Moderators Zico Posted July 7 Moderators Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Traf said: Come on, @Zico, let's hear your take on items 3 & 4 where to being we;ve been here before but ok, to address those points directly website maintenance and devlopment - £5,509 or £458 per month steep 1) it runs on a 3rd party platform which should be costing between $99 and $199 a year https://www.joomlatools.com/pricing 2) it's hosted by these guys - I'd be surprised if they needed anything more than the business package at £28 a month https://www.memset.com/services/cloud-vps/ dedicated servers are £100ish a month but I can see they are definitely on a shared server, so wil be one of those packges between the two services above, that takes care of security and functionality, other than pressing a button like I do on here when this site needs upgrading, to kick off an upgrade process 3) GDPR there is no cost assocated with GDPR you put a privacy policy on your site, and that's it, they have one here: https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/privacy-policy they could if they choose to put a cookiebot on their site to help automate the accepting and blocking of cookies (like those banners you see when you visit a website, asking for your consent) - they cost around £10 month but they don't have one 4) costs associted with website support - see point 1 & 2 - that should cover that 5) zoom costs £14 a month they have to pay someone to keep on top of it, but it doesn't take much effort based on the volume of social media updates they've done 4 blog posts this year so IMO someone somewhere is taking the piss they're either aware of this, and try to justify it with the above, where I imagine most people would accept that at face value or they aren't, and someone is fleecing them, but that would suggest to me that they haven't shopped around for support / services and given the gig to the first person they spoke to, or that someone convinced them this is what it costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 47 minutes ago, Zico said: where to being we;ve been here before but ok, to address those points directly website maintenance and devlopment - £5,509 or £458 per month steep 1) it runs on a 3rd party platform which should be costing between $99 and $199 a year https://www.joomlatools.com/pricing 2) it's hosted by these guys - I'd be surprised if they needed anything more than the business package at £28 a month https://www.memset.com/services/cloud-vps/ dedicated servers are £100ish a month but I can see they are definitely on a shared server, so wil be one of those packges between the two services above, that takes care of security and functionality, other than pressing a button like I do on here when this site needs upgrading, to kick off an upgrade process 3) GDPR there is no cost assocated with GDPR you put a privacy policy on your site, and that's it, they have one here: https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/privacy-policy they could if they choose to put a cookiebot on their site to help automate the accepting and blocking of cookies (like those banners you see when you visit a website, asking for your consent) - they cost around £10 month but they don't have one 4) costs associted with website support - see point 1 & 2 - that should cover that 5) zoom costs £14 a month they have to pay someone to keep on top of it, but it doesn't take much effort based on the volume of social media updates they've done 4 blog posts this year so IMO someone somewhere is taking the piss they're either aware of this, and try to justify it with the above, where I imagine most people would accept that at face value or they aren't, and someone is fleecing them, but that would suggest to me that they haven't shopped around for support / services and given the gig to the first person they spoke to, or that someone convinced them this is what it costs No no no. They are in it for them good of fans and the club. Not screwing it. It just can’t happen with such an open and honest bunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, gonzo said: £24k for a twitter account? social media management is a full time gig - including creation of assets. I'd say that was pretty cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 7 Moderators Share Posted July 7 47 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: social media management is a full time gig - including creation of assets. I'd say that was pretty cheap If we were talking about the official club SM management you would have a valid point Looking at their SM presence then 24k is a massive price to pay for retweeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, Zico said: If we were talking about the official club am management you would have a valid point Looking at their SM presence then 24k is a massive price to pay for retweeting Is it not across all platforms though and asset creation plus strategy? I don't know - they seem across all platforms, assets and interviews are good. As I say, I think that's pretty cheap to get an agency to manage across their channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 7 Moderators Share Posted July 7 20 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Is it not across all platforms though and asset creation plus strategy? I don't know - they seem across all platforms, assets and interviews are good. As I say, I think that's pretty cheap to get an agency to manage across their channels. I think you're getting the Supporters Trust and club mixed up We're talking about the ST They don't do interviews They haven't done a video in over a year https://youtube.com/@BoltonWanderersSupportersTrust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, Zico said: I think you're getting the Supporters Trust and club mixed up We're talking about the ST They don't do interviews They haven't done a video in over a year https://youtube.com/@BoltonWanderersSupportersTrust Ah right - yes I am. Thought is was cheap. Now looks quite pricey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr. Feelgood Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just to say ... "good work Neil Hart". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 I saw in Sharon’s note yesterday that there was just shy of 1,000 investors in the bond. Not a bad number given minimum of £500 per bond. 8.5% p/a is looking a good deal for the club. I wonder how much money they’d be paying out for a third party commercial loan with interest rates as they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said: I saw in Sharon’s note yesterday that there was just shy of 1,000 investors in the bond. Not a bad number given minimum of £500 per bond. 8.5% p/a is looking a good deal for the club. I wonder how much money they’d be paying out for a third party commercial loan with interest rates as they are. Think WBA were used as a case reference and it was over 16% iirc correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 On 10/07/2023 at 15:18, BeeversLeftPeg said: anything spent yet? I wasn't at the first 2 home games, any of the improvements happened that were promised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted August 14 Site Supporter Share Posted August 14 5 minutes ago, L/H White said: anything spent yet? I wasn't at the first 2 home games, any of the improvements happened that were promised? No. Supposed to be done in time for the Derby game on 2nd September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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