October 22, 201312 yr Looks to me like they've sloped off to as quiet a corner as they could find. Then the meatheads see them. Ask the club for a room? Aye we'll have your free tickets on the proviso that you provide us with a room to pray in. Folk would be having kittens on here if that was the story. Bang on. Whatever they do certain elements of the media will find a way to twist it into 'bloody Muslims taking liberties'. They went off to pray in a quiet corner until some of West Ham's dickhead brigade decided to start hurling insults and threats, there's only one side in the wrong here
October 22, 201312 yr Fair play to West Ham for trying to build links with local communities - but surely they are culturally sensitive enough to the views some of their own supporters to anticipate that prayers under the stand might provoke a reaction? West Ham are a club who's majority of supporters are white, working class men. Rightly or wrongly - these white, working class men probably feel like their way of life is gradually being eroded. The football is one of the last bastions where they can express themselves. I'm not surprised by the reaction. I'm not excusing it, but I'm not surprised. Kent makes more good points. There is racial tension in that area some of which boils over. If this was West Ham's way of getting the community together, it was misguided
October 22, 201312 yr Looks to me like they've sloped off to as quiet a corner as they could find. Then the meatheads see them. Ask the club for a room? Aye we'll have your free tickets on the proviso that you provide us with a room to pray in. Folk would be having kittens on here if that was the story. Abusing someone who is at peace with their religion during prayer is fucking ignorant whatever flavour your God/Allah/Tooth Fairy is. However, todays majority has had to adapt on so many different levels so not to cause offence harm or distress to the minority. Its not unreasonable for the minority to do the same once in a while when integrating in the environment of the majority. If I went to spend some time as a guest in a Mosque, they wouldn't be happy if I took a pork pie in my picnic - the right thing to do would be to show some respect to their environment. Equally, football isn't a place to pray, Simple as that. At worse they've done it for the reaction, at best they've been a bit naive on a day out.
October 22, 201312 yr Group of people invited to football match to build links with other communities do the one thing guaranteed to say 'we are not the same as you.' Fuck them. It's their right to do that if they wish but it's fucking stupid.
October 22, 201312 yr Seems an odd thing to do at a match and something Id have a chuckle at if I saw up in person. I imagine the people shouting Irons were an intelligent bunch if their sole purpose was to drown out their prayers. No real winners here.
October 22, 201312 yr A lot of football chants are hymns with different words. Not sure how it fits in with this particular row but I thought it needed saying. eg "Someone score a goal, John Thomas" to the tune of cum by yah There's others, probably. Edited October 22, 201312 yr by Spider
October 22, 201312 yr They were shouting 'irons' at them? Well, they've not done their homework on that one, it's actually very much frowned upon...
October 22, 201312 yr As I understand it, depending on what sect they are, they had until getting on for half seven, or as late as midnight, before they were turned into pumpkins. So there's a fair chance they were being cocks.
October 22, 201312 yr Prayer times are one of the very few things common to all strains of Islam throughout the world. There is in fact lots of provision in Islam to combine prayer times or skip them and make up later if you have a reason. You can eat during daylight in Ramadan too if, say, your health demands it. You can even eat pork as a Muslim if tha't proper klempt. Personally I suggest no-one of any religion bothers praying because there's no reason to think that any cunt's listening.
October 22, 201312 yr It's not bad luck to walk under a ladder either, I'm not one for religion, but I reckon' a few moments quiet contemplation a day - to ponder upon life and the universe or just to plan what to make for 'tea' wouldn't go amiss for anyone...
October 22, 201312 yr Yes. Coyle held team selection meetings in there. Edited October 22, 201312 yr by Traf
October 22, 201312 yr Should've faced the East (stand) instead - he was clearly praying to the wrong one.
October 22, 201312 yr How do these muslim determine which way is east? Do they carry a little compass about with them?
October 22, 201312 yr How do these muslim determine which way is east? Do they carry a little compass about with them? The qibla. They want to point towards Mecca (or a big mosque in it, specifically) in Saudi Arabia, but the world is round so it shouldn't matter if you point east or west so long as you're on the approximately correct bearing. In one of my hotel rooms in Morocco the other week there was an arrow on the wall telling them the correct direction and I'm told this would be the case for anywhere where prayer would be likely to take place. I'm sure this all sounds completely mental but it's no weirder than eating a bit of bread symbolising Christ or anything else. Brought to you by the WWays Islamic Affairs correspondent. PS - Just checked and there are apps nowadays. Amazing. Edited October 22, 201312 yr by Maggie Tate
October 22, 201312 yr I was using a compass app, that appeared on my phone whilst abroad once (I hadn't turned off the download thing) to navigate my way around. Anyhow it must've been using up data as the £20 or so I'd topped up disappeared within a day or so (using the phone for nowt else)... Like a thick f*cker I'd presumed the app utilised some form of existing technology within the phone to magnetize it, or sommat.
October 22, 201312 yr Maggie, At my mates work in Bolton,a lady pulls the toilet bin into the cubicle and shits in it on a daily basis. It is thought this may be a regloius act,what with a large proportion of the workforce being muslim etc. Why would one shit in a bin?
October 22, 201312 yr Maggie, At my mates work in Bolton,a lady pulls the toilet bin into the cubicle and shits in it on a daily basis. It is thought this may be a regloius act,what with a large proportion of the workforce being muslim etc. Why would one shit in a bin? Why would they shit into the sink of a multimillion dollar A380 when there is a perfectly good toilet at the side? Because some of them are from the fucking stone age.
October 22, 201312 yr Author Something to do with hygiene I think gonzo, however am not sure how shitting in a bin helps also they ave to enter with a certain foot and leave with the opposite, I have worked all over the Middle East and Africa and there are some sites that you wouldn't believe.
October 22, 201312 yr I think it's weird and pretty ridiculous but I've no problem with them doing it. Those trying to stop them are no better then the fundamentalists they're supposed to be opposing though. If I went out and shouted at everyone in the country who was doing something i disagreed with I'd have no voice, and probably no teeth, we live in a free country, we should be proud of that and the fact that in other countries people can be shot for practicing their faith, not here.
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