Edited May 11, 20233 yr by globaldiver

47 minutes ago, Zico said:

where to being

we;ve been here before

but ok, to address those points directly

website maintenance and devlopment - £5,509 or £458 per month

steep

1) it runs on a 3rd party platform which should be costing between $99 and $199 a year
https://www.joomlatools.com/pricing

2) it's hosted by these guys - I'd be surprised if they needed anything more than the business package at £28 a month
https://www.memset.com/services/cloud-vps/

dedicated servers are £100ish a month but I can see they are definitely on a shared server, so wil be one of those packges

between the two services above, that takes care of security and functionality, other than pressing a button like I do on here when this site needs upgrading, to kick off an upgrade process

3) GDPR

there is no cost assocated with GDPR

you put a privacy policy on your site, and that's it, they have one here:
https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/privacy-policy

they could if they choose to put a cookiebot on their site to help automate the accepting and blocking of cookies (like those banners you see when you visit a website, asking for your consent) - they cost around £10 month

but they don't have one

4) costs associted with website support - see point 1 & 2 - that should cover that

5) zoom costs £14 a month

 

they have to pay someone to keep on top of it, but it doesn't take much effort based on the volume of social media updates

they've done 4 blog posts this year

 

so IMO someone somewhere is taking the piss

they're either aware of this, and try to justify it with the above, where I imagine most people would accept that at face value

or they aren't, and someone is fleecing them, but that would suggest to me that they haven't shopped around for support / services and given the gig to the first person they spoke to, or that someone convinced them this is what it costs

No no no. They are in it for them good of fans and the club. Not screwing it. It just can’t happen with such an open and honest bunch

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

£24k for a twitter account?

social media management is a full time gig - including creation of assets. I'd say that was pretty cheap

47 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

social media management is a full time gig - including creation of assets. I'd say that was pretty cheap

If we were talking about the official club SM management you would have a valid point 

Looking at their SM presence then 24k is a massive price to pay for retweeting 

1 minute ago, Zico said:

If we were talking about the official club am management you would have a valid point 

Looking at their SM presence then 24k is a massive price to pay for retweeting 

Is it not across all platforms though and asset creation plus strategy?

I don't know - they seem across all platforms, assets and interviews are good. As I say, I think that's pretty cheap to get an agency to manage across their channels.

 

20 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Is it not across all platforms though and asset creation plus strategy?

I don't know - they seem across all platforms, assets and interviews are good. As I say, I think that's pretty cheap to get an agency to manage across their channels.

 

I think you're getting the Supporters Trust and club mixed up  

We're talking about the ST

They don't do interviews 

They haven't done a video in over a year 

https://youtube.com/@BoltonWanderersSupportersTrust

2 hours ago, Zico said:

I think you're getting the Supporters Trust and club mixed up  

We're talking about the ST

They don't do interviews 

They haven't done a video in over a year 

https://youtube.com/@BoltonWanderersSupportersTrust

Ah right - yes I am. Thought is was cheap. Now looks quite pricey!

Just to say ... "good work Neil Hart".

I saw in Sharon’s note yesterday that there was just shy of 1,000 investors in the bond. Not a bad number given minimum of £500 per bond.

8.5% p/a is looking a good deal for the club. I wonder how much money they’d be paying out for a third party commercial loan with interest rates as they are.

1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said:

I saw in Sharon’s note yesterday that there was just shy of 1,000 investors in the bond. Not a bad number given minimum of £500 per bond.

8.5% p/a is looking a good deal for the club. I wonder how much money they’d be paying out for a third party commercial loan with interest rates as they are.

Think WBA were used as a case reference and it was over 16% iirc correctly.

On 10/07/2023 at 15:18, BeeversLeftPeg said:

anything spent yet?

I wasn't at the first 2 home games, any of the improvements happened that were promised?

5 minutes ago, L/H White said:

anything spent yet?

I wasn't at the first 2 home games, any of the improvements happened that were promised?

No. Supposed to be done in time for the Derby game on 2nd September.

big day for bonders next weekend 

10% bonus is it?

28 minutes ago, L/H White said:

big day for bonders next weekend 

10% bonus is it?

Aye, would be a good 18% return for the year.

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

big day for bonders next weekend 

10% bonus is it?

👍

The bond administration team will be working out whether or not promotion is financially viable. 😃

On 09/05/2024 at 22:57, MickyD said:

The bond administration team will be working out whether or not promotion is financially viable. 😃

& then Sharon will do a Gartside

"We can't afford to go up"

Saturday's team will be picked by Nick Luckock

👀

On 11/05/2024 at 13:07, BOWTUN BAKED said:

& then Sharon will do a Gartside

"We can't afford to go up"

 

Son in Law 

just said he had been paid the  

Interest for this year 

2 hours ago, little whitt said:

Son in Law 

just said he had been paid the  

Interest for this year 

Yes, gets paid on 30 June or 1 July.

11 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Yes, gets paid on 30 June or 1 July.

All received.  Cracking interest rate.  Club must be skint now 😀

Last year bond holders got 2 free tickets for any game. Does anyone know if that was a one off or if its meant to be every season for the length of the bond?

8 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Last year bond holders got 2 free tickets for any game. Does anyone know if that was a one off or if its meant to be every season for the length of the bond?

Just checked this.  It says each season, which is a surprise to me.  Glad you asked.

 

	Investor Privileges As well as annual interest payments and the possibility of an additional Championship Bonus, a unique set of exclusive investor privileges are being offered with the Wanderers Bonds at different investment levels.