Barnsley (A)

[athywhite1958]

9 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

The staggering sorts it, really. Even if you get booted out, you know there’s enough to go round that you can go back in and do it again on a different card etc (the NatWest problem reared its head again) as long as you do it without your window. 

It’ll depend on whether you’ve got the grandkids on a ‘managed’ level in your account which tbf the club did mention in the release. Just done ours and it was an absolute breeze. OAP one is odd though as I’ve got a kids one that was reserved at the right price (and ironically needs upgrading)

I do have the right to assign tickets for then as i have done for cup games previously, we've got them and that is all that matters

[only1swanny]

Can't get tickets online, 

 

apparently I am attempting to buy more tickets than I am allowed to.. I have 4 season tickets.. I'm trying to buy 4 tickets.. 

 

You would think with tickets going on sale at 5pm, they would have people on hand to sell them!

 

[gonzo]

4 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Can't get tickets online, 

 

apparently I am attempting to buy more tickets than I am allowed to.. I have 4 season tickets.. I'm trying to buy 4 tickets.. 

 

You would think with tickets going on sale at 5pm, they would have people on hand to sell them!

 

Are any kids tickets?

 

They may have the same client ref as yours. It counts as one.

 

[only1swanny]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Are any kids tickets?

 

They may have the same client ref as yours. It counts as one.

 

farce of a system, I've tried playing around with the allocate ticket thing. They've messed it up a few times and had to go in to renew all 4 rather than online etc. 

 

Asking my wife to see if she can purchase with her sign on. 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, DazBob said:

I know someone who went to Barnsley in the play-offs last season.  It was his first away game for over 2 years.  

Plenty of folk put in the hard yards last season and barely missed a game, home and away, but couldn't get a ticket.

Do you think that's right?

 

I only go to a handful of aways each season and I don't think it's right that I have the same chance of getting a ticket as someone who goes to pretty much every away game.

He didn't claim it was.

His point was how do folk get up the ladder, when it's already a bit of a closed shop?

A fair point, and perhaps a function of being in a lower league with a good number of small away ends.

There isn't a simple and fair solution, but the current one certainly isn't the answer 

A loyalty scheme is probably the fairest way, but do it in such a way as you buy your ticket online, but just one or two per transaction.

Those cunts who have been outed as getting tickets and then trying to flog them, sometimes for inflated prices, should lose all priority and start at the bottom.

 

[barrycowdrill]

Amazes me how the Ticketmaster system crashes with the volume trying to get our tickets but it’s perfectly fine when hundreds of thousands are trying to get gig tickets? Are we on the iPhone 3 version while they’re on the 14 or something?

[radcliffe white]

11 hours ago, desperado said:

Spot on there and  @Biggish Dave.

If those like me are banging on about Evatt being the right man and consistency, sustainability and loyalty being big factors in the game, then regardless of who their manager is, we should have a massive edge on this front.

In fact, (unlike me to put too much gravitas on one game (tie) for the manager,) these Barnsley games are a crucial point in time for Evatt.

If he doesn’t show we are better than Barnsley, then it’s fair game to question whether we have made progress this season.

Thats why @radcliffe white I’m not claiming my bet yet, as it would feel very hollow finishing ahead of Barnsley but losing in the play-offs!

Anyway it ain’t happening.

The whites will be on their way to Wembley… again  and Radcliffe will   get me a pint in the sunshine 👏

Nah fairs fair it was a league position bet, gladly buy you one next time I see you mate 

[Zico]

19 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

Amazes me how the Ticketmaster system crashes with the volume trying to get our tickets but it’s perfectly fine when hundreds of thousands are trying to get gig tickets? Are we on the iPhone 3 version while they’re on the 14 or something?

It's all relative 

They'll no doubt load balance servers and introduce extra band width for events with massive demand 

But you still get the same outcome when folk are trying to buy Peter Kay tickets at the same time 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/breaking-peter-kay-fans-moan-28472325?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

[radcliffe white]

Also hearing that after deductions 1450 went on sale 

[desperado]

2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I don't "deserve" to get away tickets, as I choose not to put the hard miles in on a Tuesday in Cambridge etc, but I would definitely have been at Barnsley if I could have (I didn't try - working).  If they introduce a priority system from day 1 next season, and we get an allocation of 1,800 at Wrexham or Huddersfield, who goes to the front of the queue?  I could get a ticket, then I'm 1 up on someone like @desperado.  Then its Blackpool away 2 weeks later and I can get that too because I'm now classed as "loyal".  Just wondering how we think initial priority would be established.  

Cheers pal 👍 

The system is shit. Missed out last year. Sorted this year. 

Shouldn't be a lottery for those who have put the miles in

[Zico]

Having thought about it I can only assume we don't do a priority scheme because we do away season tickets 

Away STs make money 

Priority scheme don't

And if you have a priority scheme you don't sell as many away STs

[desperado]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

Having thought about it I can only assume we don't do a priority scheme because we do away season tickets 

Away STs make money 

Priority scheme don't

And if you have a priority scheme you don't sell as many away STs

You can do both can't you?

[DirtySanchez]

3 hours ago, Casino said:

easily sell 3 or 4 of them

anyway, point is, i think we need to close down the loopholes

should stop folk selling on tickets

and sort out the platform

How do you stop folk selling them on?

Take Peterborough on Saturday as an example, got it as QR code 

Could have given it to anyone if I couldn't have been arsed going 

Could have screenshot it anyone who wanted it

[Leyther_Matt]

Just now, Zico said:

Having thought about it I can only assume we don't do a priority scheme because we do away season tickets 

Away STs make money 

Priority scheme don't

And if you have a priority scheme you don't sell as many away STs

The revenue from the away ST is lost several times over with costs from card transactions and posting tickets out (the ticket system costs too but I always consider that to be budgeted). Certainly not a money maker with 300 on it any more than it was for the years it had 30 people from coach 1 on it.

However I do agree that we won’t have a priority scheme for as long as a publicly-available away scheme is in place. The club see that as doing their bit to look after regular travellers whilst not really taking in to account those who do 10, 15, 20 away games.

[Zico]

Just now, desperado said:

You can do both can't you?

No idea 

I'm just trying to think of a valid reason why we don't have a priority scheme when other clubs in this league on the same platform do and when there's been a valid reason for having one for a few seasons now

[Leyther_Matt]

Just now, DirtySanchez said:

How do you stop folk selling them on?

Take Peterborough on Saturday as an example, got it as QR code 

Could have given it to anyone if I couldn't have been arsed going 

Could have screenshot it anyone who wanted it

It can be done. ID checks on tickets, tickets to be collected in-person at the away ground etc. 

For what it costs, there’s a reason it is only done by Utd, Liverpool and the FA & SFA, and even then it’s because they feel they’re missing out on revenue to touts.  

[Rival Son]

2 hours ago, MickyD said:

Unbroken length of ST holder

This might sound crazy, but that might be deemed age discriminatory!

I’m pretty sure you no longer put things like “10 years experience required” on a job advertisement. It’s pretty much the same thing.

[DirtySanchez]

1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said:

It can be done. ID checks on tickets, tickets to be collected in-person at the away ground etc. 

For what it costs, there’s a reason it is only done by Utd, Liverpool and the FA & SFA, and even then it’s because they feel they’re missing out on revenue to touts.  

All well and good but can't see Stevenage putting all that in place 

Imagine having away fans pick up tickets at Wigan, it would be chaos

[tomski]

4 hours ago, DazBob said:

I know someone who went to Barnsley in the play-offs last season.  It was his first away game for over 2 years.  

Plenty of folk put in the hard yards last season and barely missed a game, home and away, but couldn't get a ticket.

Do you think that's right?

 

I only go to a handful of aways each season and I don't think it's right that I have the same chance of getting a ticket as someone who goes to pretty much every away game.

Good point raised. Interesting as I have only done 4 aways this year but in our ten year slump was away almost everywhere. 200 millwall Xmas friday etc and Sunderland replay, 1k at Blackpool under hill. Lots will have stories like this. Whilst I’m not special if I get a ticket I am not feeling guilty. 

I’d want everyone sorted who put the hard yards in currently as it’s right but if I’m getting a ticket I’m going.

Just let’s get out of this league and it will be a thing of the past.
 

[Zico]

2 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

The revenue from the away ST is lost several times over with costs from card transactions and posting tickets out (the ticket system costs too but I always consider that to be budgeted). Certainly not a money maker with 300 on it any more than it was for the years it had 30 people from coach 1 on it.

However I do agree that we won’t have a priority scheme for as long as a publicly-available away scheme is in place. The club see that as doing their bit to look after regular travellers whilst not really taking in to account those who do 10, 15, 20 away games.

What's mad is we used to have a priority scheme when everything was offline, done manually, with vouchers and postal applications 

And now it's all online and can be automated, we don't 

Would just really like to know why we don't 

I assume it's financial

Even if it's the cost of turning the functionality on via upgrading your ticket distribution package or something 

[barrycowdrill]

Away scheme is £20 isn’t it? Then the price of the tickets go to the home side anyway? So the club made 7 grand out of it this year? 
 

take that 350 out of the equation and there then should still be a process whereby you rack up points. They categorise home games easy enough for pricing so why not away games? Tues night at Wycombe = 3 loyalty points v’s a sat game at Wigan = 1 etc etc 

[Leyther_Matt]

9 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

All well and good but can't see Stevenage putting all that in place 

Imagine having away fans pick up tickets at Wigan, it would be chaos

Utd and Liverpool send their own staff to do it. Like I said though, they only do it because they’re aggrieved at missing out on cash from touting. Not an issue for us and not really an applicable situation in reality. Building up individual history does tend to work well though as, if you were playing the system, you’re not going to find a buyer for Pompey away on a Monday given the person attending will be wanting their own points as well. 

5 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

Away scheme is £20 isn’t it? Then the price of the tickets go to the home side anyway? So the club made 7 grand out of it this year? 
 

take that 350 out of the equation and there then should still be a process whereby you rack up points. They categorise home games easy enough for pricing so why not away games? Tues night at Wycombe = 3 loyalty points v’s a sat game at Wigan = 1 etc etc 

7 grand less VAT less god knows how much in card fees and postal costs, whilst not getting the quid a ticket they get from everyone else. Not exactly a money spinner. 

[DirtySanchez]

3 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Utd and Liverpool send their own staff to do it. Like I said though, they only do it because they’re aggrieved at missing out on cash from touting. Not an issue for us and not really an applicable situation in reality. Building up individual history does tend to work well though as, if you were playing the system, you’re not going to find a buyer for Pompey away on a Monday given the person attending will be wanting their own points as well. 

7 grand less VAT less god knows how much in card fees and postal costs, whilst not getting the quid a ticket they get from everyone else. Not exactly a money spinner. 

If the person buying it is a southern non st holder they might 😉

[desperado]

Oh and I will throw in again for good measure the “agreement” on 2k away tickets with 4k+ empty seats is fucking ridiculous 

[SatanGreavsie]

3 minutes ago, desperado said:

Oh and I will throw in again for good measure the “agreement” on 2k away tickets with 4k+ empty seats is fucking ridiculous 

That's what does for me. They should be made to sell all seats not allocated to home fans. OK, we might not sell out the South stand lower, but at least it has the potential to. But to leave seats deliberately empty is shite. Even some of Barnsleyways agree. What other "industry" fails to sell to customers ready to part with their coin?