October 27, 20232 yr 56 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Ukraine sent much of its population away from the fighting to protect them. Hamas tells its people to remain, whilst hiding weaponry amongst them. Gaza is also far more densely populated to begin with. What a noble lot they are. Add in lying and deception (the hospital hit, number of casualties - even sleepy Joe knows they are multiplying the number by at least 5) and their CV is beyond compare. Then you get revolting fuckers marching on British streets with photo's of their 'fighters' in microlight aircraft taped to their jackets. All those years ago, Enoch Powell was right. No matter what the UN or any other fucker says, there is an imperative to destroy as much of them as Israel can. It will only take a decade or so until the next generation of inhuman, vicious extremists emerges. No doubt Israel will ignore the bleating of the 'doves' and just go in and get the job done. The sooner the better - in no small part on behalf of Palestinians who live in Gaza.
October 27, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, bolty58 said: What a noble lot they are. Add in lying and deception (the hospital hit, number of casualties - even sleepy Joe knows they are multiplying the number by at least 5) and their CV is beyond compare. Then you get revolting fuckers marching on British streets with photo's of their 'fighters' in microlight aircraft taped to their jackets. All those years ago, Enoch Powell was right. No matter what the UN or any other fucker says, there is an imperative to destroy as much of them as Israel can. It will only take a decade or so until the next generation of inhuman, vicious extremists emerges. No doubt Israel will ignore the bleating of the 'doves' and just go in and get the job done. The sooner the better - in no small part on behalf of Palestinians who live in Gaza. In terms of hamas How will we know when the job is done? I want them wiped out as much as you So far, apparently, it's 7000 Palestinians to 1400 Israelis I doubt the 7000 are all hamas I've heard collateral damage and inevitable death of civilians etc mentioned but it's not been clarified what the acceptable ratio is I'd have thought a calculated attack on hamas targets based on Intel would be the best way to go about it, as opposed to a blanket laying of destruction of Gaza Do hamas have a figurehead like bin Laden they can go after? Just really not sure how or when we will know that Israel have dealt with them
October 27, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Aye but my point is what the hell did those behind 9/11 etc think was going to happen? Same as this mob. They must have known they were signing their own people's death warrant. And my point is that they are a terrorist organisation, they don’t care about any people. Israel are killing more innocent people than Hamas currently and indirectly helping to recruit more for the Hamas cause. What is the end game? It just doesn’t work.
October 27, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, Farrelli said: And my point is that they are a terrorist organisation, they don’t care about any people. Israel are killing more innocent people than Hamas currently and indirectly helping to recruit more for the Hamas cause. What is the end game? It just doesn’t work. There is no alternative route for Israel to go down each and every time Hamas attack hit them hard, if they take them out completely and I hope they do then another group inevitability will form and the cycle repeats and it is always going to be like this until the Palestinian people decide they want peace themselves. The Palestinian people have to take control of there own destiny. Edited October 27, 20232 yr by Mounts Kipper
October 27, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: There is no alternative route for Israel to go down each and every time Hamas attack hit them hard, if they take them out completely and I hope they do then another group inevitability will form and the cycle repeats and it is always going to be like this until the Palestinian people decide they want peace themselves. The Palestinian people have to take control of their own destiny. Palestinian people don’t want peace? That is just more Israel propaganda. The tactics Israel are employing will bring this war to our shores and then we will all wish they had gone down an alternative route.
October 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Farrelli said: Palestinian people don’t want peace? That is just more Israel propaganda. The tactics Israel are employing will bring this war to our shores and then we will all wish they had gone down an alternative route. So what tactics do you think will work?
October 27, 20232 yr 48 minutes ago, bolty58 said: What a noble lot they are. Add in lying and deception (the hospital hit, number of casualties - even sleepy Joe knows they are multiplying the number by at least 5) and their CV is beyond compare. Then you get revolting fuckers marching on British streets with photo's of their 'fighters' in microlight aircraft taped to their jackets. All those years ago, Enoch Powell was right. No matter what the UN or any other fucker says, there is an imperative to destroy as much of them as Israel can. It will only take a decade or so until the next generation of inhuman, vicious extremists emerges. No doubt Israel will ignore the bleating of the 'doves' and just go in and get the job done. The sooner the better - in no small part on behalf of Palestinians who live in Gaza. The sort of thing I was talking about previously, that some can't seem to separate out and acknowledge. Overall, I look at the parallels between Gaza and the bombing of Dresden. The latter was done for a reason, that probably worked. Nevertheless a lot of people (general public) also died, and sometimes folk criticise it nowadays. What that fails to take into account is the reasoning behind it: the blitz and indiscriminate acts earlier in the conflict. It's war and its horrendous, the ready availability and information makes things worse. However, in the long run, it may help to degrade the enemy to such an extent that conflict finishes quicker and ultimately, loss of life is less than would otherwise be the case.
October 27, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Palestinian people don’t want peace? That is just more Israel propaganda. The tactics Israel are employing will bring this war to our shores and then we will all wish they had gone down an alternative route. Who said that? Israel propaganda, WTF you on about? What other tactics is there to employ? Palestinians are the key to the solution instead of blaming Israel blame the cancer within, until that penny drops more misery will ensue.
October 27, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: And you will still get idiots saying that each Hamas Bomb that is dropped short is an Israeli bomb.
October 27, 20232 yr seeing as this seems difficult if PM Ben lobs a big fat bomb at London cos theres a few not rights having a party over the death or poor innocents, is it fair to flatten Israel and all its population?
October 27, 20232 yr Just now, royal white said: And you will still get idiots saying that each Hamas Bomb that is dropped short is an Israeli bomb. Well that’s weird, I replied to a tweet showing Israel’s iron dome and now it’s showing QT
October 27, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Who said that? Israel propaganda, WTF you on about? What other tactics is there to employ? Palestinians are the key to the solution instead of blaming Israel blame the cancer within, until that penny drops more misery will ensue. equally, tell israel to stop stealing land and killing civilians fucking hell, its hard work around and around one side is supposedly a democratically elected govt, the other is a brutal terrorist group
October 27, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Overall, I look at the parallels between Gaza and the bombing of Dresden. havent there been significant changes to laws/rules, whatever, following the second world war that ought to make what we did a thing of the past? if you want to make a case that its OK for Israel to ignore international law, crack on
October 27, 20232 yr 33 minutes ago, royal white said: So what tactics do you think will work? Increased Intelligence on the Hamas group, targeted attacks on known members/locations, break up of their supply chain of weapons. All the usual counter terrorism methods. Not perfect but this is not a conventional war.
October 27, 20232 yr 23 minutes ago, Casino said: equally, tell israel to stop stealing land and killing civilians fucking hell, its hard work around and around one side is supposedly a democratically elected govt, the other is a brutal terrorist group Spot on and yes It is hard work.
October 27, 20232 yr 29 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Who said that? Israel propaganda, WTF you on about? What other tactics is there to employ? Palestinians are the key to the solution instead of blaming Israel blame the cancer within, until that penny drops more misery will ensue. It’s from your own post 🙈
October 27, 20232 yr 55 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: There is no alternative route for Israel to go down each and every time Hamas attack hit them hard, if they take them out completely and I hope they do then another group inevitability will form and the cycle repeats and it is always going to be like this until the Palestinian people decide they want peace themselves. The Palestinian people have to take control of there own destiny. “It is always going to be like this until the Palestinian people decide they want peace themselves” your words Edited October 27, 20232 yr by Farrelli
October 27, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Ukraine sent much of its population away from the fighting to protect them. Hamas tells its people to remain, whilst hiding weaponry amongst them. Gaza is also far more densely populated to begin with. Aye I know all that, but it’s still a sobering statistic
October 27, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Increased Intelligence on the Hamas group, targeted attacks on known members/locations, break up of their supply chain of weapons. All the usual counter terrorism methods. Not perfect but this is not a conventional war. It's a simple as that
October 27, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: It's a simple as that Yes because I said it would be a piece of cake. Numpty
October 27, 20232 yr 42 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Palestinians are the key to the solution instead of blaming Israel blame the cancer within, until that penny drops more misery will ensue. But they do want peace though and the Fateh supporters in the West Bank have been peaceful since the last war. The Palestinians in Gaza have no choice but to live under the oppression of Hamas though - and similar to ordinary Russians they have no choice other than to comply or die. It's equally problematic in Israel since the messianist right wing took over having assassinated their own Nobel Peace Prize winning Prime Minister and openly dividing the Palestinians in order to claim there is nobody to make a peace agreement with. They have expanded the borders of Israel and continue to do so which does nothing to facilitate a peace proposal. The key to the solution is finding a way to create the two state solution that was originally promised - one that gives Palestinians self-governance without a blockade that gives them access to trade routes so that they can work towards becoming financially independent of Israel, an end to militarily backed Israeli expansionism and all in conjunction with a UN peace keeping force to ensure they play nicely.
October 27, 20232 yr If folk think ordinary Gazans can overthrow their Hamas 'government' they are on drugs. They are a set of evil cunts who assassinated their Fatah opposition and anyone against them.
October 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Winchester White said: If folk think ordinary Gazans can overthrow their Hamas 'government' they are on drugs. They are a set of evil cunts who assassinated their Fatah opposition and anyone against them. Aye
October 27, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Winchester White said: If folk think ordinary Gazans can overthrow their Hamas 'government' they are on drugs. They are a set of evil cunts who assassinated their Fatah opposition and anyone against them. They will be supportive of Israel doing the job then.
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