October 14, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, gonzo said: We currently have the elite in our team. Absolute top line, cant get any higher elite. Treble winners, Real Madrid and future ballon dor winners. Gazza was ace as he stood out in a completely shit generation on the back of a club ban in Europe. Hes an icon, a cult figure, tortured genius. But never in a million years the level we have now in Foden and Bellingham. Every player who's played with Foden and every manager says hes the most talented on the ball kid theyve ever seen. You cant have a career on what ifs. You've got to do it to be the best. Spot on this father
October 14, 20232 yr 45 minutes ago, tomski said: Absolute Myth. 😂 Why they used to make all them made up statements from Works greats saying Scholes was the best. Crap for England as well. Not even close Up there with blokes that used to fancy Philipa Forrester ‘as thinking man’s totty’ haha You need to get over it pal😀
October 14, 20232 yr Just now, radcliffe white said: You need to get over it pal😀 Never. Wankers to a man. That said. This sidesteps this. Scholes will be remembered for licking his daughters toes
October 14, 20232 yr The whole 'can't tackle' thing was bollocks too. There's a difference between not being able to tackle and being a dirty ginger cunt.
October 14, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, gonzo said: We currently have the elite in our team. Absolute top line, cant get any higher elite. Treble winners, Real Madrid and future ballon dor winners. Gazza was ace as he stood out in a completely shit generation on the back of a club ban in Europe. Hes an icon, a cult figure, tortured genius. But never in a million years the level we have now in Foden and Bellingham. Every player who's played with Foden and every manager says hes the most talented on the ball kid theyve ever seen. You cant have a career on what ifs. You've got to do it to be the best. Completely shit generation? Robson when injury free, Beardsley, John Barnes, Waddle, Lineker..... and the best of the lot... Glenn Hoddle ( light years ahead of Maddison and his like), unfortunately it was a time when it was 442 & square pegs in round holes & elite talents weren't trusted..... We've seen with the new generation how they can be hampered by poor management.
October 14, 20232 yr I never quite 'got' Gazzer. Obviously very capable, but not so much dim as psychologically disturbed. Reading & hearing of him he sounds a sweet kid, seeking acceptance and very funny in a rather annoying way. Easily led & a bit needy. A lost talent really, because he could have been one of the greats but his temperament meant he never quite made it.
October 14, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, gonzo said: We currently have the elite in our team. Absolute top line, cant get any higher elite. Treble winners, Real Madrid and future ballon dor winners. Gazza was ace as he stood out in a completely shit generation on the back of a club ban in Europe. Hes an icon, a cult figure, tortured genius. But never in a million years the level we have now in Foden and Bellingham. Every player who's played with Foden and every manager says hes the most talented on the ball kid theyve ever seen. You cant have a career on what ifs. You've got to do it to be the best. Good enough to be wanted by Lazio. The most prestigious league in Europe at that time. By using your argument, if that's what we call it, you're going down the road of saying that Pele, Maradona, Puskas & Finney were rubbish if you put them up against today's top talent.
October 14, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, DazBob said: The whole 'can't tackle' thing was bollocks too. There's a difference between not being able to tackle and being a dirty ginger cunt. Spot on He was always a snidey fucker
October 14, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, desperado said: was taking us to places we never thought was possible as an Englishman. Where was that then?
October 14, 20232 yr Crazy really that now a semi would be seen as Southgate out! But back then we’d had the quarter in 86, but everything else was failure. And that semi could and should have been a lot more
October 14, 20232 yr 23 hours ago, tomski said: Never the same after the 91 cup final. Before then, One of the best ever. His performances in the run to the final were top drawer At least in my mind
October 14, 20232 yr 22 minutes ago, Casino said: His performances in the run to the final were top drawer At least in my mind Yep. He was incredible. Arsenal in semis and sure a televised performance against Man City. Might be wrong.
October 14, 20232 yr 59 minutes ago, desperado said: Semi final of a World Cup! 🤣 Spose if you'd forgotten about the last one then fair enough
October 14, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, Underpants said: Good enough to be wanted by Lazio. The most prestigious league in Europe at that time. By using your argument, if that's what we call it, you're going down the road of saying that Pele, Maradona, Puskas & Finney were rubbish if you put them up against today's top talent. By using your argument, if that's what we call it, you're going down the road of saying Gazza is in the same bracket of those you mention. Absolute horseshit.
October 14, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Completely shit generation? Robson when injury free, Beardsley, John Barnes, Waddle, Lineker..... and the best of the lot... Glenn Hoddle ( light years ahead of Maddison and his like), unfortunately it was a time when it was 442 & square pegs in round holes & elite talents weren't trusted..... We've seen with the new generation how they can be hampered by poor management. Good old rose tinted specs eh Edited October 14, 20232 yr by gonzo
October 14, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Casino said: His performances in the run to the final were top drawer At least in my mind I was a big Gazza fan for elevating the game from the doldrums of the 80s almost single handedly at times, but that FA Cup run pre-semi was 4 games v Blackpool, Oxford, Pompey and Notts County! It probably helped in them days that we only ever saw highlights, just the best moments and Gazza had a lot of those.
October 14, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Zico said: Spose if you'd forgotten about the last one then fair enough I wasn’t even born in 66! Cant forget something you weren’t there for! 🤣 70 - quarter 74-Not there 78 - Not there 82- 2nd group stage 86 - quarter
October 14, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, gonzo said: Good old rose tinted specs eh Rose tinted specs would say Bobby Robson was a good England manager when in fact only another injury to a half fit Robson & a Wilkins sending off shaped 86 & in 90 player power led to Mark Wright playing in a back three. Let's have a bit of balance here, today's lot have come up short in knock out football against any quality team they've played..... Hopefully that will change.
October 15, 20232 yr Loved Gazza, he was like a breath of fresh air after the likes of Robson,Wilkins etc, he offered something a bit different. If he hadn’t cut his toenails we’d have won Euro ‘96.
October 15, 20232 yr Another 'opinion' thread. Scholes and Gazza were absolutely brilliant in England shirts for my money. Comparison with players from Southgate's virtue signallers are as futile as comparisons with Stanley Matthews, Tom Finney and Nat Lofthouse. Different era's. I know one thing - I would much rather watch the five players mentioned in their era's than todays overpaid and over rated automotons. It's like fucking chess these days.
October 15, 20232 yr 12 hours ago, gonzo said: By using your argument, if that's what we call it, you're going down the road of saying Gazza is in the same bracket of those you mention. Absolute horseshit. Fair enough. I concede. Gazza was no better than Carlton Palmer.
October 15, 20232 yr Different eras are pointless comparing. Current crop wouldn’t of made it then for being too soft and being laughed at for not supping. Agree on the heroes of yesteryear looking ordinary now too as it’s evolved. Always used to watch clips of 50/60/70’s teams and used to think how shit it looked but in reality those chaps had different attributes.
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