Greg_BWFC Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, gonzo said: Aye think most sane people are various points in the middle ground away from the micro analysis and what seems like overreaction on here. Think we are all guilty of wanting everything here and now and in particular analysing to death the here and now. Its a marathon not a sprint and all that. We are up there punching and not even got onot even got out of 2nd gear year yet.ut of 2nd gear year yet. Sqaud seem really together and the match going fans are still massively on board. Be reet wont it. Basing my optimism on my belief that we've still to see the best of this lot. And as you say, we're still right in it, and at times playing some great stuff. Small sample size, but seem to be a bit better away this year. Hope it can continue as I think that's held us back previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I think this has possibly been Evatt's best week as our manager, showing a willingness to listen and change. The tactical switch on Tuesday was spot-on and the new threat from set plays is a welcome addition. We'll still lose some games that we'd expect to win, but that's the nature of Division 3 football. 2pts a game has to be the target and it's going well so far, despite many of us thinking we've not started to play well yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted October 29, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2023 Yesterday was comfortably the most complete performance of the season. Whether it's the new lads starting to gel or additional work on the training ground etc, who knows. Hopefully though we are now starting to click in gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 29, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, desperado said: but he’s also developing, changing and improving as any young manager with ambitions to manage at a higher level should. This is the bit that's important for me. Experience teaching how to stick to your overall ethic, but being modest enough to remain flexible when things aren't quite working. An ongoing evolution that all good managers achieve. Hopefully it will continue, and we will reap the rewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Came on here this time last week said Evatt needed a plan B.......Fuck politics 7 days is a long time in football well done Evatt and the players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 41 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Came on here this time last week said Evatt needed a plan B.......Fuck politics 7 days is a long time in football well done Evatt and the players If Plan A doesnt work.... Make Plan A better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, masi 51 said: Came on here this time last week said Evatt needed a plan B.......Fuck politics 7 days is a long time in football well done Evatt and the players Well xone Evatt indeed. A good week. Also a week we let Northamton back in and where holding on, one where we let Wycombe back in ... though credit for coming back at them again. Yesterday, excellent, though a lot of defending was needed (& achieved) in that second half. We still could do with a plan B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted October 29, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: We still could do with a plan B. I’m not really sure what that claim is. Why aren’t these examples of a plan b, c or d? - Using Thomason as a holding midfielder or using him as a number 8 - Same with Sheehan - Jones as a RWB or Jones as a RCD - Darces Cogley as a LWB or RWB - Changing personnel from game to game to suit the opposition - Bringing on 2 bigger strikers to go more direct and hold the ball up better in the last 3rd - Changing the approach in the final third and asking his players to either get the ball wider or shoot on site or work openings more patiently - Equipping players with the knowledge to be fluid in formation in game situations Edited October 29, 2023 by desperado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 29, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 29, 2023 You are wasting your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, desperado said: I’m not really sure what that claim is. Why aren’t these examples of a plan b, c or d? - Using Thomason as a holding midfielder or using him as a number 8 - Same with Sheehan - Jones as a RWB or Jones as a RCD - Darces Cogley as a LWB or RWB - Changing personnel from game to game to suit the opposition - Bringing on 2 bigger strikers to go more direct and hold the ball up better in the last 3rd - Changing the approach in the final third and asking his players to either get the ball wider or shoot on site or work openings more patiently - Equipping players with the knowledge to be fluid in formation in game situations They wouldn't know a plan B if it slapped them in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Think the original Plan wasnt working too well because half the defence was injured, a midfielder was playing with a broken back and 1 or 2 just werent at the races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 29, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 28/10/2023 at 14:40, Johnnyrotten said: I genuinely don't understand the "option to buy" thing. I don't think we ever had the option to buy Trafford or Bradley But my guess would be there's a loan fee for someone like Ashworth and that could be then included as part of his overall transfer fee Eg we value him at 500k, you can pay 100k to have him on loan and then only have to pay 400k to sign him Total guess but If not I've no idea how it works because it's just a loan and you either buy him or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Zico said: I don't think we ever had the option to buy Trafford or Bradley But my guess would be there's a loan fee for someone like Ashworth and that could be then included as part of his overall transfer fee Eg we value him at 500k, you can pay 100k to have him on loan and then only have to pay 400k to sign him Total guess but If not I've no idea how it works because it's just a loan and you either buy him or not Think West Brom do it for tax purposes as well. Sure Paul Robinson was on loan as well when he signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 29, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, tomski said: Think West Brom do it for tax purposes as well. Sure Paul Robinson was on loan as well when he signed. Apparently so Had a look back But by the sounds of it Robinson was signing for 3 years regardless https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/4490334.im-a-wanderers-player-says-robinson/ Robinson was upset to see his switch to the North West had been classified as a season-long loan deal and quickly moved to set the record straight. “I have signed a three-year contract, simple as that,” he said. “The 12-month loan deal was simply helping West Brom out for tax reasons Wanderers have agreed to pay around £1million for the former England Under-21 defender, although the money will not be paid until next season, giving the Baggies a 12-month tax break on the fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted November 10, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted November 10, 2023 Manager of the month.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, desperado said: Manager of the month.... Kiss of Death for sat That Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter victor meldrew Posted November 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted November 10, 2023 doesn't believe in a plan B , just a better plan A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 10, 2023 Members Share Posted November 10, 2023 13 hours ago, desperado said: Manager of the month.... Oh FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted November 10, 2023 Members Share Posted November 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Oh FFS Isn't it one of those myths that winning manager of the month means a shit run? There are times it probably has but equally there must times it hasn't But nobody remembers the latter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 10, 2023 Members Share Posted November 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Isn't it one of those myths that winning manager of the month means a shit run? There are times it probably has but equally there must times it hasn't But nobody remembers the latter Aye probably To be fair, I think a lot of the time the award is won by a manager who's team is on a bit of a hot streak rather than being generally good so it seems like it's a curse but it's actually just the team reverting to the norm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Bad form inevitably follows good form at some point and vice versa. The change in form at the the same time as an award is pure chance, a bit like a horoscope that comes true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted November 10, 2023 If they introduced the shittest manager of the month award, would teams suddenly start doing well? Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted November 11, 2023 Members Share Posted November 11, 2023 15 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Aye probably To be fair, I think a lot of the time the award is won by a manager who's team is on a bit of a hot streak rather than being generally good so it seems like it's a curse but it's actually just the team reverting to the norm That bloke at Spurs has just won it three times in a row Though given the injuries and suspensions they've got, it could easily go tits up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 11, 2023 Members Share Posted November 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: That bloke at Spurs has just won it three times in a row Though given the injuries and suspensions they've got, it could easily go tits up And also because it's Spurs 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 11, 2023 Members Share Posted November 11, 2023 Maybe there is a curse? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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