DazBob Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Bacause Al Habsi is doing so well? Why? Would you say he's having a poor season?
Traf Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Whilst preferring AAH to Jussi, I don't think we'd have had any more points this season with him in goal. People on here seem to rate Ngog already: we'd not have him if we hadn't sold AAH. You can't have it both ways when you've more debt than Greece.
only1swanny Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Whilst preferring AAH to Jussi, I don't think we'd have had any more points this season with him in goal. People on here seem to rate Ngog already: we'd not have him if we hadn't sold AAH. You can't have it both ways when you've more debt than Greece. we had to sell any player we could sell.. hence all the touting of Cahill.. I think we are missing Matt Taylor.. and for the right back situation.. maybe we should have kept hold of Hunt.. at least he could defend and had the passion we need !
Arrested development Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 we had to sell any player we could sell.. hence all the touting of Cahill.. I think we are missing Matt Taylor.. and for the right back situation.. maybe we should have kept hold of Hunt.. at least he could defend and had the passion we need ! This would be the Nicky Hunt that can't get in the bristol city team. Big Sam has gone after a fair few wanderers players at west ham. Didn't go after Hunt though. Says everything really. Passion is overrated. Steinsson and Robbo are both passionate.
DazBob Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Whilst preferring AAH to Jussi, I don't think we'd have had any more points this season with him in goal. People on here seem to rate Ngog already: we'd not have him if we hadn't sold AAH. You can't have it both ways when you've more debt than Greece. Agree with that. Whilst I think AAH is far better than what we've got, the same applies for N'Gog. .. and ultimately a goalscorer is more important than a goalkeeper. If we still had AAH I think we'd still be rock bottom, albeit with better goal difference.
bolton va va Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Whilst preferring AAH to Jussi, I don't think we'd have had any more points this season with him in goal. People on here seem to rate Ngog already: we'd not have him if we hadn't sold AAH. You can't have it both ways when you've more debt than Greece. Could we not have kept AAH, bought Ngog & done without 2 more stumps from Burnley for roughly the same cost ?
Garrp Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Could we not have kept AAH, bought Ngog & done without 2 more stumps from Burnley for roughly the same cost ? Yes great idea and how would be playing on the right?
captainmed Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Whatever we say there is simply no excuse at all for going out onto that football pitch and not competing and giving 100%. For me that has happened against Liverpool, Utd and Chelsea already and isn't acceptable for professional footballers. Even if you haven't the same ability as the opposition then lets give 100%, close down and see where it gets you at the end. The Liverpool performance was lethargic and the other two were just as bad. There must be no repeat of this attitide in the forthcoming games. It's somewhat suprising as well for a team of Coyles as instilling confidence, belief and generally motivating his players are the only thing i thought he was good at.
Carlos Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Why? Would you say he's having a poor season? No idea really but Wigan are in the bottom three, the rest of their team must be shit as Al Habsi is the Omani Gordon Banks.
Casino Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Yes great idea and how would be playing on the right? steinnson or boyata tuncay (coyle played him wide right ahead of eagles) kevin davies (in a 5) mark davies, petrov fcuk knows, you tell me
DazBob Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 No idea really but Wigan are in the bottom three, the rest of their team must be shit as Al Habsi is the Omani Gordon Banks. CWP made the same moot point last week. You can't judge a goalkeeper's form based on his team's league position. As I said then, if Wigan had Casillas, Buffon, Neuer or Lloris, etc in goal would they be in a better league position? I doubt it. I saw highlights of Wiggin's game at Villa and had it not been for Al Habsi it would've been as embarrassing as, well, one of our scorelines of late.
tylswhite Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 No idea really but Wigan are in the bottom three, the rest of their team must be shit as Al Habsi is the Omani Gordon Banks. They have had an easier run of fixtures than us too and are only 2 points in front. I think Al Habsi dropped a shot against Norwich that cost them 2 points as well. Jussi in reality has cost us fuck all becuase weve let in a shedload of other goals besides his couple of errors
DazBob Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I think Al Habsi dropped a shot against Norwich that cost them 2 points as well. Jussi in reality has cost us fuck all becuase weve let in a shedload of other goals besides his couple of errors Can't argue with that logic.
bolton va va Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Yes great idea and how would be playing on the right? Thanks, Tuncay or Kakuta would be my first choices until Lee recovers, though there's also Pratley, M Davies, Blake, Ngog & k Davies or the more defensive option of Ricketts (when fit).
tylswhite Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Thanks, Tuncay or Kakuta would be my first choices until Lee recovers, though there's also Pratley, M Davies, Blake, Ngog & k Davies or the more defensive option of Ricketts (when fit). None of them are right sided midfielders or right wingers though are they? You could guarantee if Coyle played one of them there people would be moaning hes playing people out of position.
Garrp Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 steinnson or boyata tuncay (coyle played him wide right ahead of eagles) kevin davies (in a 5) mark davies, petrov fcuk knows, you tell me Homer is the only person I know who said Tuncay was a right winger. he changed his mind after one game. Bayotta and Steinson are defenders, no matter how shit they might be at defending. Daz bob par had a go at coyle for playing davies on the right jules is the only one i know saying davies should play wide right petrov has been out best player on the left this season point is, coyle cant fucking win. whatever he does someone know it all knows more. i dont like eagles, i think hes shit, but hes our best option he would be an adequate backup if CYL didnt get crippled which is what he was bought for
Garrp Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Thanks, Tuncay or Kakuta would be my first choices until Lee recovers, though there's also Pratley, M Davies, Blake, Ngog & k Davies or the more defensive option of Ricketts (when fit). You said could we not have got by without signing Eagles we signed Kakutu at the last minute of the transfer window. again, another one with a crystal ball after the event
HomerJay Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) Homer is the only person I know who said Tuncay was a right winger. he changed his mind after one game. Bayotta and Steinson are defenders, no matter how shit they might be at defending. Daz bob par had a go at coyle for playing davies on the right jules is the only one i know saying davies should play wide right petrov has been out best player on the left this season point is, coyle cant fucking win. whatever he does someone know it all knows more. i dont like eagles, i think hes shit, but hes our best option he would be an adequate backup if CYL didnt get crippled which is what he was bought for i didnt say say he WAS a right winger, i said i prefered him over eagles. and as shite as he was on the right wing, he's not actually done much worse than eagles. i dont actually think we have a decent right winger without ching chong. but as you say, eagles is prob still the best choice there atm. tuncay is certainly not the player i thought he was. Edited October 6, 2011 by HomerJay
tylswhite Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 i didnt say say he WAS a right winger, i said i prefered him over eagles. and as shite as he was on the right wing, he's not actually done much worse than eagles. i dont actually think we have a decent right winger without ching chong. but as you say, eagles is prob still the best choice there atm. tuncay is certainly not the player i thought he was. Tuncay is supposed to be a winger/striker. I looked it up on internet and they all came back with that similar verdict on him. The problem is he is very slow which never helps playing on the wing. Both these two arent fit to lace chungys boots though which isnt really helping.
DazBob Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I always thought Tuncay, at Boro, played just off the front man. I thought he did that pretty well when he was there. I'd like to see him given a chance to play more centrally before judging him/writing him off completely. I think we could be quite effective with him playing just behind N'gog or Klasnic.
jules_darby Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 On the right?? M Davies, I'm telling you it's the future A "midfielder" not a fucking "winger"
tylswhite Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I always thought Tuncay, at Boro, played just off the front man. I thought he did that pretty well when he was there. I'd like to see him given a chance to play more centrally before judging him/writing him off completely. I think we could be quite effective with him playing just behind N'gog or Klasnic. Pratley seems to of been playing that position so Coyle maybe rates him ahead of Tuncay? Its hard to say as we cant really gauge ourselves against most of the teams weve played. We will find out a lot over next 3 to 4 games imo.
SalfordOriginal Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 For a club so short on money why were we spending 2.5m on a reserve? Surely a loan would so My view is coyle is not that great on spotting players along with many other things
bolton va va Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 You said could we not have got by without signing Eagles we signed Kakutu at the last minute of the transfer window. again, another one with a crystal ball after the event No..The question was whether we would have been better off getting by without Eagles & keeping AAH instead. Despite the injury to Lee & there being no out & out competition for the position, Eagles has not been good enough to guarantee his place in the side whereas AAH would almost certainly be our first choice keeper now. This would suggest that we would have been better off keeping AAH. Any comments about "after the event" or "hindsight" are meaningless as the majority of people queried these deals at the time.
frankietheman Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 CWP made the same moot point last week. You can't judge a goalkeeper's form based on his team's league position. As I said then, if Wigan had Casillas, Buffon, Neuer or Lloris, etc in goal would they be in a better league position? I doubt it. I saw highlights of Wiggin's game at Villa and had it not been for Al Habsi it would've been as embarrassing as, well, one of our scorelines of late. Kakuta. Did,nt he play there successfully against Villa?.
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