Mounts Kipper Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 What defines a JCL, some people get upset with JCL, personally the more the merrier, also i would like to know other than the obvious why they never considered going to bolton over 10 years ago.
Mounts Kipper Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 the obvious being we were shite.
MickyD Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 The next obvious, we were at a ricketty old ground where you could cut the atmosphere with a knife even during the dark days. You had to stand up or, if you were rich could sit in a seat where the average knee room was about 6" less than the average distance from arse to knee! God I miss the place!
Casino Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 can't stand jcls who want football to be this extension of the theatre pisses me off that a jcl gets equal opportunity to obtain tickets as somebody with years of 'service' in (that's not their fault though) no time for jcls who just pick their home games and would never stick with us if the going got tough other than that, no real issues, cos bwfc benefit from their cash that's me done 8-[
HomerJay Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 can't stand jcls who want football to be this extension of the theatre pisses me off that a jcl gets equal opportunity to obtain tickets as somebody with years of 'service' in (that's not their fault though) no time for jcls who just pick their home games and would never stick with us if the going got tough other than that, no real issues, cos bwfc benefit from their cash that's me done 8-[ totally agree, but at the end of the day football is an entertainment and the PAYING public should be allowed to come and go as the please. JCL's are still c??nts though, sorry but thats just the way it is...
MickyD Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 can't stand jcls who want football to be this extension of the theatre pisses me off that a jcl gets equal opportunity to obtain tickets as somebody with years of 'service' in (that's not their fault though) no time for jcls who just pick their home games and would never stick with us if the going got tough other than that, no real issues, cos bwfc benefit from their cash that's me done 8-[ totally agree, but at the end of the day football is an entertainment and the PAYING public should be allowed to come and go as the please. JCL's are still c??nts though, sorry but thats just the way it is... If it's entertainment I have the right to hand in a list of some matches played over the last 30 years to BWFC and claim a refund. Sam has stated that results first, entertainment later; and rightly so. I personally don't mind a JCL who gets involved with the atmosphere. It's the ones you see outside the main entrance in suits and posh frocks who are: There for the food There because some other f??cker is paying There because it's a chance to dress in your best clothes. Unaware who's playing Dryer than me when it p??sses down.
Guest Biff Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 Everybody has been a jcl at some time. The ones I have little time for are those who only decided to start supporting Bolton when they were promoted to the Premier and who will drop their support if Bolton were to start disappearing down the league. It just so happens that when I first started supporting Bolton we were top of the old Division 1 but that is not why I started. I have stuck with Bolton right from the top down to Division 4 and back to the top of the Premier. Perhaps supporters who have been season ticket holders for a long period of time should have priority over new season ticket holders for tickets. I'm sure that is what happened when we first came to the Reebok or was it when we returned to the Premier.
Fengshui Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 JCL is Bull shit. If you want to support BWFC for any reason then do it. Even if it's just cause your dog looks like Ivan Campo etc.
frank_spencer Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 The JCL's who piss me off most are the one who whinge and bitch about a player for 90mins and i just want to smack em!!! There was a bloke behind me at the Zenit match who as soon as JJ was about to come on then spent the rest of the match abusing him for no reason! e.g 'fer f??cks sake JJ put a tackle in' a couple of seconds later JJ does and unfortunatly the ball breaks to a Zenit player 'JJ if you cant tackle properly then dont bother!!' for f??cks sake man have you never seen stevie macanespie!?!?
seasoned Traveller Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 If you've not experienced David Cross or Ian Moores then you are indeed a JCL.
exiledwhite2 Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 Everybody has been a jcl at some time. Exactly Folk moan about attendances and then slate any new folk who come to watch the game. Can't have it both ways. If you have to have watched BWFC in the lower divisions to count as a fan then we are limiting ourselves to about 8,000 fans probably. I've not been to many games since we reached the premier, I moved away after we beat Reading, and that somehow means I'm more qualified as a supporter than someone who has watched us solidly for say the last 3 years? Can't be right.
Guest Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 When I first started watching the whites, we were averaging 4-5k if we were lucky. As a 10 year old Lad whos friends all support ManUre I longed for large crowds and the hustle and bustle that they bring. As soon as we got them I moaned that the JCLs stood in my spot on Burden Terrace, it takes longer to get served, harder to get away. And like someone else has already said, we were all JCLs at one stage or another. I just choose to be a JCL when we were in the old Third Div under the wonderful attacking football of Phil Neal!
miamiwhite Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 If you've not experienced David Cross or Ian Moores then you are indeed a JCL. not a patch on mark ring,who lasted at least 10 mins for us in the 80's,coming on as a sub,i think it was against notts county,after rounding the goalkeeper in front of the empty embankment missed the empty net ! even brixton with his ''trusty'' left foot wouldnt have missed that on wednesday
jules_darby Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 When I first started watching the whites, we were averaging 4-5k if we were lucky. As a 10 year old Lad whos friends all support ManUre I longed for large crowds and the hustle and bustle that they bring. As soon as we got them I moaned that the JCLs stood in my spot on Burden Terrace, it takes longer to get served, harder to get away. And like someone else has already said, we were all JCLs at one stage or another. I just choose to be a JCL when we were in the old Third Div under the wonderful attacking football of Phil Neal! Same as. Shouldn't we (or the club) concentrate on making the JCL's regular supporters to solve all problems? When does one transcend from JCL into a "real supporter"? What's it based on? As for JCL's moaning at JJ etc, I've encountered loads of miserable fookers that have been going years and do the same - it aint an exclusive trait.
gamberro Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 I have supported Bolton for years on and off.. would go through phases of match attendance.. have seen us play the likes of Swansea in the lower divisions.. I went to nearly all the home matches ( even without a season ticket ) when we was in the first division under Todd. I have moaned about people just coming to games now we in prem.. I remember kicking off at the FA Cup semi final coz loads of the f00kers came with their packed lunches for a grand day out then didn't sing or nowt.. True, it pisses me off that I can hardly find a seat / ticket for games I could have just bought on the day, coz some 'jcl' came.. but at the end of the day.. we are filling the Reebok. At least they are not spending their money with the scum. If we can brainwash them at the same time, then so be it.
Miss BWFC Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 There's a JCL who sits in front of me and he winds me up so much. I'd be interested to know whether he fucks off Alibob's dad as much as he fucks off me. He sits there slagging off the players, never giving them credit but tries to do it in a way that he thinks is funny but is about as funny as a train crash. I'm not even sure he knows where he is or what he's doing half the time he's that clueless.
Brains Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 I dont have any problem with the more recent fan/JCl whatever you want to call it, so long as they dont come preaching about the bad times. If it wasnt for them, how can we expect to increase our fan base from the days of the the old third division. Any club that achieves the same sort of success that we have achieved over recent years will always attract a wider audience. The question is......will these fans still be with us if it all goes pear shaped? We've seen it all before.....i doubt it very much.
victor meldrew Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 why is every body haing a go at julien clarey "luvvie"
SatanGreavsie Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 I'm not even sure he knows where he is or what he's doing that were me in first half in th'Istanbul 8-[
exiledwhite2 Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 Let's be honest, there weren't too many women went to Burnden So 'Julie come lately' is probably more apt
Exiled Girl Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 Let's be honest, there weren't too many women went to Burnden So 'Julie come lately' is probably more apt There used to be rather a lot of women in the Lever End in the 70s. But maybe you weren't there then?
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