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Sheffield Wednesday (A) - Carabao Cup

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  • desperado
    desperado

    Granted, it’s a strange “first game of the season” And I get it’s not as important as next Saturday. But surely we are not at the stage of dismissing the league cup as a glorified friendly? It would

  • Marc505
    Marc505

    Its just... a really, really good piss up, Sheffield. Genuinely top class.

  • tomski
    tomski

    Or another way to look at it. Today’s game has no relevance on what we want this season. I’ll say it. Glad we are out. Shit tourno

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Highlight of the day, somehow getting a £55 profit on a bet of 1-1 with Burstow and Rodrigues to score… 🤷

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Absolute rubbish that. Simon’s getting sent off made it harder but in all honesty we just never looked like scoring and their goal was a great pass and finish. If we don’t get some bodies in up front before next week we’ll find it much harder than today because Wednesday were awful.

20 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Less sure about Watson.

Harsh from just a few minutes but there's no obvious urgency.

Watson, dung and McAtee where awful

10 minutes ago, Didledee said:

well we can at least say we lost because of one person rather than we lost 11 vs 11, but we were toothless 1st half despite getting into good situations, one mans action mean no cup run, not that we had any chance of winning the thing, but a little bit of mystery being in the hat for the next round would have been nice, but nope someones mind in that split second made him punch another.

Its not impossible to go through with 10 men. PNE had 10 for over an hour and won on pens, we won at Plymouth with 10.

We lost because we couldn't score, 0-0 after an hour, 11 v 11.

It just looked like we weren't very good, either at the back, in midfield or up front. Not sure where to start really, impossible to just say we need this or that. Dempsey would improve us straight away even if just from the bench, but with the current availability he'd be starting next week.

Never mind Dempsey, What's Neil Whatmore doing next Saturday?

16 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

Absolute rubbish that. Simon’s getting sent off made it harder but in all honesty we just never looked like scoring and their goal was a great pass and finish. If we don’t get some bodies in up front before next week we’ll find it much harder than today because Wednesday were awful.

I'd argue we looked like a scoring on several occasions, most notably Rodrigues and Stephenson both had great opportunities created by Gale that on another day either could bury.

Anyone positive after that?

Played well enough by all accounts, bar the finishing.

RR done really well preseason, but he didn't have his shooting boots/head on today.

Had he done we would have been a couple ahead, and would probably have won.

Red card obviously changed things, but overall I'm not discouraged.

The sending off gives them a excuse but Wednesday were getting on top anyway we looked good for 25 minutes first half should of been in front after that we were poor against a really poor side

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29 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Highlight of the day, somehow getting a £55 profit on a bet of 1-1 with Burstow and Rodrigues to score… 🤷

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at what point did you cash out??

5 minutes ago, Zico said:

at what point did you cash out??

1-0 them. Burstow’s sub had scored.

Gale had arguably as productive a 45 mins as we've seen from him but nothing made of three decent balls across. We played some tidy stuff in getting to the edge of their box or the by line but didn't make the most of any of it

Always going to be difficult down to 10 and, not surprisingly, we made less and less happen as game wore on. Subs added little apart from resting legs, Dong showed one or two bits but that was about it.

3 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Gale had arguably as productive a 45 mins as we've seen from him but nothing made of three decent balls across. We played some tidy stuff in getting to the edge of their box or the by line but didn't make the most of any of it

Always going to be difficult down to 10 and, not surprisingly, we made less and less happen as game wore on. Subs added little apart from resting legs, Dong showed one or two bits but that was about it.

I'm one of his biggest critics but Was Impressed by Gale. He was going for the simple option rather than the constant cut in and glory. Did his job there, its up to folk on t'other end to finsh. Looks like work has been done on the training pitch.

Main thoughts on the game (and didn't see whatever Simons got sent off for - assume an elbow as he was being pulled back):

  • We played pretty well for most of the game but just do not shoot when we should. 4 chances I think where we passed up a really good shooting chance to do one extra pass and didn't get a shot away. Should have scored from a couple of those and won that

  • Goes without saying we need a striker and wingers

  • Watson looks a bit crap at first viewing. The other signings all look decent

  • I like league cup games the week before the season starts rather than midweek with noone there. Yes it felt a bit like a friendly but the atmosphere was better than with 5k on

Roll on the proper stuff next week

20 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

I'm one of his biggest critics but Was Impressed by Gale. He was going for the simple option rather than the constant cut in and glory. Did his job there, its up to folk on t'other end to finsh. Looks like work has been done on the training pitch.

Yeah much more end product than usual. Second half he tired and did a few floaty crosses to noone but he looks in good nick for this season

1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said:

Absolute rubbish that. Simon’s getting sent off made it harder but in all honesty we just never looked like scoring and their goal was a great pass and finish. If we don’t get some bodies in up front before next week we’ll find it much harder than today because Wednesday were awful.

Funny how we all see it. Just felt pre season. Simons is a tit for that. Gray is a little gimp.

I said this before losing that cups are wank. We are only conditioned to remember the good old days. We’d of lost to someone like Walsall in R2.

Last time we went out to Sheff Wed we ended up promoted.

Liked a lot of today. Still toothless up top. I’ll decide when the windows shut as I could see all removed. Mcatee 3.0 (as someone who backed him the last 2 years) looked like 1.0 and 2.0.

Felt Stephenson was fouled for a blatant pen too.

Stephenson and the Spaniard look ace. Gale had his moments.

Roll on PNE.

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1 hour ago, Farnywhite said:

Banahan doing what Sheehan should be doing pulling the strings in midfield

What!!??

He was anonymous till we went down to 10 men!

It really felt like a friendly, albeit one where they deployed the dark arts masterfully.

Free kick for having your nose bust open..

Pulled back on goal, free kick but no yellow..

every tackle was agressive

The sticking the foot in on gale being just one example.

We had it all last season though and they need to toughen up against teams like that.

Positives

Gale was a clear threat, Lazza was to some extent and his game will improve

The midfield of Simons and Sheehan worked well to that point

We won't manage what we want with a lone man. RR is class though so who do you drop? Who do you play?

It's a distraction we won't need this season..

1 hour ago, meanderson93 said:

great opportunities created by Gale that on another day either could bury.

... who played pretty well tbh.

1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said:

Absolute rubbish that. Simon’s getting sent off made it harder but in all honesty we just never looked like scoring and their goal was a great pass and finish. If we don’t get some bodies in up front before next week we’ll find it much harder than today because Wednesday were awful.

Nah, that’s balls. We could have been three up at half time

50 minutes ago, desperado said:

What!!??

He was anonymous till we went down to 10 men!

Rubbish he played plenty of balls through when it was 11 11 especially linking up with the left winger look at the stats every thing they created which wasn’t a lot came through him to day he was anonymous is just blind biast

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1 minute ago, Farnywhite said:

Dalby might as well been sat in the with the supporters absolutely no service to the guy either crosses into the box or with is back to goal

Rubbish he played plenty of balls through when it was 11 11 especially linking up with the left winger look at the stats every thing they created which wasn’t a lot came through him to day he was anonymous is just blind biast

Well that’s what it looked like Iive at the game (which I know can often be difficult to assess)

But on the eye he didn’t look like he was doing anymore than Sheehan or Simons (in fact a lot less) when it was 11 v 11.

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

What did Simons get sent off for?

55 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

We won't manage what we want with a lone man. RR is class though so who do you drop? Who do you play?

Friendlies and today have shown, for me, that Dalby wont get into double figures in this league if he's being asked / trying to be two things at once. If he's coming deep to hold it up and bring people in he hasn't the pace to then get on the end of crosses that follow. If he stays high up and is a goalmouth loiterer RR will have a lot to do as the link between midfield and him.

SS has said he wants someone (such as Kenny) who has the pace to get beyond him and their back line. If he plays though, as you say, where does RR fit in?

Finding the mix that gets us scoring but accommodates our few Championship level performers is going to be a challenge.

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