Meanwhile In England

[London Wanderer]

46 minutes ago, royal white said:

Like the Bibby Stockholm? Get the Nightingales back up and restrict their movement. 
 

Who are the ones avoiding the centres? 

Not really, that was another shit show.

Are we legally allowed to restrict movement on people whilst waiting to claim asylum? (I assume we are to some extent). Personally I’d have no problem with it if cases were resolved within weeks or a few months. 
Important to remember that the vast majority aren’t here to commit crime & are entitled to claim asylum under the Refugee Convention. 
 

I’ve no idea who the ones are that are avoiding centres, as the centres don’t yet exist. I’m just saying those here to commit crimes would be more likely to avoid being taken to a centre & go underground. 
 

In an ideal world we’d just have secure borders and would be able to accommodate refugees like we did with Ukraine & Afghanistan.

In the long run we’re going to need more migrants, but that needs to be managed properly & skills based.

 Be good if we can find a way without scrapping all our Human Rights laws. 

Edited October 28, 2025 by London Wanderer

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Taking over…

Invaded….

 It’s all the same rhetoric. 

Can you give me a phrase for growing rapidly and will end up with more Muslims than none Muslims in more areas than now if the figures carry on this way.

 

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Can you give me a phrase for growing rapidly and will end up with more Muslims than none Muslims in more areas than now if the figures carry on this way.

 

Blossoming 😉

[Zico]

amsuing how folk are suggesting it's partly Labour's fault for scrapping the Rwanda schem

[gonzo]

12 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Blossoming 😉

Like piles

[London Wanderer]

14 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Can you give me a phrase for growing rapidly and will end up with more Muslims than none Muslims in more areas than now if the figures carry on this way.

 

Growing ? 
 

Though I prefer Kent’s blossoming to be honest 😁
 

Phrases like taking over or invading don’t really help imo. Creates an us vs them narrative & makes folk feel threatened.

Not that I think that was your intention. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

23 minutes ago, Zico said:

amsuing how folk are suggesting it's partly Labour's fault for scrapping the Rwanda schem

Well, if they'd carried on with it, and shown it to be a bag of bollocks, then there would be no comeback. 

They didn't, and have offered nothing as an alternative. 

That aspect is clearly their fault. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Another pull factor if we let them work.

If we stop letting so many in, then we will categorically end up with fewer born abroad than we have now.

Speed that up by wazzing more out.

Edited October 28, 2025 by Tonge moor green jacket

[Sweep]

54 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Blossoming 😉

Burgeoning

[kent_white]

19 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Another pull factor if we let them work.

If we stop letting so many in, then we will categorically end up with fewer born abroad than we have now.

Speed that up by wazzing more out.

Yeah. They were making the argument that people think being in a hotel is a pull factor too. But then looking at the state of some of the hotels - I'm not so sure! 😁

Apparently it was the last Labour Government that banned them from working. 

So maybe working isn't the best terminology. Contributing to the community? Keeping the place tidy? Getting rid of graffiti? 

God knows? I'm just throwing out ideas. I think the UK will always be a pull factor won't it? Might as well get some use out of them while they're here. And I think most people (or at least most of the people we want to stay) would be happy to work while they wait. 

But you're right. Ultimately we need to get to the process speeded up! It's a shambles at the moment. 

[royal white]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Not really, that was another shit show.

Are we legally allowed to restrict movement on people whilst waiting to claim asylum? (I assume we are to some extent). Personally I’d have no problem with it if cases were resolved within weeks or a few months. 
Important to remember that the vast majority aren’t here to commit crime & are entitled to claim asylum under the Refugee Convention. 
 

I’ve no idea who the ones are that are avoiding centres, as the centres don’t yet exist. I’m just saying those here to commit crimes would be more likely to avoid being taken to a centre & go underground. 
 

In an ideal world we’d just have secure borders and would be able to accommodate refugees like we did with Ukraine & Afghanistan.

In the long run we’re going to need more migrants, but that needs to be managed properly & skills based.

 Be good if we can find a way without scrapping all our Human Rights laws. 

All those who arrive on boats go to processing centres then (in most cases) into accommodation. How are they going to Avoid centres? There seems to be a fair few living in accommodation at the moment who haven’t gone underground and are committing crimes. 

[Zico]

39 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Well, if they'd carried on with it, and shown it to be a bag of bollocks, then there would be no comeback. 

They didn't, and have offered nothing as an alternative. 

That aspect is clearly their fault. 

it didn't get implemented properly in the first place by the tories because it was a bag of bollocks

it cost £700M and 4 people went

[kent_white]

18 minutes ago, Zico said:

it didn't get implemented properly in the first place by the tories because it was a bag of bollocks

it cost £700M and 4 people went

Still, 400% more effective than the one in one out scheme! 😁

[gonzo]

17 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Still, 400% more effective than the one in one out scheme! 😁

1 out 3 in scheme if you may.

(Plus one return)

[kent_white]

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

1 out 3 in scheme if you may.

(Plus one return)

Another few 'net contributors' Gonzo. That's what I always tell myself when I see a fat Romanian bloke walking around town in Lonsdale trainers smoking a fag! 🤣

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

All those who arrive on boats go to processing centres then (in most cases) into accommodation. How are they going to Avoid centres? There seems to be a fair few living in accommodation at the moment who haven’t gone underground and are committing crimes. 

Not all boats are intercepted

 All I’m saying is those that didn’t want to go a centre could avoid it & go underground, probably fairly easily if they wanted.

 Wouldn’t it be better to secure our borders and prevent crossings ? 

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Another pull factor if we let them work.

If we stop letting so many in, then we will categorically end up with fewer born abroad than we have now.

Speed that up by wazzing more out.

Take it you don’t like people who are born abroad then ? 😄

[royal white]

13 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Not all boats are intercepted

 All I’m saying is those that didn’t want to go a centre could avoid it & go underground, probably fairly easily if they wanted.

 Wouldn’t it be better to secure our borders and prevent crossings ? 

At least they don’t have to be paid for. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Of course it would be better to secure at the border. Any ideas how? 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

Yeah. They were making the argument that people think being in a hotel is a pull factor too. But then looking at the state of some of the hotels - I'm not so sure! 😁

Apparently it was the last Labour Government that banned them from working. 

So maybe working isn't the best terminology. Contributing to the community? Keeping the place tidy? Getting rid of graffiti? 

God knows? I'm just throwing out ideas. I think the UK will always be a pull factor won't it? Might as well get some use out of them while they're here. And I think most people (or at least most of the people we want to stay) would be happy to work while they wait. 

But you're right. Ultimately we need to get to the process speeded up! It's a shambles at the moment. 

Possibly community work, but absolutely nothing that shouldn't be being done now.

Ideally, low level prisoners/bad lads army should be doing it, but that set up is a total bag of wank, ruined by overbearing human rights/health and safety shite.

Perhaps they could make soluble rowing boats that are good for around 25 miles, complete with solar/wind/wave powered phone charging points...

[London Wanderer]

41 minutes ago, royal white said:

At least they don’t have to be paid for. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Of course it would be better to secure at the border. Any ideas how? 

Life in prison for anyone found to be people smuggling 

Undercover cops making the journey regularly 

As soon as they accept the money. Arrest them.

Genius 😄

[Spider]

London

My God

 

[royal white]

31 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Life in prison for anyone found to be people smuggling 

Undercover cops making the journey regularly 

As soon as they accept the money. Arrest them.

Genius 😄

Are we just ignoring the 1000s coming here then and still sticking with “smashing the gangs” 😂

[Spider]

At what point does a culture become history?

[SatanGreavsie]

44 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Life in prison for anyone found to be people smuggling 

Undercover cops making the journey regularly 

As soon as they accept the money. Arrest them.

Genius 😄

I've said it before, just pay the smugglers to be border guards.

[London Wanderer]

43 minutes ago, royal white said:

Are we just ignoring the 1000s coming here 

Nope