Meanwhile In England

[captainmed]

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

I can’t understand how people can’t grasp this, granted it’s the usual gawps. 

It’s quite simple.

It was mentioned on the BBC & SKY last night. 
 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, Zico said:

Neither were the IRA but we know full well what they stood for 

They were associated with Sinn Fein in the same way Tommy Robinson used to be both BNP and then BFP 

I'd wager everyone in Southport last night would sign up for an EDL membership card if they were giving them out 

We can call the EDL a terrorist organisation if we want, everyone can say it never existed and we're all here off our own steam if they want 

But let's not pretend they all don't prescribe to the same "political* views 

Which is why they travelled from miles around to riot and smash up a mosque 

They are extreme

I'm not sure anyone's pretending that

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, Zico said:

Neither were the IRA but we know full well what they stood for 

They were associated with Sinn Fein in the same way Tommy Robinson used to be both BNP and then BFP 

I'd wager everyone in Southport last night would sign up for an EDL membership card if they were giving them out 

We can call the EDL a terrorist organisation if we want, everyone can say it never existed and we're all here off our own steam if they want 

But let's not pretend they all don't prescribe to the same "political* views 

Which is why they travelled from miles around to riot and smash up a mosque 

They are extreme

I don’t think you could be more wrong. Theres factions of the right/ far right who can’t stand Tommy Robinson and despise the EDL 

 

Lots of scousers last night, you know the scouse not English lot. Can’t really see those lot signing up for the EDL

 

Edited July 31, 2024 by royal white

[London Wanderer]

59 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

I know people that went last night from round here and Bolton. They aren't part of any Right Wing Organisation.

 

 

Did you tell the grief junkies it wasn’t the best timing to go smash up a Mosque & terrorise the police?

[royal white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Did you tell the grief junkies it wasn’t the best timing to go smash up a Mosque & terrorise the police?

There was a vigil on you strange man 

[Ani]

18 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Fylde coast Bolton supporters group existed 1996-2003ish. There were meetings. There were Xmas dos and we organised coach travel for game. And met other groups at the said games.

That organisation doesn't exist anymore as nobody wanted to be the leader and it folded.

Each member probably still supports Bolton and goes to games.

Does this mean the fylde coast Bolton supporters club still actually exists?

Do you get priority for away games ? 

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Did you tell the grief junkies it wasn’t the best timing to go smash up a Mosque & terrorise the police?

Things are way past rational thinking mate. 

It's only going to get worse.

The lads from round here were a scooter club by the way. They've never even heard of the bloody EDL. They went for the vigil.

 

 

Edited July 31, 2024 by gonzo

[Zico]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

I don’t think you could be more wrong. Theres factions of the right/ far right who can’t stand Tommy Robinson and despise the EDL 

 

Lots of scousers last night, you know the scouse not English lot. Can’t really see those lot signing up for the EDL

 

Well they can't sign up for the EDL because they don't exist 

You'll have to educate me on the far right lot who can't stand TR, I presume they think he gives them a bad name, but I'm curious to know the difference 

Is it a case of how far you're willing to go?

But I'd be amazed if we anyone there last night thinks they're on a different page to TR 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Things are way past rational thinking mate. 

It's only going to get worse.

The lads from round here were a scooter club by the way. They've never even heard of the bloody EDL. They went for the vigil.

And ended up lobbing bricks at coppers? Are you sure?

[Spider]

37 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So you think the EDL just evaporated and all its members just went back to being normal everyday citizens?

To quote cheese

”where’s your proof?”

[Zico]

11 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I'm not sure anyone's pretending that

Then there's no reason to get irked by the label they are given, because it fits 

Nazi, neo nazi 

Labour, new labour 

IRA, Sinn Fein 

EDL, went to Southport last night

 

[Manchester_whites]

Trouble in Hartlepool tonight 

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

To quote cheese

”where’s your proof?”

Yes, I'm sure everyone who was a card-carrying member of the EDL just stopped being involved in right-wing anti-immigrant activities the day after they dropped the acronym, and none of them ever communicated with each other again.

Edited July 31, 2024 by Cheese

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

Well they can't sign up for the EDL because they don't exist 

You'll have to educate me on the far right lot who can't stand TR, I presume they think he gives them a bad name, but I'm curious to know the difference 

Is it a case of how far you're willing to go?

But I'd be amazed if we anyone there last night thinks they're on a different page to TR 

TR is a Zionist apparently, a quick glance on X  will give you more answers than I ever could. If you think TR is far right then you’re in for a shock when you see those against him .

[gonzo]

[RoadRunnerFan]

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Things are way past rational thinking mate. 

It's only going to get worse.

The lads from round here were a scooter club by the way. They've never even heard of the bloody EDL. They went for the vigil.

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

And ended up lobbing trifles at coppers? Are you sure?

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

Then there's no reason to get irked by the label they are given, because it fits 

 

No, it's not that either

It's pointing out that proscribing the EDL as an organisation is futile because it no longer exists in a meaningfully organised form

That the people organising the riots are clearly far right agitators and loosely connected, they just aren't organised as the EDL, which would likely be an important distinction when it comes to prosecutions for being a member of a proscribed organisation

[Zico]

Just now, royal white said:

TR is a Zionist apparently, a quick glance on X  will give you more answers than I ever could. If you think TR is far right then you’re in for a shock when you see those against him .

A quick glance on my Twitter or your Twitter? 

Honestly wouldn't know where to start looking on there 

What's the best hash tag?

I'm not surprised TR has decided to be Zionist 

I'd not be surprised to find folk more extreme than TR, like those willing to hurt, maim or kill 

I'd class any Muslim terrorist as extreme far right 

It's not a white only label 

[captainmed]

Can you imagine what would happen in the UK if they had said what Trump has said today? 

[Zico]

8 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Yeah he made a very valid point when he opened with "most of us have very little interactions with Muslims"

[Ani]

It is fair to say a lot of people of the far right hate Tommy as they think he is an insincere grifter. 
 

The things we have in common eh ? 
 

 

[Zico]

15 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

No, it's not that either

It's pointing out that proscribing the EDL as an organisation is futile because it no longer exists in a meaningfully organised form

That the people organising the riots are clearly far right agitators and loosely connected, they just aren't organised as the EDL, which would likely be an important distinction when it comes to prosecutions for being a member of a proscribed organisation

I'm being told it never existed in any meaningful form at the same time

Just lads with the same views getting together to protest and what not 

I don't think anyone would moving forward be prosecuted as an EDL member 

They're more likely just to get in trouble for smashing up mosque and being done for a hate crime 

But when they do if they're found to regularly post on a Facebook group called EDL for Life then by all means stick another six months on their sentence 

[captainmed]

On 31/07/2024 at 20:57, Zico said:

Yeah he made a very valid point when he opened with "most of us have very little interactions with Muslims"

Very true.

Edited August 14, 2024 by captainmed

[London Wanderer]

27 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Things are way past rational thinking mate. 

It's only going to get worse.

The lads from round here were a scooter club by the way. They've never even heard of the bloody EDL. They went for the vigil.

 

 

Ohh the vigil. I thought you initially said they went up to join the riot 😂

My bad. 

At least I got @royal white all excited there. My strange man. 

For what it's worth I don't think it's helpful the police labelling them EDL. Should be 'former EDL' if some are recognised from then. 

I'd say 'far right' is a fair description of people targeting a mosque though. 

[DazBob]

5 minutes ago, captainmed said:

Very true.

Its because they don’t integrate.

Lots don't, but lots do.