6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

9 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

No idea, but if she was it wasn't under her real name

Is Katie Hopkins her real name?

The club is best just letting it blow over without even considering any kind of press release. 

9 hours ago, gonzo said:

Seeing as the tides are rising why don't we just use sea water?

Desalination plants cost an absolute fooking load to build and operate 

Folk really would be complaining about the price of water if we went down that road 

And nobody will want a plant near them 

Maybe it's another one of those elaborate transfer announcement videos

Wow just seen the the absolute bullshit of excuses from 1 of the lads involved in the Manchester airport disturbance.Seriously what planet is he on

1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said:

Desalination plants cost an absolute fooking load to build and operate 

Folk really would be complaining about the price of water if we went down that road 

And nobody will want a plant near them 

SWW just given up on first location for proposed desalination plant as locals kicked off about environment. If anyone has been to Par will know sand is white from decades of China clay spills.

Should follow boltys mob and plumb effluent from sewage works into front of water treatment plants.

 

HWGA

 

 

11 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

HWGA

 

 

It’s only going to get worse. Tis the same over the water. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g80wpeznlo

All because of this

Slashing the RIBs didn’t last long did it, 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2083149/migrant-crisis-french-authorities-help?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwLmTcxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHhiDbfDSDVzv9qa3yczUHnbVmYdf7z5A2EUDfcEk9a4GsSv9GJeWRfWJY6E1_aem_JJyAF6w-xO6gSQBjmBgrBQ#Echobox=1752749457

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

 

HWGA

 

 

Just up the road from Epping is Harlow where the locals would react like that if the price of a pint in wetherspoons went up by 5p

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5zl75dmm0o

14 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5zl75dmm0o

Not sure why it shows the photo of the  treated water going into the Irwell at Ringley Fold.  It’s always discharged into the river, every day of the week. I don’t think there is any suggestion that it’s polluting. Maybe it’s the only photo they have. 

2 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5zl75dmm0o

Headlines are always misleading on this subject.

Five years ago SWW had 200 monitors for spills to environment. They now have 1800 covering all CSOs. 
 

The EA tighten the discharge consents very 5 years and reduce the size of works applied to, so that U-IMP7 programme includes septic tanks for five houses.

These two conniving little shites can go to the same place as the tree choppers for me. Like she's short of a few quid as well! 

Won't allow me to paste a link for some reason but it's on the main BBC page

13 minutes ago, kent_white said:

These two conniving little shites can go to the same place as the tree choppers for me. Like she's short of a few quid as well! 

Won't allow me to paste a link for some reason but it's on the main BBC page

Let's hope something is in the pipeline regarding Michelle Mone.

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Let's hope something is in the pipeline regarding Michelle Mone.

If you get 10 months for making £8k I can't wait to see what she gets

4 hours ago, green genie said:

Headlines are always misleading on this subject.

Five years ago SWW had 200 monitors for spills to environment. They now have 1800 covering all CSOs. 
 

The EA tighten the discharge consents very 5 years and reduce the size of works applied to, so that U-IMP7 programme includes septic tanks for five houses.

Indeed.

Essentially, monitoring has increased dramatically; though I understand that since all outlets were monitored, the number of incidents/volumes went up in 24 from 23. (Think is was those 2 years).

Extreme weather incidents seem to be on the increase too, and all that surface water is only going to exacerbate the situation. 

As will be borne out over the next 24 hours or so.

No wonder folk are demonstrating. How long’s it going to go on for? None of them should be allowed to roam around towns until all checks have been done and they’re clear to stay. 
 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2083550/hundreds-migrants-uk-hotels-charged-rape-robbery-gbh?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwLnizJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHvSjj2d42yW07ItCmaok9lkfDJmQL1LQF0wYk-C4qPPB9LZyjUHEIN5Po_8-_aem_J4Amem6vwT2CR1kZBnkuSw#ril4e4caq7dy9zmr7v14gby4pfjybpvm

12 hours ago, royal white said:

No wonder folk are demonstrating. How long’s it going to go on for? None of them should be allowed to roam around towns until all checks have been done and they’re clear to stay. 
 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2083550/hundreds-migrants-uk-hotels-charged-rape-robbery-gbh?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwLnizJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHvSjj2d42yW07ItCmaok9lkfDJmQL1LQF0wYk-C4qPPB9LZyjUHEIN5Po_8-_aem_J4Amem6vwT2CR1kZBnkuSw#ril4e4caq7dy9zmr7v14gby4pfjybpvm

Fred West had his own house.

 

16 hours ago, Zico said:

If you get 10 months for making £8k I can't wait to see what she gets

A pardon to protect Tories who gave her the contract?

13 hours ago, royal white said:

No wonder folk are demonstrating. How long’s it going to go on for? None of them should be allowed to roam around towns until all checks have been done and they’re clear to stay. 
 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2083550/hundreds-migrants-uk-hotels-charged-rape-robbery-gbh?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwLnizJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHvSjj2d42yW07ItCmaok9lkfDJmQL1LQF0wYk-C4qPPB9LZyjUHEIN5Po_8-_aem_J4Amem6vwT2CR1kZBnkuSw#ril4e4caq7dy9zmr7v14gby4pfjybpvm

I'm interested in stuff like this - so I was doing my usual stuff with AI. 

It reckons that out of 32,000 working aged people in England - you could expect 1,280 to appear in front of a magistrate each year, so 640 over a 6 month period. 

So it agrees with previous reports which concluded that offending rates amongst asylum seekers are roughly held as what is seen in the general population (ie not the one done by The Sun and being reported in The Express in your post). The article briefly mentions this but then doubles down on The Sun investigation which led the the opposite conclusion. 

I'm surprised tbh - I would have expected the figures to be more like the ones in the article - based to the fact that these people are generally poor - and I that I believe it's poverty that usually leads to crime (as opposed to it being specifically cultural or based on where someone was born). 

I'm not saying this for a row btw - just my thoughts after your article got me thinking and reading. AI also doesn't give an indication into the relative severity of the crimes being committed by each of the groups. So it could be that the AS group committed more serious crimes - but the article doesn't seem to be suggesting that explicitly (although it's definitely written in a style to try and make you believe that). 

So I'm sceptical about the numbers without seeing exactly how they came to that conclusion. And also surprised that offending rates amongst asylum seekers aren't higher than the background population. 

Numbers are all over the place.

When looked at by crime and nationality, there are huge differences. 

I guess they will be used by whoever for whatever. 

Reportedly the home office won't reveal all details of around half the hotels in use.

What isn't beyond doubt, is the folly of allowing people in with a far higher level of criminality around sex, abuse etc.

 

10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

What isn't beyond doubt, is the folly of allowing people in with a far higher level of criminality around sex, abuse etc.

Where have you got that from mate? AI disagrees again. I'm not saying you're wrong btw. 

"Based on my research, I need to be clear about what the data actually shows regarding your friend's claim about asylum seekers committing more serious crimes.

The key finding from the UK research contradicts your friend's argument: The most rigorous UK study I found found that the share of asylum seekers in the local population was related to a rise in property crime, while a rise in A8 migrants was associated with a fall in property crime. Neither group was associated with statistically significant changes in violent crime (Office for National Statistics). This directly contradicts the claim that asylum seekers disproportionately commit serious violent or sexual crimes. The data shows:

Property crime increase: A one percentage point increase in the asylum seeker share of the local population is associated with a 1.1% rise in property crime (Office for National Statistics)

No violent crime increase: Neither group was associated with statistically significant changes in violent crime.

Small overall effect: Since asylum seekers accounted for only around 0.1% of the population, the macro effects were small (Office for National Statistics)"

12 hours ago, kent_white said:

Where have you got that from mate? AI disagrees again. I'm not saying you're wrong btw. 

"Based on my research, I need to be clear about what the data actually shows regarding your friend's claim about asylum seekers committing more serious crimes.

The key finding from the UK research contradicts your friend's argument: The most rigorous UK study I found found that the share of asylum seekers in the local population was related to a rise in property crime, while a rise in A8 migrants was associated with a fall in property crime. Neither group was associated with statistically significant changes in violent crime (Office for National Statistics). This directly contradicts the claim that asylum seekers disproportionately commit serious violent or sexual crimes. The data shows:

Property crime increase: A one percentage point increase in the asylum seeker share of the local population is associated with a 1.1% rise in property crime (Office for National Statistics)

No violent crime increase: Neither group was associated with statistically significant changes in violent crime.

Small overall effect: Since asylum seekers accounted for only around 0.1% of the population, the macro effects were small (Office for National Statistics)"

Ask Claude for the per capita rates of sexual offending as detailed by MOJ data between 2021 and 2023

There are some caveats in that the data for many of these nationalities will be from a significantly smaller sample size because there are significantly fewer people of that nationality, and if a healthy percentage of that sample size are asylum seekers then the figures might also be skewed due to a higher proportion of males compared to females in that group, and in the case of Afghans specifically it will be skewed slightly because the previous and current government hid from the public by superinjuction the true number of Afghan nationals in the country

But the disparity in per capita rates is still alarming

13 hours ago, kent_white said:

I'm interested in stuff like this - so I was doing my usual stuff with AI. 

It reckons that out of 32,000 working aged people in England - you could expect 1,280 to appear in front of a magistrate each year, so 640 over a 6 month period. 

So it agrees with previous reports which concluded that offending rates amongst asylum seekers are roughly held as what is seen in the general population (ie not the one done by The Sun and being reported in The Express in your post). The article briefly mentions this but then doubles down on The Sun investigation which led the the opposite conclusion. 

I'm surprised tbh - I would have expected the figures to be more like the ones in the article - based to the fact that these people are generally poor - and I that I believe it's poverty that usually leads to crime (as opposed to it being specifically cultural or based on where someone was born). 

I'm not saying this for a row btw - just my thoughts after your article got me thinking and reading. AI also doesn't give an indication into the relative severity of the crimes being committed by each of the groups. So it could be that the AS group committed more serious crimes - but the article doesn't seem to be suggesting that explicitly (although it's definitely written in a style to try and make you believe that). 

So I'm sceptical about the numbers without seeing exactly how they came to that conclusion. And also surprised that offending rates amongst asylum seekers aren't higher than the background population. 

It’s more the point that we have People coming over that we don’t know anything about and they’re being allowed (and paid) to just roam around towns. 

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