43 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

All the new players seemed to be part of the team.

Hardie will be a nuisance from the bench till he's upto speed. They know what he's capable of and bringing a player of that quality on towards the end is risky for the opposition.

Lazza seems to suit that position, I know he's a right back, but the side looked solid!

Genuine panic when Stephenson went down after that challenge though, at least he ran it off.

Dong worries me, he looked so off it when he came on. S.I.J looked a bit out of depth, but the lad only walked in yesterday morning. Not sure what Dong brings but hopefully he'll be up to it pretty soon.

Dong was awful and almost cost us the three points

Some of this talk that PNE were awful and the worst we will come up against is nonsense, they weren't great but they are a well established championship team, it's the start of the season with many changes and players not up to full speed, but that is exactly the same for us, if not even worse. Some of our players stepped right up and we can only improve, especially with some more new additions.

We will have some shit times this season, but I think we have shown we can hold our own with the mid range teams at home.

COYWM

10 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

Dong was awful and almost cost us the three points

I really didn't think he was that bad at all, looked busy enough to me and better than he did in preseason.

I was a bit disappointed by the Hardie cameo, thought he looked slow and weak, could definitely tell the difference losing the pressing ability that McAtee gives you.

9 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

I really didn't think he was that bad at all, looked busy enough to me and better than he did in preseason.

I was a bit disappointed by the Hardie cameo, thought he looked slow and weak, could definitely tell the difference losing the pressing ability that McAtee gives you.

It wasn't a particularly easy situation for any of the three subs to positively catch the eye in. Hardie's an 'off the target man' sort of striker, not someone who's going to help keep you up the other end of the pitch.

Dong was a bit unlucky prior to their goal, was ratting around trying to get hold of the ball, couple of ricochet and it popped out for them to start the break

Not a situation SS would have ideally introduced any of them but we got away with it

Not read the last 13 pages, so apologies for repeating others...

I thought we were excellent today for at least 75 minutes.
We became a bit disjointed with the subs etc, but the starting XI were fantastic and some looked knackered.

First game back after 7 years, full house, beat a local rival with a big following, your top scorer up and running, 3 points in the bag.
Not a lot to dislike there.

Definitely not me that's spent the the last 5 hours thinking it was the villa kid who came on and not Dong.

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

They gave a shove against McAtee for that ! Good grief considering half the man handling that Dalby gets

4 hours ago, Eddie said:

• Dalby’s finish was really good. It was a lot more tricky than it looked and I was pleasantly surprised with how well he took it.

Weirdly, considering he scored an overhead kick at Wembley two competitive matches ago, I thought that was Dalby's best goal for us. He's never inspired confidence in those situations and could've easily fucked it up, but he buried it and gave the keeper no chance.

Shame he reverted to type with the one in the second half.

what a Amazing first game

Famewo reminds me of Bruno Ngotty

was in the Vulcan at 9.30

then in to Horwich after the game

1 minute ago, little whitt said:

what a Amazing first game

Famewo reminds me of Bruno Ngotty

was in the Vulcan at 9.30

then in to Horwich after the game

Don't remember Ngotty doing that 😀

Did you fall asleep at 5pm?

7 hours ago, only1swanny said:

They gave a shove against McAtee for that ! Good grief considering half the man handling that Dalby gets

That decision is abysmal. Should have been 3 nil and cruising

Not seen it mentioned but heard Schumacher saying in his post match that he picked that team to play a 3-4-2-1 thinking that they would match up with Preston's back 5 but only realised when the teams were announced that they'd switched to a back 4.

So that performance came from a lineup being asked to switch formation and roles less than an hour from kickoff, really impressive stuff and does show the versatility we have in the squad and means we can switch easily mid game if something isn't working.

Also, explains Famewo and Conway getting the starts where they did, was obviously meant to be Famewo left of a back 3 and Conway LWB initially.

Has anybody else raised an eyebrow about the gate of 26200 yesterday being described as a sell out?

Our two highest gates at the stadium were both above 28,000 against Leicester and Arsenal around 2003/4 time.

I understand the need for segregation. Indeed other than the two games mentioned above the de facto ground capacity seemed to be around 27300 precisely due to that need for adequate segregation. Against Leicester and Arsenal the away fans were put in the top tier of the South Stand with home fans on the lower tier and thus no seats were kept unoccupied.

At those two games you could maybe have understood if the police had wanted the front rows of the SSU blocked off as segregation given those below were BWFC fans. Why yesterday did seats have to be blocked out of use in those SSU front rows when the only fans in SSL were from Preston?? It makes no sense.

Apologies to them if I am wrong but I suspect this is the police going over the top. Given the number of very large away followings expected this year this kind of over-cautious behaviour is cumulatively going to cost us a lot of money.

15 hours ago, paulhanley said:

Just worth a little mention that we'd not beaten these at home for 25 years and not at all since the Cardiff play off in 2001. To be fair we only played them six times in all those years but the three of those at home were all defeats. I can't remember much about the last one (L1-2, Donaldson scored for us) but the other two I do remember and they were miserable - we scored first in both and lost 1-2 (Liam Trotter) and 1-3 (Mark Beevers).

Little landmarks on the BWFC comeback trail.

Schuey likes smashing these unwanted records , wigan and now pne. Am hoping theres a wolves one thay needs sorting.

5 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Has anybody else raised an eyebrow about the gate of 26200 yesterday being described as a sell out?

Our two highest gates at the stadium were both above 28,000 against Leicester and Arsenal around 2003/4 time.

I understand the need for segregation. Indeed other than the two games mentioned above the de facto ground capacity seemed to be around 27300 precisely due to that need for adequate segregation. Against Leicester and Arsenal the away fans were put in the top tier of the South Stand with home fans on the lower tier and thus no seats were kept unoccupied.

At those two games you could maybe have understood if the police had wanted the front rows of the SSU blocked off as segregation given those below were BWFC fans. Why yesterday did seats have to be blocked out of use in those SSU front rows when the only fans in SSL were from Preston?? It makes no sense.

Apologies to them if I am wrong but I suspect this is the police going over the top. Given the number of very large away followings expected this year this kind of over-cautious behaviour is cumulatively going to cost us a lot of money.

Ain't it something to do with police and persistent standing ? Think I read something along those lines

1 minute ago, W.cramp said:

Ain't it something to do with police and persistent standing ? Think I read something along those lines

If so that's bonkers. Complete over-caution. We're approaching our 30th year at the ground. Away fans have often spent all game stood up in the top tier. There has not been one single incident. Even if you want to play it a bit on the cautious side do they need quite so many of the front rows blocked off?

Maybe plod can lower their policing bills to compensate us for this unnecessary loss of income.

7 minutes ago, W.cramp said:

Schuey likes smashing these unwanted records , wigan and now pne. Am hoping theres a wolves one thay needs sorting.

The three games at Deepdale between 2012 and 2019 were all draws. In fact we've not lost against them there since Spring 1992. Let's hope that's one record SS maintains when the return fixture comes around.

10 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Has anybody else raised an eyebrow about the gate of 26200 yesterday being described as a sell out?

Our two highest gates at the stadium were both above 28,000 against Leicester and Arsenal around 2003/4 time.

I understand the need for segregation. Indeed other than the two games mentioned above the de facto ground capacity seemed to be around 27300 precisely due to that need for adequate segregation. Against Leicester and Arsenal the away fans were put in the top tier of the South Stand with home fans on the lower tier and thus no seats were kept unoccupied.

At those two games you could maybe have understood if the police had wanted the front rows of the SSU blocked off as segregation given those below were BWFC fans. Why yesterday did seats have to be blocked out of use in those SSU front rows when the only fans in SSL were from Preston?? It makes no sense.

Apologies to them if I am wrong but I suspect this is the police going over the top. Given the number of very large away followings expected this year this kind of over-cautious behaviour is cumulatively going to cost us a lot of money.

I didn't want to get onto attendnoncery yesterday, but feel it's acceptable today!

I'm also confused by 26.2k being a sell out. The stadium holds 28.5k so 2.3k seats being unavailable isn't good. There could have been fans not able to go yesterday when there were still plenty of seats available.

Looks to me like we were thinking of selling half of South lower to home fans, hence the first few rows of the upper being blocked, and then changed their mind based on guaranteed sales from Preston.

Whatever configuration we're going for, we're being way too conservative on segregation. Look at Huddersfield last season, or Derby the season before. A row of stewards and crack on.

Edited Sunday at 08:153 days by Stig

I had to check the score again when I woke up this morning to make sure I hadn't dreamt the entire day. COYWM 🤍

I know Marc Iles isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I like him, and he sums it all up superbly in this.

20 minutes ago, Stig said:

I didn't want to get onto attendnoncery yesterday, but feel it's acceptable today!

I'm also confused by 26.2k being a sell out. The stadium holds 28.5k so 2.3k seats being unavailable isn't good. There could have been fans not able to go yesterday when there were still plenty of seats available.

Looks to me like we were thinking of selling half of South lower to home fans, hence the first few rows of the upper being blocked, and then changed their mind based on guaranteed sales from Preston.

Whatever configuration we're going for, we're being way too conservative on segregation. Look at Huddersfield last season, or Derby the season before. A row of stewards and crack on.

I could be wrong but I wluldn't assume it's entirely the club's decision

Superb all round performance yesterday. We played with great energy and there were some standout performances. Erhahon, Sheehan, Forino and Gale were incredibly impressive and everyone else played well too.

Have no idea why Dalby’s second didn’t stand. Certainly wasn’t a foul, and the liner didn’t flag for offside 🤷🏼‍♂️

Should’ve been out of sight, but it’s a reminder that if you don’t take your opportunities you’re at risk of dropping points that you should wrap up comfortably.

2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I could be wrong but I wluldn't assume it's entirely the club's decision

I agree. It'll be a combo of club deciding the configuration and then police advising on segregation required. Even then the club should have some challenge back as that segregation costs them potential income, especially as other clubs can have far smaller segregation

Some of Larrazabal’s passing too… Beautiful. He’s a very good footballer

1 hour ago, paulhanley said:

Has anybody else raised an eyebrow about the gate of 26200 yesterday being described as a sell out?

Our two highest gates at the stadium were both above 28,000 against Leicester and Arsenal around 2003/4 time.

I understand the need for segregation. Indeed other than the two games mentioned above the de facto ground capacity seemed to be around 27300 precisely due to that need for adequate segregation. Against Leicester and Arsenal the away fans were put in the top tier of the South Stand with home fans on the lower tier and thus no seats were kept unoccupied.

At those two games you could maybe have understood if the police had wanted the front rows of the SSU blocked off as segregation given those below were BWFC fans. Why yesterday did seats have to be blocked out of use in those SSU front rows when the only fans in SSL were from Preston?? It makes no sense.

Apologies to them if I am wrong but I suspect this is the police going over the top. Given the number of very large away followings expected this year this kind of over-cautious behaviour is cumulatively going to cost us a lot of money.

Yeah, it’s utterly ridiculous. I sniff GMP and policing costs and this giving them power to some extent to dictate the level of away following. Even with the seats blocked out yesterday, that didn’t look like 2,500 seats to me that were empty. Could be wrong.