Members Rudy Posted June 8, 2021 Members Share Posted June 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, Traf said: I think there's a clouding of the issue here that is convenient for some people to hide behind. There is a problem with racism in sport and in society generally. The BLM cause got hijacked and has attracted adverse publicity. It is possible to be anti-BLM and still not be racist. I abhor racism in any form, but I'm unimpressed by the BLM movement. I’m black and have no time for BLM. Equality yes, anarchy and defunding the police no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, Traf said: I think there's a clouding of the issue here that is convenient for some people to hide behind. There is a problem with racism in sport and in society generally. The BLM cause got hijacked and has attracted adverse publicity. It is possible to be anti-BLM and still not be racist. I abhor racism in any form, but I'm unimpressed by the BLM movement. You can’t do that. One or the other I think. Then never change or acknowledge an opposite opinion ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Rudy said: It’s not. That’s the same as saying raising a fist is the black panther symbol. Just because a group adopts something doesn’t mean thats what it fully represents Hence the term "useful idiots". Well meant or otherwise it gives extremely bad people a legitimacy they don't deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, tomski said: You can’t do that. One or the other I think. Then never change or acknowledge an opposite opinion ha Sorry, yes, of course. Thanks for reminding me of the rules I'll go back to booing black players, because the BLM are nobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I went to both England games at Middlesbrough, Southgate and the players are told by the FA to take the knee (allegedly), I didn't boo or clap, for 10 seconds I stared at the floor, easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Rudy said: I’m black and have no time for BLM. Equality yes, anarchy and defunding the police no. Wait??? You’re black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted June 8, 2021 Members Share Posted June 8, 2021 41 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Wait??? You’re black? Just a tan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rudy said: Just a tan Was just wondering if I had you and gonzo mixed up for a minute but now I see he’s the black your just tanned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Was just wondering if I had you and gonzo mixed up for a minute but now I see he’s the black your just tanned Add Miami to that & your head will be well fucked 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Beautifully summed up, as always: https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2021/jun/08/david-squires-on-the-unlikely-marxist-takeover-of-english-football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 All the ground Booed Ireland tonight for taking the bow in Hungary. I was taken aback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, leigh white said: All the ground Booed Ireland tonight for taking the bow in Hungary. I was taken aback. Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 52 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Beautifully summed up, as always: https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2021/jun/08/david-squires-on-the-unlikely-marxist-takeover-of-english-football I can't read it. It works OK, I just can't read the Guardian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Good. Hungary is the most right wing country in Europe, did you expect anything else ?😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted June 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Good. It isn't good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Winchester White said: It isn't good at all. Bizarre isn’t it. If they stop now because of booing do people think that’s it and it will stop. As mental as it sounds if folk are that against it they should clap or kneel for a few weeks in solidarity and that’s the way it will stop being part of the routine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitestar Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 6 hours ago, athywhite1958 said: I went to both England games at Middlesbrough, Southgate and the players are told by the FA to take the knee (allegedly), I didn't boo or clap, for 10 seconds I stared at the floor, easy Middlesbrough don't take to their knees in their league games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Euro 2020 spoiled by politics. Teams run out, shake hands, toss a coin, kick off, fucking proper simples, i guarantee nobody will boo and we can all enjoy the football ⚽️ People use their brains and don’t boo anyway and then all that can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Euro 2020 spoiled by politics. Teams run out, shake hands, toss a coin, kick off, fucking proper simples, i guarantee nobody will boo and we can all enjoy the football ⚽️ Tbf im still going to enjoy the football kneeling or not and booing or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted June 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2021 https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-01f798yfraha/amp?__twitter_impression=true Gareth Southgate writes really well here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted June 8, 2021 Members Share Posted June 8, 2021 30 minutes ago, Winchester White said: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-england-01f798yfraha/amp?__twitter_impression=true Gareth Southgate writes really well here. That is brilliant “I have never believed that we should just stick to football.” “It’s their duty to continue to interact with the public on matters such as equality, inclusivity and racial injustice, while using the power of their voices to help put debates on the table, raise awareness and educate.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rudy said: That is brilliant “I have never believed that we should just stick to football.” “It’s their duty to continue to interact with the public on matters such as equality, inclusivity and racial injustice, while using the power of their voices to help put debates on the table, raise awareness and educate.” He obviously never had a conversation with Gabby Agbonlahor 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Football and politics has never worked and never will, the knee needs sacking off, then we can get back to the beautiful game. No knee no boos, fortunately or unfortunately that's the only way it will stop, you can argue about it until you are blue in the face. The knee has exasperated the problem, it's not the solution. I could argue till I’m blue in the face but it doesn’t bother me so I’ll hold back ha. Id be more interested in booing VAR. something that actually ruins the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Agreed on VAR and add incompetent referees. And for the record I wouldn't boo personally, I'm just sick to death of all this shit and I just want football back. Good man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted June 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Rudy said: That is brilliant “I have never believed that we should just stick to football.” “It’s their duty to continue to interact with the public on matters such as equality, inclusivity and racial injustice, while using the power of their voices to help put debates on the table, raise awareness and educate.” I agree. Brilliant. He really does speak with a perfect blend of intelligence, passion, tradition and patriotism, while getting over some really important social messages. Now let’s hope he gets it right on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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