Meanwhile In England

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

He's been granted asylum because he'd be targeted by his wife's in-laws if he returned to Turkey

That's the wife he murdered

The judge remarked he granted him asylum in part because he's kept himself out of trouble since his release from prison

Again, that's his release from prison for... murdering his wife

 

[kent_white]

5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

He's been granted asylum because he'd be targeted by his wife's in-laws if he returned to Turkey

That's the wife he murdered

The judge remarked he granted him asylum in part because he's kept himself out of trouble since his release from prison

Again, that's his release from prison for... murdering his wife

 

Do they have any choice in matters like this or are they bound by precedent and legislation? 

I can't imagine a judge allowing someone to stay based on their discretion under these circumstances? 

[royal white]

16 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

He's been granted asylum because he'd be targeted by his wife's in-laws if he returned to Turkey

That's the wife he murdered

The judge remarked he granted him asylum in part because he's kept himself out of trouble since his release from prison

Again, that's his release from prison for... murdering his wife

 

They’re happening on a regular basis. 
 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/18/iraqi-asylum-seeker-mother-refuses-to-hand-over-id/

[Zico]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Just up the road for me. The dirty get. I'll keep my eyes peeled. 

should be easy to spot where he lives

 

[deeane Koontz]

3 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

This chap is a regular on the #BWFC hashtag

 

No Jail time!

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Do they have any choice in matters like this or are they bound by precedent and legislation? 

I can't imagine a judge allowing someone to stay based on their discretion under these circumstances? 

Could set his own precedent!

This is the issue that the judiciary has been confronted with for years.

Under the Human Rights act, much of the ECHR's rules/laws were incorporated into ours.

(Winston is often used to defend the ECHR, as he was fundamental in forming it, but I'm pretty sure he'd be appalled at the direction it's taken.)

I saw a debate in the house a few years ago, where Dominic Raab was looking to introduce legislation, to empower our judges to deviate from these rules where appropriate. It also meant the argument to leave the ECHR was nullified.

Don't think anything came of it: the stupid rulings are still happening, and the clamour to leave is growing. Understandably so.

 

[Traf]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

should be easy to spot where he lives

 

A sad indictment of our society.

Kids nowadays can't even spell paedo correctly.

[Zico]

1 hour ago, deeane Koontz said:

 

No Jail time!

 

Was thinking about this 

I can see why that would enrage folk 

Would have no issue with him doing time because kids get abused so he can look at the pictures, and I don't believe he didn't get off on it

But anyway

He's not getting away with anything, he's never going to have a normal life again, not like he had before 

[Kane57]

I'm still in absolute shock about it. 

I know what they say, that it's always the one you least expect, but he was a really decent guy (or so I thought).

Don't believe for a second that he wasn't doing it for his own gratification either. So wrong. 

[Zico]

Be interested to know why the police went to his house in the first place 

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

Do they have any choice in matters like this or are they bound by precedent and legislation? 

I can't imagine a judge allowing someone to stay based on their discretion under these circumstances? 

The wording of Article 3 of the Human Rights Act states no one should be "torture, inhuman or degrading punishment or treatment"

If they can demonstrate there's a possibility they might face any of the above on their return to their home countries, then no matter what crimes have been committed, by the wording of the law, they should be granted asylum, and "degrading punishment or treatment" can obviously be very subjectively defined

But despite the above, I suspect the average member of the public would be genuinely quite shocked how sympathetic, and sometimes credulous, immigration tribunal judges can be

[Spider]

One of our group who we go to the match with know him well and the pic on his Twitter feed was from their wedding last year.

safe to say they’re absolutely disgusted and shocked. He was even with them at the game yesterday and hasn’t said a word. They saw it all this morning same as the rest of us.

To think he’s been sat looking at kids in the north stand.

Dirty, nonce, filthy cunt. He’s been to his last game that’s for sure.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 hour ago, deeane Koontz said:

 

No Jail time!

 

Unless a repeat offender, people convicted of possessing indecent images almost always receive a suspended sentence

Huw Edwards being a high profile example

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I saw a debate in the house a few years ago, where Dominic Raab was looking to introduce legislation, to empower our judges to deviate from these rules where appropriate. It also meant the argument to leave the ECHR was nullified.

It wouldn't have worked because we'd have still been subject to the jurisdiction of the ECHR

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

One of our group who we go to the match with know him well and the pic on his Twitter feed was from their wedding last year.

He was even with them at the game yesterday and hasn’t said a word. They saw it all this morning same as the rest of us.

That is mad

[Leyther_Matt]

31 minutes ago, Kane57 said:

I'm still in absolute shock about it. 

I know what they say, that it's always the one you least expect, but he was a really decent guy (or so I thought).

Don't believe for a second that he wasn't doing it for his own gratification either. So wrong. 

I’m much the same. Used to always have a chat with him at aways, reply to tweets etc. Never would have guessed and almost find myself questioning my own judgement of folk

9 minutes ago, Spider said:

One of our group who we go to the match with know him well and the pic on his Twitter feed was from their wedding last year.

safe to say they’re absolutely disgusted and shocked. He was even with them at the game yesterday and hasn’t said a word. They saw it all this morning same as the rest of us.

To think he’s been sat looking at kids in the north stand.

Dirty, nonce, filthy cunt. He’s been to his last game that’s for sure.

I think that’s the bit that I found most staggering, the sheer brass neck of going to the game AFTER being convicted. Fucking hell, imagine if BN had posted it at half time or summat?!

[Tonge moor green jacket]

15 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It wouldn't have worked because we'd have still been subject to the jurisdiction of the ECHR

Of course it would- currently our judges follow it, but legislation can, and was being looked into, alter how they judges would look at it. In the same way we incorporated in into our system, we could amend the law accordingly. 

Those wanting out of the ECHR at the time were happy enough with the proposal. 

It should also be noted, that all the other members manage to interpret the echr rulings differently, or simply ignore them when it suits, far more so than we do.

The difference in percentages between the different nations is remarkable, and that illustrates the fact that their rulings aren't the be all and end all.

Doubt there has ever been anyone (politician) in these nations, prosecuted for contempt of court for ignoring a ruling.

Hence the total and utter frustration amongst the public.

[Duck Egg]

28 minutes ago, Spider said:

Dirty, nonce, filthy cunt. He’s been to his last game that’s for sure.

He's got specs, unshaven and not much hair in that pic. I don't recognise him but I'm a little worried I might be mistaken for him at some game in the future! 

[Traf]

[Zico]

Bet he's moved to Wigan

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

Bet he's moved to Wigan

Welcomed with open arms 

[Spider]

Horrible cunt.

Id guess the scousers will have him as they adore a good injection of self pity

[Kane57]

It's quite the reflective statement until the last two lines when it becomes something else entirely. Bizarre.

[Jol_BWFC]

Sounds like a last note before a suicide.

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Sounds like a last note before a suicide.

Fingers crossed