They seem to have got themselves into a bit of a pickle. The daft racist cunts.

10 minutes ago, Traf said:

I went to Bolton School and we played cricket twice a week in the final term of each year ie from Easter onwards.

Mind you, I am well posh, I was brought up in Highfield, Farnworth, behind the Flying Shuttle.

Ha I went there on a free place. The cricket was shite mainly because it rained and it was played indoors and nobody gave a shite

I played at Bradshaw from under-12’s I think. Coached by Ray Taylor. Got all the way up to one appearance for the 2nd team during Bolton Holidays when all the old folk fucked off on holiday. Nowt to do with money or class. My Dad loved cricket. I played with his 1950s spiked gloves, his old pads, his boots, the lot. He had no money but pushed me to do it. If parents care then the kids will play. Drove me to every practice and every game 

38 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Ha I went there on a free place

Same, but 5yrs after you 😉

Edited November 21, 20214 yr by Traf

10 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think the question is whether there is undue bias in the development and selection processes. If there is and it means a failure to identify and appreciate talent from poorer areas then it will likely have an impact on the fortunes of the national team. That is worth caring about in my opinion.

One explanation for the disparity is that the scholarship system means some of the very best youngsters are offered places at private schools in order to aid their development and also to convince them to sign for county Academies. For example, Lancashire paid for Haseeb Hameed to attend Bolton School to ward of interest from Worcestershire, who were making a similar offer of private education.

I wasn’t aware that Hasseb was on a paid scholarship from Lancs. Matt Parkinson also went to Bolton School but Josh Bohannon went to Harper Green. Both on the England Lions tour of Australia. I mentioned better schools earlier. That’s why I questioned the class issue. It’s more about opportunity. Both Bairstow and Broad went to independent schools but both their fathers were professional cricketers so maybe they chose schools that would aid their sons cricket development. And could afford it.

Played cricket about twice in 5 years at school

Surely no one wants cricket to be more inclusive. Dreadful sport that’s on par with Rugby. 

1 minute ago, tomski said:

Surely no one wants cricket to be more inclusive. Dreadful sport that’s on par with Rugby. 

Not many sports where you get the chance to effectively throw a rock at your opponent, or alternatively get the opportunity to twat it back at them.

What's not to like.

16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not many sports where you get the chance to effectively throw a rock at your opponent, or alternatively get the opportunity to twat it back at them.

What's not to like.

Always hated it. Tediously boring and my dad trying to make me like it as a kid. 
 

Rule of thumb is anything Australia are good at is to be avoided.

Joe Root is another good example for the purposes of the discussion - started his education in a state school that did offer him the chance to play cricket but then moved to an independent school that him and his parents thought afforded him more opportunity to progress in the game.

Even use him as a poster boy for the independent sector:

https://www.independentschoolparent.com/education-news/cricket-captain-worksop-college/

Going back to summat TMGJ said, I agree with him from a gut feeling perspective that the sport offering in schools is by and large completely gash. I reckon it goes right back to a lack of male teachers in primary schools and also the way primary schools have to approach their work, by the time you get to secondary school you're trying to push water uphill with a lot of kids.

47 minutes ago, tomski said:

Always hated it. Tediously boring and my dad trying to make me like it as a kid. 
 

Rule of thumb is anything Australia are good at is to be avoided.

😂I like that. 
 

I enjoy cricket but it shouldn’t be a sport at school in PE, minimal exercise , kids have the attention spans of Millwall fans and we don’t have the weather for it. I don’t like Rugby but at least they’re exercising. 

14 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

You haven’t a clue. You just picked up some article in the Guardian from one bloke that suits your contrary narrative. You have nothing to compare it against, nothing to judge whether it’s fair or not. 

I'm not refering to the article - did you click through the link and read the actual paper? https://eprints.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/view/creators/Fletcher=3ATE=3A=3A.html

I'm hardly being contrary as I've not ventured a personal opinion, or given any narrarative, I've just said that the research that has been done across the game, seems to give a widely differing overview than you have proposed.

As I say, if you have an issue with it take it up with Dr Fletcher and the team that pulled together the three reports. 

Not sure why you are getting upset with me personally.

44 minutes ago, Rudy said:

😂I like that. 
 

I enjoy cricket but it shouldn’t be a sport at school in PE, minimal exercise , kids have the attention spans of Millwall fans and we don’t have the weather for it. I don’t like Rugby but at least they’re exercising. 

Football was the number 1 sport at Westhoughton comp when I went.  Quite a bit of athletics, then cricket, basketball and even tennis once or twice.  Surprises me now to think not once in 5 years did we ever have a go at egg chasing.

Just now, Duck Egg said:

Football was the number 1 sport at Westhoughton comp when I went.  Quite a bit of athletics, then cricket, basketball and even tennis once or twice.  Surprises me now to think not once in 5 years did we ever have a go at egg chasing.

We had football at Mount all the resources went into that and hockey for the girls. 
 

Threw a team together for cricket to get battered by Heywood. 😁

Getting back to the point re Yorkshire. Can someone tell me how an anti semitic sex pest who was called a name relating to the historical national origins of his family gets a parliamentary audience and an inordinate amount of media coverage/sympathy yet hundreds of white Yorkshire girls used as sex slaves by men of the same historical national origins receive what seems to be a fraction of the outrage. I wonder why? Same reason the grooming gangs weren't brought to justice in the first place?

Then tell me why I should believe that the UK is not fucked thanks to the actions of well meaning imbeciles and their stupid attempts at social engineering.

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

Getting back to the point re Yorkshire. Can someone tell me how an anti semitic sex pest who was called a name relating to the historical national origins of his family gets a parliamentary audience and an inordinate amount of media coverage/sympathy yet hundreds of white Yorkshire girls used as sex slaves by men of the same historical national origins receive what seems to be a fraction of the outrage. I wonder why? Same reason the grooming gangs weren't brought to justice in the first place?

Then tell me why I should believe that the UK is not fucked thanks to the actions of well meaning imbeciles and their stupid attempts at social engineering.

The tories?

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Getting back to the point re Yorkshire. Can someone tell me how an anti semitic sex pest who was called a name relating to the historical national origins of his family gets a parliamentary audience and an inordinate amount of media coverage/sympathy yet hundreds of white Yorkshire girls used as sex slaves by men of the same historical national origins receive what seems to be a fraction of the outrage. I wonder why? Same reason the grooming gangs weren't brought to justice in the first place?

Then tell me why I should believe that the UK is not fucked thanks to the actions of well meaning imbeciles and their stupid attempts at social engineering.

Must admit the hysterical outpouring of grief on talksport was embarrassing. They even had him in with H&J.

Only Simon Jordan had the balls to say it was kangaroo court without a view from the otherside, and that was before the discovery of his antisemitic messages.

The silence from them since has been deafening, only covered by Whyte and Jordon, where Jordon laid into all an sundry superbly. After that there was a tolken comment from the Jewish Andy Jacobs and that was it.

Absolutely outrageous that a lad can fire off all the accusations under the sun without a single scrap of evidence, then to be protected by Parliament and have the whole media out on a Witch hunt with any form defence.

Trial by media and cancel culture all in one.

 

6 hours ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Joe Root is another good example for the purposes of the discussion - started his education in a state school that did offer him the chance to play cricket but then moved to an independent school that him and his parents thought afforded him more opportunity to progress in the game.

Even use him as a poster boy for the independent sector:

https://www.independentschoolparent.com/education-news/cricket-captain-worksop-college/

Going back to summat TMGJ said, I agree with him from a gut feeling perspective that the sport offering in schools is by and large completely gash. I reckon it goes right back to a lack of male teachers in primary schools and also the way primary schools have to approach their work, by the time you get to secondary school you're trying to push water uphill with a lot of kids.

Something in that. At primary, we had a great teacher who did the football teams. Supported by parents, and playing/coaching dads. A really good combination and lads v dad's was always Something to look forward to. All gone now with safeguarding etc; can see why but not necessarily for the better.

At secondary, just seems to much other 'stuff' to jumble the kids' heads with, taking time out which could be used for sport.

10 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

Football was the number 1 sport at Westhoughton comp when I went.  Quite a bit of athletics, then cricket, basketball and even tennis once or twice.  Surprises me now to think not once in 5 years did we ever have a go at egg chasing.

Very strange that

A wigan school and no egg chasing

Not sure if it was 5th or 6th form, but we got to play crown green each week

We played most days in the summer, so it wasnt just tossing it off

Hayward, football was left to the honkeys but we had a shit team because of the lack of numbers! All the brown skinned chaps were shit and never got a look in. 
 

Cricket was left to the brown skinned chaps with the odd honkey chucked in, myself included. They won everything. 

51 minutes ago, Casino said:

Very strange that

A wigan school and no egg chasing

Feck off! 😆

Tbf I don't recall hearing any of the neighbouring schools - Joeys, Rivington and Blackrod etc that played rugby either. It is odd given Boltons surrounded by egg chasing boroughs.

10 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

Feck off! 😆

Tbf I don't recall hearing any of the neighbouring schools - Joeys, Rivington and Blackrod etc that played rugby either. It is odd given Boltons surrounded by egg chasing boroughs.

I went to Rivi and despite having to wear a rugby top for most of PE we very rarely played it. Mainly because it is clearly one of the shittest sports ever invented.

In fact, I think I played basketball more often and that is a truly wank sport for anyone other than enthusiasts of wank sports.

1 hour ago, Duck Egg said:

Feck off! 😆

Tbf I don't recall hearing any of the neighbouring schools - Joeys, Rivington and Blackrod etc that played rugby either. It is odd given Boltons surrounded by egg chasing boroughs.

Ex St Helens and England rugby player Sean Long was in my year at joeys as it took in kids from Catholic primary schools from aspull and round there 

He generally played rugby on his own at break time or with another wiganer 

Got into loads of scraps as he was cocky but up for it and joint hardest in our year, or at least it was open to debate if he was and often challenged

Left after 3 years to some school in Wigan, everyone assumed he was expelled but I think he just went somewhere that did rugby

13 hours ago, tomski said:

The tories?

No, marigold whiteys and their guilt trip over sensitivity. Usually somewhere from centre to left politically. Will lead us to ruin.

Yorkshire’s plight ever deepening

4 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Yorkshire’s plight ever deepening

Groundsmen next presumably. No bugger else left.