radcliffe white Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Steejay said: Maddison should be in there. Finished season very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderson93 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Honestly think it's a bit disgraceful that Maguire continues to keep his place. Absolutely abysmal this season and the fact he isn't able to acknowledge that he's been poor is just as worrying. I've seen the argument made that because he's never let England down that he deserves his place, in that case best get Joe Hart back in as he's always been decent for England. Can just disregard the fact that he's absolutely garbage now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 You’ve got to have some consistency in your squads though otherwise the squads would be different every time if picked on form alone and you’d never get anywhere fact is Maguire hasn’t let England down. At all. Pickford went through exactly the same pre the euros and Southgate stuck by him. Had a fantastic tournament and now come out the other side for Everton. Maguire will probably do the same. There’s bigger all round problems at united that have exposed the short comings of his game. That doesn’t happen with England the spine of the team / squad has to stay relatively stable then you introduce new and fresh at the side of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 24, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted May 24, 2022 Agree with that Baz. So far, Southgate has done brilliantly with the England team, and he will make those key calls as necessary. Players in the squad won't necessarily play in the first team neither- he's going to look at then and make judgements. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Agree with that Baz. So far, Southgate has done brilliantly with the England team, and he will make those key calls as necessary. Players in the squad won't necessarily play in the first team neither- he's going to look at then and make judgements. Fair enough. Yeh then you drop your Tomori’s etc in sparingly. Build up their confidence and get them familiar and comfortable with all that starting regularly for England brings. If poor form of others continues the replacement isn’t as big a risk then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: You’ve got to have some consistency in your squads though otherwise the squads would be different every time if picked on form alone and you’d never get anywhere fact is Maguire hasn’t let England down. At all. Pickford went through exactly the same pre the euros and Southgate stuck by him. Had a fantastic tournament and now come out the other side for Everton. Maguire will probably do the same. There’s bigger all round problems at united that have exposed the short comings of his game. That doesn’t happen with England the spine of the team / squad has to stay relatively stable then you introduce new and fresh at the side of spot on this. Pickford, Maguire, Stones, Rice & Kane are your nailed on starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted May 24, 2022 Moderators Share Posted May 24, 2022 Maguire is awful. Just awful. The shortcomings being lack of pace, reading of the game and positioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Remove the rags. We win something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted May 24, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted May 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Carlos said: Maguire is awful. Just awful. The shortcomings being lack of pace, reading of the game and positioning. So the hallmarks of a decent and consistent player are actually Maguire’s weaknesses. How come the whole of non-DMB fans can see this but Southgate struggles to think of a reason to play someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 How's Jordan Henderson not in? As good as any we have in the position Wins trophies to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Steejay said: Maddison should be in there. Correct and if they can't drop a midfielder to accommodate him, how about one of the eleventyseven defenders or Ben White, who isn't even a footballer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 2 hours ago, tomski said: Remove the rags. We win something. Can't believe the discussion went so long before sanity prevailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, L/H White said: How's Jordan Henderson not in? As good as any we have in the position Wins trophies to You fishing with Pinocchio’s rod tonight mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, deane koontz said: Jarrod Bowen definitely deserves his chance Absolutely. Probably play in the Nations but don't know how he's going to dislodge Sterling. Southgate loves him. Edited May 24, 2022 by Underpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 And so he should, hes brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 2 hours ago, MickyD said: So the hallmarks of a decent and consistent player are actually Maguire’s weaknesses. How come the whole of non-DMB fans can see this but Southgate struggles to think of a reason to play someone else? If we can’t find a better centre half than Maguire we’re wining nowt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Tbf hes been formidable in our last two competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 How many other left sided CBs do we have btw?… It’s alright saying get rid of a players who’ve been nothing short of superb for England but replace with who? sterling is as untouchable as Kane and rightly so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, tomski said: You fishing with Pinocchio’s rod tonight mate Absolutely not. Would you not have him in your squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted May 24, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted May 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, L/H White said: Absolutely not. Would you not have him in your squad? Southgate’s giving him a rest. Said that he knows what he’s getting with him. He’ll be going to Qatar, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Steejay said: Southgate’s giving him a rest. Said that he knows what he’s getting with him. He’ll be going to Qatar, no doubt. Was gonna say if it was the world cup squad I'd want him in it. These couple of games he shouldn't be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Don't get the Sterling love in. With him we are winning nowt never mind Maguire. Same with Southgate, have we got so near despite him or because of him? Hope he's learned from Croatia and Italy but I'm not convinced. Time to be defensive but also time to go for it and I don't think he's got it in him. Love to be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, L/H White said: Absolutely not. Would you not have him in your squad? No. Not on playing ability. No doubt he’s a leader. Depends what he’d be needed for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Maguire is the best centre half we have currently. First or Second name on team sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, Max Cherry said: Don't get the Sterling love in. With him we are winning nowt never mind Maguire. Same with Southgate, have we got so near despite him or because of him? Hope he's learned from Croatia and Italy but I'm not convinced. Time to be defensive but also time to go for it and I don't think he's got it in him. Love to be wrong Yeah I agree man. Let's get Sean dyche in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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