Meanwhile In England

[radcliffe white]

9 hours ago, tomski said:

Copter is doing the rounds but I assumed they were doing the usual run

It’s been out most of the week over Redbank 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 hours ago, only1swanny said:

London

Hartlepool

Newton Heath

Aldershot

Southport Yesterday,

doubt the "rioting" ones are up for work in the morning.

School's out mate.

Looking at that Hartlepool vid, few of them appear old enough to work.

It's a place with its fair share of social issues too.

Chuck in lots of warm weather and the idiots are fuelled. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

It’s been out most of the week over Redbank 

Dunno if Marc is aware, but the police plane was flying over this area on a couple of days last week. 

One day it made a direct beeline to the north west, having taken off from the Nottingham area.

[Dr Faustus]

Load of plod and immigration enforcement officers in Victoria- going somewhere

[bolty58]

44 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Hahaha

Zico enabling everyone to see who likes what is the best thing to happen to this site.

You just can't help yourself from commenting. Love it.

Disappointed you've moved on from calling my personal hygiene to now labelling me the "site uber moron" though.

BTW, before giving someone that title you should probably learn how to use apostrophes. I've spotted two now in the last couple of days.

You know full well the BO thing was just a stab in the dark random jibe. Surprised that it irked you so much 

Interesting that you label me 'moronic' then have a little tanty when the same label gets thrown back at you with a little seasoning. Boo fucking hoo 

A'post'rophe's? I can name all twelve including yon mon with the carrot.

Edited August 1, 2024 by bolty58

[masi 51]

I watched a live stream from London on Youtube last night.  Yes you had your Tommy Robinson chants and the odd hot head, but mainly it was a fairly peaceful Protest. The number of Police compared with demonstrators was well over the top.

The police herded and surrounded about 100 in just outside Downing Street they then sent in hit squads to arrest groups of three and fours until all 100 got arrested, 70/80 out of this 100 had done nothing including several pension age men and woman and a couple of youtubers who were filming it.

It was nothing like Southport the previous night or Leeds the other week yet look at the arrests

[only1swanny]

1 minute ago, masi 51 said:

I watched a live stream from London on Youtube last night.  Yes you had your Tommy Robinson chants and the odd hot head, but mainly it was a fairly peaceful Protest. The number of Police compared with demonstrators was well over the top.

The police herded and surrounded about 100 in just outside Downing Street they then sent in hit squads to arrest groups of three and fours until all 100 got arrested, 70/80 out of this 100 had done nothing including several pension age men and woman and a couple of youtubers who were filming it.

It was nothing like Southport the previous night or Leeds the other week yet look at the arrests

Common sense tells me that going to a protest the day after the Southport protest turned nasty, is a very bad idea, and the police won't take any chances. 

There's little you can do with one nut case, aside from locking up anyone who looks the "wrong colour", and theres no clear meaning behind the protests of what these people want aside from "get our country back". 

 

[London Wanderer]

43 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

I watched a live stream from London on Youtube last night.  Yes you had your Tommy Robinson chants and the odd hot head, but mainly it was a fairly peaceful Protest. The number of Police compared with demonstrators was well over the top.

The police herded and surrounded about 100 in just outside Downing Street they then sent in hit squads to arrest groups of three and fours until all 100 got arrested, 70/80 out of this 100 had done nothing including several pension age men and woman and a couple of youtubers who were filming it.

It was nothing like Southport the previous night or Leeds the other week yet look at the arrests

Seems on the whole peaceful. You’ve conveniently missed that another police officer was attacked though & there was protesters launching bottles at the police.
 

The mass arrests were made after police imposed protest conditions. Which means they can arrest anyone who doesn’t disperse. They always warn everyone on loudspeaker, so they should have moved. 
 

Part of the new policing bill that they can shut down any protest they like really. Even if they think there could be disruption. I don’t particularly agree with the whole bill. But groups don’t complain when they see a protest with opposing views asked to disperse or arrested, yet they complain when it happens to them. There was never going to be enough unity on it to get the bill adapted. 

[1969]

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Seems on the whole peaceful. You’ve conveniently missed that another police officer was attacked though & there was protesters launching bottles at the police.
 

The mass arrests were made after police imposed protest conditions. Which means they can arrest anyone who doesn’t disperse. They always warn everyone on loudspeaker, so they should have moved. 
 

Part of the new policing bill that they can shut down any protest they like really. Even if they think there could be disruption. I don’t particularly agree with the whole bill. But groups don’t complain when they see a protest with opposing views asked to disperse or arrested, yet they complain when it happens to them. There was never going to be enough unity on it to get the bill adapted. 

So why didn't they do this in Leeds?

[bolty58]

56 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

I watched a live stream from London on Youtube last night.  Yes you had your Tommy Robinson chants and the odd hot head, but mainly it was a fairly peaceful Protest. The number of Police compared with demonstrators was well over the top.

The police herded and surrounded about 100 in just outside Downing Street they then sent in hit squads to arrest groups of three and fours until all 100 got arrested, 70/80 out of this 100 had done nothing including several pension age men and woman and a couple of youtubers who were filming it.

It was nothing like Southport the previous night or Leeds the other week yet look at the arrests

And yet they stand by whilst pro Palestinian protestors openly spout genocide chants and worse.

Khan's London.

[masi 51]

11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Seems on the whole peaceful. You’ve conveniently missed that another police officer was attacked though & there was protesters launching bottles at the police.
 

The mass arrests were made after police imposed protest conditions. Which means they can arrest anyone who doesn’t disperse. They always warn everyone on loudspeaker, so they should have moved. 
 

Part of the new policing bill that they can shut down any protest they like really. Even if they think there could be disruption. I don’t particularly agree with the whole bill. But groups don’t complain when they see a protest with opposing views asked to disperse or arrested, yet they complain when it happens to them. There was never going to be enough unity on it to get the bill adapted. 

Yes bottles did get thrown, they are easy to identify on Camera.......It was rank bad policing and over the top

Does it matter if is the day after any riot....Democracy says you are entitled to peacefully protest

[masi 51]

2 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

And yet they stand by whilst pro Palestinian protestors openly spout genocide chants and worse.

Khan's London.

Every Saturday in Manchester 

[DazBob]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

You know full well the BO thing was just a stab in the dark random jibe. Surprised that it irked you so much 

Interesting that you label me 'moronic' then have a little tanty when the same label gets thrown back at you with a little seasoning. Boo fucking hoo 

A'post'rophe's? I can name all twelve including yon mon with the carrot.

Haha - it never irked me in the slightest, I've been having a laugh about it with a few on here ever since.  It surprised me that's all, I thought you were more intelligent than to resort going down the playground route.

Keep working on those apostrophes pal. 👍

[royal white]

I’m guessing the same people who wanted the police officer to lose his job last week will be wishing the same for this mon, 

 

 

[London Wanderer]

5 minutes ago, 1969 said:

So why didn't they do this in Leeds?

I don’t know loads about the Leeds protest. But urban street based protests generally require a more flexible approach than a group outside Downing Street. They were there to begin with. I don’t know if their choice to withdraw helped. They felt they were the target & if they did the community would help mediate it & less carnage would occur. Which did happen, but that’s some risk for the police to take,
 

In the aftermath, West Yorkshire police said officers were withdrawn “as it was evident that the police were their sole target. This allowed for further community mediation to take place in order to calm the ­situation.”

The usuals will scream two tier policing, but there is a little more to it than that.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/28/leeds-riots-harehills-disorder-muslim-men-children-care
 

[DazBob]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

I’m guessing the same people who wanted the police officer to lose his job last week will be wishing the same for this mon, 

 

 

Absolutely.

But let's not pretend a punch to the face is in any way similar to stamping on someone's head.

[London Wanderer]

5 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

Yes bottles did get thrown, they are easy to identify on Camera.......It was rank bad policing and over the top

Does it matter if is the day after any riot....Democracy says you are entitled to peacefully protest

I completely agree mate

 I always said it was a worrying aspect of the new policing bill brought in by the Tories. But not enough people on both sides resisted it though. It was only really those on the left that spoke out. So it came in under most people’s noses.

And now it’s the law. 
 

 

[1969]

1 minute ago, DazBob said:

Absolutely.

But let's not pretend a punch to the face is in any way similar to stamping on someone's head.

And similarly protesting outside downing Street is not the same as kicking the living shit out of three coppers at a airport 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Absolutely.

But let's not pretend a punch to the face is in any way similar to stamping on someone's head.

Let’s not pretend this officer wasn’t suffering from just being knocked out, had no weapon to fear losing, and was working with only one other female officer .

[DazBob]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

Let’s not pretend this officer wasn’t suffering from just being knocked out, had no weapon to fear losing, and was working with only one other female officer .

Absolutely.

Two completely incomparable incidents.

[deeane Koontz]

 

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Absolutely.

Two completely incomparable incidents.

Yet you want the same outcome without knowing and seeing full videos/reasoning.
 

Bizarre 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

22 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

Yes bottles did get thrown, they are easy to identify on Camera.......It was rank bad policing and over the top

Does it matter if is the day after any riot....Democracy says you are entitled to peacefully protest

I can understand the large number of officers being deployed, given the numbers injures previously, and a desire to stop things getting worse.

What doesn't help though are the optics of rioters at Rochdale police station doing the same, yet the authorities don't talk about the full force of the law, but instead dialogue with community leaders.

Whatever the exact nature of the situations are, there do seem to be very different policing approaches. 

[London Wanderer]

10 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

 

Christ he is a bit of a muppet isn't he. 

Imagine if a mob had turned up before the full story had emerged. Wouldn't have been the first time this week. 

[DazBob]

8 minutes ago, royal white said:

Yet you want the same outcome without knowing and seeing full videos/reasoning.
 

Bizarre 

On the face of what I've seen, yes. 

That said, I wouldn't want any conclusions to be jumped to and would want a proper investigation into both incidents before anyone loses their job.  Not bizarre at all really.