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Meanwhile In Haiti


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mental what is going on there, and it's been going on a while

it's basically the gang equivalent of marshall law

mass jailbreaks, gangs running riot

is there anything any outside force / country can do about it?

or do we just sit back and watch?

 

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Nigeria were supposed to be organising a UN peace keeping mission, but the President in exile managed to make a mess of the agreement. 

US and others are calling for the President to stand down which might alleviate tensions, at least a little. 

The problem is how to intervene without appearing to be a colonial power. Which is maybe why the Nigeria plan was appealing. 

You're right though - it's an absolute nightmare.

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Remember Gaddafi? Remember Saddam? Bashar al Assad in Syria.

Strong leaders keeping their undesirables down by understanding intimately who they were dealing with. We got involved in dismantling two of those regimes which resulted in ISIS and other horrors being unleashed. Ignore the wokes and the lace handkerchief brigade. Their weak stomachs are behind much which is now wrong in the world including the belligerence of latter day Hitlers in the East.

Papa Doc and Baby Doc kept control of Haiti for a quarter of a century with the delightfully named Tonton Macoute and a reliance on how petrified of Voodoo the population were. Murderous bastards as they were, very few stepped out of line and order was maintained.

At least our good friend Dom Rep is on the correct side of the border.

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15 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Remember Gaddafi? Remember Saddam? Bashar al Assad in Syria.

Strong leaders keeping their undesirables down by understanding intimately who they were dealing with. We got involved in dismantling two of those regimes which resulted in ISIS and other horrors being unleashed. Ignore the wokes and the lace handkerchief brigade. Their weak stomachs are behind much which is now wrong in the world including the belligerence of latter day Hitlers in the East.

Papa Doc and Baby Doc kept control of Haiti for a quarter of a century with the delightfully named Tonton Macoute and a reliance on how petrified of Voodoo the population were. Murderous bastards as they were, very few stepped out of line and order was maintained.

At least our good friend Dom Rep is on the correct side of the border.

so what's changed?

a quick read tells me a president was assinanted a few years back, and the current one is going to step down

and now we have gangs running all over the place in scenes compared to Mad Max

I'm not saying "we" get involved, but it seems they are lacking strong leadership to keep the undesirables down and that is no longer an option anyway, it appeers to have already been dismantled by the locals

so not sure what is supposed to happen next

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20 hours ago, Zico said:

so what's changed?

a quick read tells me a president was assinanted a few years back, and the current one is going to step down

and now we have gangs running all over the place in scenes compared to Mad Max

I'm not saying "we" get involved, but it seems they are lacking strong leadership to keep the undesirables down and that is no longer an option anyway, it appeers to have already been dismantled by the locals

so not sure what is supposed to happen next

International force has to go in. Bloodbath (thank you Donald in using this word about the US car industry and the threat from Mexican manufacture) follows. Thugs wiped out. Start again.

They probably couldn't have anything Duvallieresque these days. A woke world would be weeping in it's Kleenex.

Now then, 'assinanted'? I'll bet that hurts ;)

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You would think with it sharing an island with a huge tourist destination, that the world ‘might’ have a vested interest in it calming down.

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On 19/03/2024 at 11:47, bolty58 said:

Remember Gaddafi? Remember Saddam? Bashar al Assad in Syria.

Strong leaders keeping their undesirables down by understanding intimately who they were dealing with. We got involved in dismantling two of those regimes which resulted in ISIS and other horrors being unleashed. Ignore the wokes and the lace handkerchief brigade. Their weak stomachs are behind much which is now wrong in the world including the belligerence of latter day Hitlers in the East.

Papa Doc and Baby Doc kept control of Haiti for a quarter of a century with the delightfully named Tonton Macoute and a reliance on how petrified of Voodoo the population were. Murderous bastards as they were, very few stepped out of line and order was maintained.

At least our good friend Dom Rep is on the correct side of the border.

Pretty sure that the wokes were protesting against the war in Iraq ….

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