Tombwfc Posted January 11 Posted January 11 8 minutes ago, Winchester White said: People who clamour for ex players to be the next manager make my teeth itch. When has it ever worked for any club? I'm not advocating it now (although Nolan has definitely done a better job with Northampton than SS has here)... but you really can't think of a time when a club hiring a former player has worked? Really? Not even one? Quote
little whitt Posted January 11 Posted January 11 makes you think What The Fuck do they do in Training all week Quote
Zico Posted January 11 Posted January 11 16 minutes ago, Winchester White said: People who clamour for ex players to be the next manager make my teeth itch. When has it ever worked for any club? I wouldn't wish the Bolton job on Nolan, let him build a successful career elsewhere. Based purely on looking at the table I don't know why we'd want Nolan Quote
Winchester White Posted January 11 Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: I'm not advocating it now (although Nolan has definitely done a better job with Northampton than SS has here)... but you really can't think of a time when a club hiring a former player has worked? Really? Not even one? 😁 To be fair it's more the young inexperienced type that gets the gig and fails miserably 99 times out of a hundred. On that though, Sam will always be a legend. Quote
wakey Posted January 11 Posted January 11 37 minutes ago, Zog1 said: When's the last time this team has even attacked right through the middle i cant even remember, and that is the fault of tactics. Burstow's one v one? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 11 Posted January 11 35 minutes ago, Winchester White said: People who clamour for ex players to be the next manager make my teeth itch. When has it ever worked for any club? I wouldn't wish the Bolton job on Nolan, let him build a successful career elsewhere. BSA? Not bothered if it is an ex player or not. Just get someone good. Nolan does seem to be slowly building there, and it's not a club with much size or pedigree. Bit like the fella at Lincoln. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted January 11 Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I reckon Forss would be more effective in a better side. He got injured at Middlesbrough, and wasn't able to get his place back (iirc, the manager there changed too). He has shown some classy finishes, but I also reckon he's a victim of the selection wheel of fortune. As indeed are the other strikers. That applies to every striker though, whether its Collins, McAtee or Charles. When the team's playing well, they are scoring regularly and getting those classy finishes. When we don't know where the next goal's coming from, they can go missing. Forss has taken going missing to another level, the other 3 were never this invisible for so long. I'm not knocking SS for signing him, I'd have signed him myself based on his record at Boro, but he's been an awful signing, we just have to move on. Quote
Stig Posted January 11 Posted January 11 On 10/01/2026 at 17:55, meanderson93 said: Heard a few too many shouts for Nolan. If people think watching us at the minute is tough, I couldn't imagine dragging myself to games to watch the style of play his sides implement. In fairness to Nolan, he's had "low expectation" teams who are trying to avoid the drop, and got 4 PTS off us this season,and his team looked the more likely to win the draw! I'm sure he'd adapt to be more attacking in a "higher expectation" team while naturally having some of Big Sam and Moyes's traits of being solid. He's done well so far in his career Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 11 Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Zico said: Based purely on looking at the table I don't know why we'd want Nolan Yeah. 🗣 "Nolan Out !!!!". Quote
Hoppy Posted January 11 Posted January 11 The main aim we want from the manager this one or a new one is too get out of this division if it's boring solid 1:0 football to us than so be it I reckon Nobby could do that Quote
masi 51 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Duck Egg said: Bizarre. Bizarre in what way?? I thought the modern way is when you change the coach he goes ad you have a structure in place where a new coach comes in and nothing else changes. Why did we replace all the management team? If we get rid of SS be it next season or in five seasons i would expect everyone else to carry on in whatever role they currently hold Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 11 Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Bizarre in what way?? I thought the modern way is when you change the coach he goes ad you have a structure in place where a new coach comes in and nothing else changes. Why did we replace all the management team? If we get rid of SS be it next season or in five seasons i would expect everyone else to carry on in whatever role they currently hold Almost without fail a new manager brings his own team of support staff. Some few may not follow him, some few might remain from the old regime, but in general most leave. Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I’m still (just about) Schuey in, but it’s getting harder and to justify Quote
masi 51 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 16 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Almost without fail a new manager brings his own team of support staff. Some few may not follow him, some few might remain from the old regime, but in general most leave. I am well aware but the question is why? No problems if any resign and follow a manager out without a pay off Gilkes is a decent goalkeeper coach for example why should we pay his contract up when he was doing a decent job Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted January 11 Posted January 11 If we get shut of SS I’d not be going for Nolan, I’d be looking for an experienced manager not an unexperienced coach. Quote
Wanderlust Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Getting interesting this. We know there’s a high correlation between posters who clamoured to get Evatt out and those that welcomed SS with open arms. There is also a correlation between those posters who welcomed SS and the trawling up of it being the fault of Evatt’s signings when SS loses, even now a year into the job and despite SS having made >30 player movements in, out or loan in that time in an effort to get it right. I’m wondering if there’s a correlation between some folk that wanted Evatt out then and SS out now? If so, those fuckers will never be happy 😀 Quote
Duck Egg Posted January 11 Posted January 11 47 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Bizarre in what way?? Bizarre in that you're criticising the owners. They've put significant funds into the club and not interfered with the football side. We should be forever grateful that we have the owners we do. We've all seen what the alternative looks like. Quote
Stig Posted January 11 Posted January 11 On 10/01/2026 at 18:08, Cheese said: So name your preferred replacement who isn't crap, and would realistically take the job. It's not difficult. You can have an opinion on something without knowing the solution. Quote
Stig Posted January 11 Posted January 11 23 hours ago, Marc505 said: I believe, after a few decades watching this club all over through thick-ish and thin, that on the whole people prefer it when things are not going well. We revel in chaos. That's where the booing starts after 5 minutes, or when passes go back not forward, when the forums kick off, where your WhatsApp lights up, where the emergency podcasts get made, where people pine for the past. Where fans start pleading for apologies and refunds from the club when really its their money and their choice to travel and they say its all just about the day out anyway after all. Where people start saying actually Im not going to Wigan anymore because we might lose and I cant handle it. OINO, apparently. That's complete rubbish, and you know it. There's just more to talk about when things are going badly, so forums thrive during this period. Stadiums don't though as you'll have seen with attendances increasing when a team is doing well versus when a team is doing well. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted January 11 Posted January 11 3 hours ago, little whitt said: makes you think What The Fuck do they do in Training all week Probably a maths lesson in how to calculate xG. Quote
Stig Posted January 11 Posted January 11 23 hours ago, tomski said: I’m amazed how quickly people are turning on schuey, bearing in mind the majority gave Evatt the keys to the kingdom. We’re 6th. In fairness, Evatt had the early doubts before building credit with a promotion and then Papa John's win. This is the point where SS needs to turn it round and I'd give him to the end of the season, but he's not earnt the credit Evatt had (even though I agreed with you he outstayed his credit period by a good chunk) Quote
masi 51 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 53 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Bizarre in that you're criticising the owners. They've put significant funds into the club and not interfered with the football side. We should be forever grateful that we have the owners we do. We've all seen what the alternative looks like. As you say you have to be thankful that they saved the club....I do not get what you are saying regarding interfering on the football side. Yes they did when they sacked the manager two years too late They also brought in two Directors of football and numerous coaches etc and replaced them all I would hope that if and when SS is replaced the rest of the management team are left to carry on Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 11 Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: If we get shut of SS I’d not be going for Nolan, I’d be looking for an experienced manager not an unexperienced coach. He has plenty of experience as a coach. Still cutting his teeth as a manager, clearly. He has had some good managers to learn from too, which may stand him in good stead. Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 11 Posted January 11 It would be something else if a player from the golden days under Big Sam was to come back and get us promoted. Nothing but fantasy though. Are there even many of them managing at a decent level? I read Stelios did a few stints. Will leave the rest to you lot 😃 Quote
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