, still none, I’ll be here tomorrow saying the same. If the UN don’t work with the IRD then more will die. It’s that simple. As for just letting countless other countries in 😂😂 you do realise there’s a war still going on don’t you? 
 

“it bloody does” it doesnt, they’re being looted.

of course you will go on a tangent about who posted it. It’s the clip you need to watch

Why is it only French aid you’re bothered about? There’s food inside of Gaza. Lots of it waiting to be delivered (you’ve seen the footage) We’ve been here before. Of course opening other corridors will help but there’s plenty to be going at, why not deliver that first?

 

 

“Only Israel to blame for the current situation”

You’re well and truly gone aren’t you. Probably a good time to remind you that there’s currently 50 hostages still being held by HAMAS. You not wanting to put any blame on Hamas is bonkers. 

 

35 minutes ago, royal white said:

UN workers are already on the ground and they’re not delivering it, if they do the majority it looted. Almost 48hrs since Trump mentioned food stations, still none, I’ll be here tomorrow saying the same. If the UN don’t work with the IRD then more will die. It’s that simple. As for just letting countless other countries in 😂😂 you do realise there’s a war still going on don’t you? 
 

“it bloody does” it doesnt, they’re being looted.

of course you will go on a tangent about who posted it. It’s the clip you need to watch

Why is it only French aid you’re bothered about? There’s food inside of Gaza. Lots of it waiting to be delivered (you’ve seen the footage) We’ve been here before. Of course opening other corridors will help but there’s plenty to be going at, why not deliver that first?

 

 

“Only Israel to blame for the current situation”

You’re well and truly gone aren’t you. Probably a good time to remind you that there’s currently 50 hostages still being held by HAMAS. You not wanting to put any blame on Hamas is bonkers. 

 

I didn’t just mention France. I mentioned the UN, NGOs & other countries. All of whom ate trying to do their job & get aid in. But Israel haven’t been opening the necessary corridors to open.

 The current Israeli government & Hamas are just as bad as each other.  Two sets of backwards extremists with no care for civilians . I’ve never denied Hamas’ role in all of this.

My point is that Israel are directly to blame for fact we’re now in a famine & civilians are starving.

 Aid being looted initially is not a reason to not keep it coming in. Simple as. The solution isn’t more blockades & more deaths.

 The post you shared says this:

“There is hunger in Gaza because Hamas is stealing humanitarian aid, hoarding it and selling it above-market prices to finance their terror machine. They also create the hunger because it benefits their propaganda strategies.”

You’ve clearly ignored the US internal investigation that they carried out which I shared earlier proving the opposite is true.

“US government review found no evidence of widespread Hamas theft of Gaza aid”

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/25/politics/us-government-review-no-evidence-widespread-theft-gaza-aid

For all the challenges , there was no need for Israel to take over the aid distribution & when they did, people started starving to death.

You can call me ‘thick’ & claim I’m ‘gone’ all you want. It really doesn’t help your argument bud 👍

 good to see more and more nations are recognising Palestine sovereignty & looking for a two state solution.