green genie Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Traf said: Someone will post the Championship away allocations in the next half hour. Be much appreciated đ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Traf said: Someone will post the Championship away allocations in the next half hour. https://footballgroundguide.com/ there you go it's like razzle for a few on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 11, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2023 be another stampede for Luton away first day of next season if they don't come up with something over the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I would think Luton will be the only problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Regardless of what division itâs good practice imo Yes bigger allocations but you might get a cup draw which may require points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsta69 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) Iâve been to 13 aways 14 if you include Wembley this season including the long trips to Plymouth,Exeter,FGR,Charlton,Bristol Rovers and Ipswich. Does that make me a better supporter than anyone else I donât think it does. My mate has away ST but 1 I donât/canât go to all the away games and 2 I canât afford an away ST to go with the home one I have. My daughter lives in London so have done the games down south with her. She doesnât have a ST so use a mates CRN to get her a ticket. I know a mate who is a Sheff Weds fan and he has no problems getting away tickets with their system in place. He hasnât missed a home or away game since mid 90âs. Iâve managed to get away tickets for everyone I wanted to go to except Accrington away in SF Papa Johnâs. Itâs a difficult one to keep everyone happy. Edited May 11, 2023 by kevsta69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I just dont understand the opposition to a loyalty / points system, its very strange. Seems to be ones with sob stories that dont go much, trying to justify how importanat they still are, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Howfen Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I think a loyalty scheme is inevitable. Out of the clubs not currently utilising some form of points system Iâd be surprised if we wasnât the club with the largest supporter base.  The difficult decision is how they launch the points system. Everyone start from scratch or use historical purchase data. People are going to (understandably) lose their shit regardless as itâs impossible to please all.  If from scratch that punishes those who have genuinely been loyal over the years. If using historical purchase data, then how do they prove this? I know Iâve been to away games and not assigned tickets, used other CRNâs etc - absolute minefield for the club.  Personally I think starting from scratch would be the fairest way. Level playing field for all at the start. It will only take 4 or 5 away games for the hardcore to pick up the points at the start of next season then they are in the driving seat for the popular gamesâŚ. The TO will just have to hope the fixture computer is kind to them in those early games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 This is how we do it, ST Plus away creds within THAT season. Â 22/23 STH with 20 credits from the 22/23 season from Wednesday 3rd May at 10.00am 22/23 STH with 16+ credits from the 22/23 season from Wednesday 3rd May at 2.00pm 22/23 STH with 12+ credits from the 22/23 season from Thursday 4th May at 10.00am *22/23 STH with 8+ credits from the 22/23 season from Thursday 4th May at 2.00pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsta69 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pablo said: This is how we do it, ST Plus away creds within THAT season. Â 22/23 STH with 20 credits from the 22/23 season from Wednesday 3rd May at 10.00am 22/23 STH with 16+ credits from the 22/23 season from Wednesday 3rd May at 2.00pm 22/23 STH with 12+ credits from the 22/23 season from Thursday 4th May at 10.00am *22/23 STH with 8+ credits from the 22/23 season from Thursday 4th May at 2.00pm Is a credit for each away game attended mate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, kevsta69 said: Is a credit for each away game attended mate ? 1 credit = 1 away ticket purchased. Issue with that, is fans will buy the ticket for the credit, not go or sell it on, but obviously keep that credit. Thats what its like in the supporters clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 All good in theory but as said many times there will be season ticket holders whose records show they've attended most away games ... but in reality they haven't actually been to any. It's just that their CRN has been used for a mate, a mate of a mate, etc. I'm not sure there's a way of ever getting round this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 True, buts letâs start assigning to the right age group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: True, buts letâs start assigning to the right age group Absolutely. That shouldn't be difficult for them to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, Pablo said: I just dont understand the opposition to a loyalty / points system, its very strange. Seems to be ones with sob stories that dont go much, trying to justify how importanat they still are, Too many people can get tickets via the bakc door / on the take at bwfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, Big E said: Too many people can get tickets via the bakc door / on the take at bwfc Thats becasue you have so many avaialble, if you ended up with massive amounts wanting tickets for every game, these back-channels would stop or become fewer and further between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Call it a priority scheme as that is what it is. As soon as it is called 'loyalty' it becomes a pissing contest.  I do about 75% of aways so would not be top of the list but I missed out in every game where there has been limited availability.  Season Ticket holders have to top of the list but those with more points before those with 0 points.  I have no idea why people who oppose a scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 11, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, DazBob said: All good in theory but as said many times there will be season ticket holders whose records show they've attended most away games ... but in reality they haven't actually been to any. It's just that their CRN has been used for a mate, a mate of a mate, etc. I'm not sure there's a way of ever getting round this. be pretty much impossible to do anything about that if they're buying away tickets, they're buying away tickets, and that's it as pablo just said, fans will buy tickets and sell them on - am sure that's prevalent at clubs with big followings week in week out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Before the digital age, we used to stick all away stubs in a big folded poster type thing supplied by the club. For each away game ticket purchased, the box office staff would count and tick each stub for each ticket wanted, and write which game it was used for. For Derby games you had to send this book off for postal ballots only.....imagine losing that in the mail.... With my dad being a postie, he would go and get all ours on one of his rounds 𤣠Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebles Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Horwich said: They do it because its fairer than the current system. A brand new season ticket holder, who bought a kids season ticket and has never been to a home game, could get a ticket ahead of someone who has attended loads of home and aways this season. Plus, I'm a ST Holder (2) who only goes to the odd local away game these days. No plans to go to Barnsley but I have friends, who aren't even ST holders, asking if I can get them one. It works against me personally but I think it's the right thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, DazBob said: All good in theory but as said many times there will be season ticket holders whose records show they've attended most away games ... but in reality they haven't actually been to any. It's just that their CRN has been used for a mate, a mate of a mate, etc. I'm not sure there's a way of ever getting round this. Clubs like United have had a black market built on this kind of stuff for decades. Like you say theres nothing you can do bar photo ID.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 11, 2023 It should be a ballot for ST holders when over subscribed. The only fair way. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Spider said: It should be a ballot for ST holders when over subscribed. The only fair way. Â If its as bent as who wins lifeline every week, no thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, gonzo said: If its as bent as who wins lifeline every week, no thanks Bribes are the way forward. It means the proper fans will be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 All right that lifelineđ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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