This flying of flags malarkey

[BobyBrno]

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

Perfectly fine, Dickens had it nailed down as a description.

Folk have started calling everything woke these days, it's nonsense.

Can’t call anyone ‘woke’ these days. 😊

[Zico]

1 hour ago, paulhanley said:

I don't understand how anybody could have a problem with people flying the flag of the nation in which they were born. Pride in your home country is something that is so normal abroad that it goes without comment.

this current "movement" doesn't appear to stem from national pride though

it stems from issues with immigrations and the numbers arriving here

it's some folks way of saying "we are england, and you are not welcome"

see the video in essex for evidence is this, painting crosses on buildings and shouting raghead at someone who might, for all they know, actually be English

national pride, in this instance, appears to have been hijacked by something more sinister

[boltonboris]

12 minutes ago, Zico said:

this current "movement" doesn't appear to stem from national pride though

it stems from issues with immigrations and the numbers arriving here

it's some folks way of saying "we are england, and you are not welcome"

see the video in essex for evidence is this, painting crosses on buildings and shouting raghead at someone who might, for all they know, actually be English

national pride, in this instance, appears to have been hijacked by something more sinister

Exactly. Nobody is offended by a flag. People can be offended though, at how they’re used

[Tonge moor green jacket]

30 minutes ago, Zico said:

this current "movement" doesn't appear to stem from national pride though

it stems from issues with immigrations and the numbers arriving here

it's some folks way of saying "we are england, and you are not welcome"

see the video in essex for evidence is this, painting crosses on buildings and shouting raghead at someone who might, for all they know, actually be English

national pride, in this instance, appears to have been hijacked by something more sinister

It stems from frustration at being called flagshaggers, racists, etc etc.

Been going on for years. 

The migrant crisis is simply the tipping point, and folk using it to signify frustration, and peaceful protest.

There was recently a comment that our forebears fought two world wars so that we had the freedom to not fly our flag.

I'd say now it is the people showing that they also have the freedom to fly it too.

If that is in part a means of telling governments that people have had enough of the piss being taken out of them, then that's fine too.

Or would you rather they go rioting and join another far right bandwagon?

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It stems from frustration at being called flagshaggers, racists, etc etc.

Been going on for years. 

The migrant crisis is simply the tipping point, and folk using it to signify frustration, and peaceful protest.

There was recently a comment that our forebears fought two world wars so that we had the freedom to not fly our flag.

I'd say now it is the people showing that they also have the freedom to fly it too.

If that is in part a means of telling governments that people have had enough of the piss being taken out of them, then that's fine too.

Or would you rather they go rioting and join another far right bandwagon?

No it bloody well doesnt and dont try and justify this as some some sort of free speech rubbish.

This is about exclusion, at an us not them and doesn't in anyway represent the best this country can be.

Its small minded and stupid.

It does represent an underclass that feels 'it' isnt being heard and as ive said a lot of that is about people being left behind and then their ire being weaponised by Populists against the easiest targets. Its shameful.

[paulhanley]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

No it bloody well doesnt and dont try and justify this as some some sort of free speech rubbish.

This is about exclusion, at an us not them and doesn't in anyway represent the best this country can be.

Its small minded and stupid.

It does represent an underclass that feels 'it' isnt being heard and as ive said a lot of that is about people being left behind and then their ire being weaponised by Populists against the easiest targets. Its shameful.

Bollocks.

People have brains and eyes of their own. It suits your dismal narrative to say they are being led astray by "populists"  who are "far right" and "racists" What they actually are is every day people who are not included  in "inclusion", not "diverse" enough for diversity and consistently treated as below the salt by this inept Islington bubble Guardianista government we have. 

You are going to find that this present chain of events is not a passing fad and you will find it very, very challenging. 

PS: How many homes does the socialist Angela Rayner have now? Two tier Kier and his acolytes in every single sense.

[Cheese]

12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It stems from frustration at being called flagshaggers, racists, etc etc.

Been going on for years. 

The migrant crisis is simply the tipping point, and folk using it to signify frustration, and peaceful protest.

There was recently a comment that our forebears fought two world wars so that we had the freedom to not fly our flag.

I'd say now it is the people showing that they also have the freedom to fly it too.

If that is in part a means of telling governments that people have had enough of the piss being taken out of them, then that's fine too.

Or would you rather they go rioting and join another far right bandwagon?

Nobody has stopped anybody 'flying the flag', you drama queen.

Odd that you're now in favour of vandalism as a form of protest too. 🤔

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Bollocks.

People have brains and eyes of their own. It suits your dismal narrative to say they are being led astray by "populists"  who are "far right" and "racists" What they actually are is every day people who are not included  in "inclusion", not "diverse" enough for diversity and consistently treated as below the salt by this inept Islington bubble Guardianista government we have. 

You are going to find that this present chain of events is not a passing fad and you will find it very, very challenging. 

PS: How many homes does the socialist Angela Rayner have now? Two tier Kier and his acolytes in every single sense.

Its not dismissive to say this is not a promotion of national.spirit but a hijacking by some loons who are fucked off with their current lot and boneheadly think this is somehow the right way to go about it. No idea about nation pride at all.

Thats two post today you've made that are up there on the sensitive little soul meter who is celebrating this diversive little campaign and doesnt like any push back.

If thats your vision of Britian, then no amount of common sense can help you, so I'll leave you bleating and in the belief that the right minded majority of this country are quite rightly either laughing or rolling their eyes at this divisive nonsense.

Its not just your flag my friend, its mine as well, and I'll be buggered if im letting idiots like you say what it represents and what it doesnt.

[wanderer1984]

Think I might put my flag back up 😊 

[Zico]

37 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It stems from frustration at being called flagshaggers, racists, etc etc.

Been going on for years. 

The migrant crisis is simply the tipping point, and folk using it to signify frustration, and peaceful protest.

There was recently a comment that our forebears fought two world wars so that we had the freedom to not fly our flag.

I'd say now it is the people showing that they also have the freedom to fly it too.

If that is in part a means of telling governments that people have had enough of the piss being taken out of them, then that's fine too.

Or would you rather they go rioting and join another far right bandwagon?

me? I have no preference

they can do what they like with their flags, it doesn't bother me, I was saying that this current trend we're seeing, these patriots, it's not about national pride

like you said, they're pissed off, so they can go ahead and put flags up as a form of protest

I'd just rather these patriots don't start going after anyone who doesn't look like they're English

that's another side that all this is bringing to the fore

I'm sure it's the same in France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc

it's not just an issue our government faces

and as far as I can see

I don't see the numbers of folk from Africa, the middle east and Asia wanting to come here dropping any time soon either, I can only see the number rising, especially when those parts of the world get hotter and drier

 

[Cheese]

11 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Think I might put my flag back up 😊 

Right, that's it. I'm phoning the police.

[Not in Crawley]

15 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Right, that's it. I'm phoning the police.

Im surprised hes not been out all day with a tin of dulux red.

Edited August 25, 2025 by Not in Crawley

[wanderer1984]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

Im surprised hes not been out all day with a tin of dulux red.

How do you know I haven't?

Your dad would be so proud 

[crawshawbooth]

"If you burn a flag ,you get one year in jail , no early exits , no nothing !

President Trump declared from the Oval office in an Executive order today

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said:

"If you burn a flag ,you get one year in jail , no early exits , no nothing !

President Trump declared from the Oval office in an Executive order today

He doesn't want to be a Nationalist Dictator though. And I'm sure he's not a hypocrite who has all his merchandise made in Commmunist China.

[Winchester White]

1 hour ago, paulhanley said:

Bollocks.

People have brains and eyes of their own. It suits your dismal narrative to say they are being led astray by "populists"  who are "far right" and "racists" What they actually are is every day people who are not included  in "inclusion", not "diverse" enough for diversity and consistently treated as below the salt by this inept Islington bubble Guardianista government we have. 

You are going to find that this present chain of events is not a passing fad and you will find it very, very challenging. 

PS: How many homes does the socialist Angela Rayner have now? Two tier Kier and his acolytes in every single sense.

This is utter nonsense and trying to blame this at Labour is weapons grade bullshit. This has been brewing for years because folk don't like people arriving on boats from France. I actually understand that and believe we should try to reduce these crossings btw.

[Casino]

1 hour ago, paulhanley said:

 

PS: How many homes does the socialist Angela Rayner have now? Two tier Kier and his acolytes in every single sense.

Id think shes worth a lot less than Farage

A proper hater of the UK, that cunt

[Not in Crawley]

27 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

How do you know I haven't?

Your dad would be so proud 

He bloody wouldn't.

[Zico]

1 hour ago, paulhanley said:

Bollocks.

People have brains and eyes of their own. It suits your dismal narrative to say they are being led astray by "populists"  who are "far right" and "racists" What they actually are is every day people who are not included  in "inclusion", not "diverse" enough for diversity and consistently treated as below the salt by this inept Islington bubble Guardianista government we have. 

You are going to find that this present chain of events is not a passing fad and you will find it very, very challenging. 

PS: How many homes does the socialist Angela Rayner have now? Two tier Kier and his acolytes in every single sense.

None of this started when labour got into power, it's not a problem of their making

But yes, they need to show progress in cleaning up the mess they got left with, and fast

[only1swanny]

Just now, Zico said:

None of this started when labour got into power, it's not a problem of their making

But yes, they need to show progress in cleaning up the mess they got left with, and fast

It's a problem that's gained traction since the 60's

I'd wager there's more come across legally on planes that come over illegally on boats. 

Sack it just checked 

2024 431,000 legally (down 50% due to new laws passed to reduce immigration)

2024 36816 illegally on boats

2023 Legally 860,000

2023 boats 29437

2025 (to date) 43600 on boats

It's set to fall to an estimate 200,000 by 2026, so the Governments plans ARE working..

but if laws, and a natural reduction in immigration doesn't stop the boats. I'd wager putting flags up and spray painting crosses won't work either...

 

 

[Casino]

25 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

It's a problem that's gained traction since the 60'd

This definitely does not go go back the 60s

Its a modern thing

To be fair, Farridge doesnt believe it either

But he does know itll make him rich

[kent_white]

Someone I know and love was apoplectic with rage on Facebook today that some of the England flags that have been put up have been 'taken down'. His bet is that it was the council. I asked if it was alright for me to stick up a Palestine flag wherever I want to - and if so - should I be free to expect that it won't be taken down. I didn't get an answer to that. Then I had to try and painfully deconstruct his arguments about immigration levels post Brexit (none of which he was willing to believe). He eventually settled on the idea that Keir Starmer blocked Brexit from happening and that it was HIS fault that we had to open up immigration from all over the world by trying to detail Brexit or something? He's one of the most lovely - but incredibly dense people I've ever known, and has been all the way since school. 

This isn't to say that all roundabout painters are thick - but in this case he definitely is. It's a full one hour explanation to try and even at least give him the facts. That's the problem. - this is what we're dealing with. 

I understand people are frustrated - but taking your frustrations out on the Labour Party as if this is some new phenomenon is bloody daft. It's the best part of two decades in the making. 

Painting flags on roundabouts is about as effective as a strategy as signing a petition demanding that Keir Starmer is removed from office. It's the actions of morons and will probably blow over as a 'thing' once the weather gets a bit colder. 

Although he thinks he's part of some huge resistance moment! 

 

[Winchester White]

27 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

It's a problem that's gained traction since the 60's

I'd wager there's more come across legally on planes that come over illegally on boats. 

Sack it just checked 

2024 431,000 legally (down 50% due to new laws passed to reduce immigration)

2024 36816 illegally on boats

2023 Legally 860,000

2023 boats 29437

2025 (to date) 43600 on boats

It's set to fall to an estimate 200,000 by 2026, so the Governments plans ARE working..

but if laws, and a natural reduction in immigration doesn't stop the boats. I'd wager putting flags up and spray painting crosses won't work either...

 

 

This is what annoys me so much. Immigration is 90+ % legal, folk coming here because we allow them to do so. Yet what do all the headlines concentrate on, what is Farage whipping up, on the news (including the BBC) all about? Boat folk.

They have taken over from single mothers and benefit cheats for the gammons (just for Boby 😁)

 

[kent_white]

The other elephant in the room is that our country has an aging population. 

I can't remember who I saw in TV last week, I think it might have been Alistair Campbell. His point was back in the not too distant past - there were around 20 people working for every one person claiming a state pension. Demographic changes mean that that number is close to 3 working people for everybody claiming a state pension. 

So one way or another - the country is unsustainable without big increases in the number of people coming into work. We just don't like to talk about it because the unpleasant fact is that barring some population explosion/fertility miracle amongst the indigenous white British population - this country is going to be in its arse in relatively short order. 

[Sweep]

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