This flying of flags malarkey

[frank_spencer]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Simply too many of them, and the level of disability/age that qualifies is bizarre. 

Over 20% of new cars are purchased on this scheme.

Free servicing, tax and tyres.

My brother worked in car sales for a good while, decades ago, and he saw plenty of ridiculous cases. 

Been going on for years.

FYI motabilty cars aren't purchased you surrender your mobility component of your PIP/DLA/attendants allowance/war pension to lease it from the manufacturer/dealership. to qualify you need the high rate of mobility on your claim which is incredibly hard to get, one of our friends needed a letter from her doctor to confirm her amputated leg was a permanent condition.

When the RAC come pick up your broken down car they take it to the nearest manufacturer service to your home. So when mine broke in July it was taken to Renault Bolton

[BobyBrno]

10 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

FYI motabilty cars aren't purchased you surrender your mobility component of your PIP/DLA/attendants allowance/war pension to lease it from the manufacturer/dealership. to qualify you need the high rate of mobility on your claim which is incredibly hard to get, one of our friends needed a letter from her doctor to confirm her amputated leg was a permanent condition.

When the RAC come pick up your broken down car they take it to the nearest manufacturer service to your home. So when mine broke in July it was taken to Renault Bolton

The 20% is cars purchased for the motability scheme not purchased by users. 

 

[only1swanny]

13 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

 

When the RAC come pick up your broken down car they take it to the nearest manufacturer service to your home. So when mine broke in July it was taken to Renault Bolton

I must have imagined all those drives then.. 

Nearest available and suitable...

If you have a standard car then it's pretty straight forward,  any mods and it'd gotta go to a specialist even if it's a standard fix.. 

[frank_spencer]

3 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

I must have imagined all those drives then.. 

Nearest available and suitable...

If you have a standard car then it's pretty straight forward,  any mods and it'd gotta go to a specialist even if it's a standard fix.. 

perhaps the rules have changed since you did it. If you're on the motability scheme and break down you ring the RAC who take you to either the nearest dealership or the one closest to home depending on the issue. Perhaps the wheelchair adapted vans have different rules but the majority of motability cars will go straight to dealerships.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

13 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

FYI motabilty cars aren't purchased you surrender your mobility component of your PIP/DLA/attendants allowance/war pension to lease it from the manufacturer/dealership. to qualify you need the high rate of mobility on your claim which is incredibly hard to get, one of our friends needed a letter from her doctor to confirm her amputated leg was a permanent condition.

When the RAC come pick up your broken down car they take it to the nearest manufacturer service to your home. So when mine broke in July it was taken to Renault Bolton

I'm aware of how it works.

I'm also aware that the system is totally flawed, and some of the awards are truly ridiculous. The full data is available apparently, though not sure where, but there are enough examples to leave you shaking your head.

I could also give a prime example of someone not too far away from me, but I won't go into details.

As I said, it has been going on for decades.

[Ani]

[tomski]

4 hours ago, Ani said:

Is he counting the 38p as labour costs 😂 always bollocks these twitter/linkedin posts 

[BobyBrno]

1 minute ago, tomski said:

Is he counting the 38p as labour costs 😂 always bollocks these twitter/linkedin posts 

The world is full of ridiculous anecdotes that start with ‘a lad in the pub’

 

[boltonboris]

Can we have a running total to see how many people have been arrested for putting up the flag of Saint George? Apparently it’s illegal 🙄

Anyhow, I’m all for people being patriotic or whatever if they want, but the current crop of flagshaggers are a walking contradiction. They complain about the flag being linked to racism or xenophobia or whatever, then say they’re going to use the flag to show how much they hate migrants. 
 

It’s crazy that a couple of billionaire weirdos living in America started lying on twitter about British laws and British people who actually live here, believe them. 

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, boltonboris said:

Can we have a running total to see how many people have been arrested for putting up the flag of Saint George? Apparently it’s illegal 🙄

Anyhow, I’m all for people being patriotic or whatever if they want, but the current crop of flagshaggers are a walking contradiction. They complain about the flag being linked to racism or xenophobia or whatever, then say they’re going to use the flag to show how much they hate migrants. 
 

It’s crazy that a couple of billionaire weirdos living in America started lying on twitter about British laws and British people who actually live here, believe them. 

If anyone could identify a weirdo it would be you.

[Kane57]

Looks like this organic and grassroots movement for flag shagging and faux-patriotism is not as organic or grass roots as we thought. Nobody saw this coming

https://xcancel.com/docrussjackson/status/1958229505706971418

 

[Not in Crawley]

Just caught up on this news. All a bit depressing really.

Still the always good value John Harris writes a good piece, glad he mentioned the progressive patriot as i remember those discussions that seemingly came to naught. 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/24/flag-hard-right-prejudice-england?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

[bolty58]

I see all the lefties on here are up and about.

Some of us were telling them years ago what was coming. Looks like the penny has finally dropped.

[paulhanley]

I don't understand how anybody could have a problem with people flying the flag of the nation in which they were born. Pride in your home country is something that is so normal abroad that it goes without comment. The three countries in which I have travelled most are the USA, Turkey and France. In each of those countries you are never a few steps away from seeing the national flag on show somewhere. 

This is a campaign against those who want to silence people with whom they disagree/don't share a world view. Same old tactic: Call them racist/label them far-right and thus avoid having to have a debate with them, whether that be on border/immigration policy or anything else. JD Vance is right.

People are absolutely sick and tired of wokery and a Labour party so immersed in it that it hasn't just forgotten its working class roots but it actively reviles them.

If seeing Union flags and the St George's cross everywhere irritates the wokes - then it is doing its job. We do not share your values, we do not share your world views and that is never going to change. We are not an homogenised woke society, we are a plurality with a culture of free speech. If you don't like hearing views alternative to your own you have one hell of a lot of growing up to do.

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

I don't understand how anybody could have a problem with people flying the flag of the nation in which they were born. Pride in your home country is something that is so normal abroad that it goes without comment. The three countries in which I have travelled most are the USA, Turkey and France. In each of those countries you are never a few steps away from seeing the national flag on show somewhere. 

This is a campaign against those who want to silence people with whom they disagree/don't share a world view. Same old tactic: Call them racist/label them far-right and thus avoid having to have a debate with them, whether that be on border/immigration policy or anything else. JD Vance is right.

People are absolutely sick and tired of wokery and a Labour party so immersed in it that it hasn't just forgotten its working class roots but it actively reviles them.

If seeing Union flags and the St George's cross everywhere irritates the wokes - then it is doing its job. We do not share your values, we do not share your world views and that is never going to change. We are not an homogenised woke society, we are a plurality with a culture of free speech. If you don't like hearing views alternative to your own you have one hell of a lot of growing up to do.

Are these people who have a problem with the flag in the room with you now?

[Not in Crawley]

11 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

I don't understand how anybody could have a problem with people flying the flag of the nation in which they were born. Pride in your home country is something that is so normal abroad that it goes without comment. The three countries in which I have travelled most are the USA, Turkey and France. In each of those countries you are never a few steps away from seeing the national flag on show somewhere. 

This is a campaign against those who want to silence people with whom they disagree/don't share a world view. Same old tactic: Call them racist/label them far-right and thus avoid having to have a debate with them, whether that be on border/immigration policy or anything else. JD Vance is right.

People are absolutely sick and tired of wokery and a Labour party so immersed in it that it hasn't just forgotten its working class roots but it actively reviles them.

If seeing Union flags and the St George's cross everywhere irritates the wokes - then it is doing its job. We do not share your values, we do not share your world views and that is never going to change. We are not an homogenised woke society, we are a plurality with a culture of free speech. If you don't like hearing views alternative to your own you have one hell of a lot of growing up to do.

Never read such rubbish. This isnt about free speech, couldn't be further from it. Talk about grabbing the wrong end of the shitty stick. No wonder folks lap up populist rot.

Its about shutting down discourse, its one narrative and if you dont like it, shut the fuck up and watch me paint a roundabout.

You mention other countries. Yes no one says flying a flag in inherrently wrong, but this is flaying the flag for one viewpoint, one that is divisive and ironically against most values in which is country ised to pride itself on. As i say, its just depressing what a small minded, ill educated little nation parts of it have become.

Although seeing someone put red tape over street furniture is quite amusing.

Its like Poppymas has come early.

Edited August 25, 2025 by Not in Crawley

[Sweep]

4 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

I don't understand how anybody could have a problem with people flying the flag of the nation in which they were born. Pride in your home country is something that is so normal abroad that it goes without comment. The three countries in which I have travelled most are the USA, Turkey and France. In each of those countries you are never a few steps away from seeing the national flag on show somewhere. 

The flags of which you speak, are they usually proper flags, or daubings on bedsheets, that look a bit naff, of ones that have slogans written on them? 

As I said yesterday, I drove through Milton Keynes, and it looked absolutely shit, crap flags, bedsheets, poorly painted roundabouts. I also drove through a Cambridgeshire village, and it looked great. My problem isn't the flag shagging, that's fine, it's the scruffy attempts, that lets be honest, look absolutely terrible. It's almost as though the shitter the flag, the more of a patriot people think they are

[Sweep]

These days, if you put up an English flag, you get arrested and thrown in jail

[Winchester White]

21 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

I don't understand how anybody could have a problem with people flying the flag of the nation in which they were born. Pride in your home country is something that is so normal abroad that it goes without comment. The three countries in which I have travelled most are the USA, Turkey and France. In each of those countries you are never a few steps away from seeing the national flag on show somewhere. 

This is a campaign against those who want to silence people with whom they disagree/don't share a world view. Same old tactic: Call them racist/label them far-right and thus avoid having to have a debate with them, whether that be on border/immigration policy or anything else. JD Vance is right.

People are absolutely sick and tired of wokery and a Labour party so immersed in it that it hasn't just forgotten its working class roots but it actively reviles them.

If seeing Union flags and the St George's cross everywhere irritates the wokes - then it is doing its job. We do not share your values, we do not share your world views and that is never going to change. We are not an homogenised woke society, we are a plurality with a culture of free speech. If you don't like hearing views alternative to your own you have one hell of a lot of growing up to do.

This is quite the post.

Also grown men who call other people woke and actually think JD Vance is right should have a word with themselves.

Nothing wrong with flying our flags(s) but many aren't even proper flags but tatty bits of cloth, it is fucking embarrassing. As for painting red lines on a mini roundabout, Jesus wept.

[BobyBrno]

7 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

 

Also grown men who call other people woke.

How about grown men calling other people Gammon?

[Sweep]

As an aside, why do so many England flags, have "England" written on them? 

[Winchester White]

9 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

How about grown men calling other people Gammon?

Perfectly fine, Dickens had it nailed down as a description.

Folk have started calling everything woke these days, it's nonsense.

[only1swanny]

Looks like the smoke screen of "put up flags to show pride" is working. 

I mean nothing says pride like spray painting a roundabout that everyone's going to drive over. 

Go litter picking dressed in a flag and I'll change my mind. 

At Radcliffe there are flags on the bridge with writing on. I'm popping that way later as I want to see what it says.. what do we reckon..

[Sweep]

51 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Looks like the smoke screen of "put up flags to show pride" is working. 

I mean nothing says pride like spray painting a roundabout that everyone's going to drive over. 

Go litter picking dressed in a flag and I'll change my mind. 

At Radcliffe there are flags on the bridge with writing on. I'm popping that way later as I want to see what it says.. what do we reckon..

"No Surrender" or "We want are Country back" 

 

And yes, I know.... It should be our, not are....

[kent_white]

I drove up to Sowerby Bridge yesterday and there were England flags on a lot of the motorway bridges. 

I couldn't help but notice that the number of small boats crossing the channel has come to an immediate halt today - so they must have served their purpose! 😁