Apologies to those that do a tough job and work hard without moaning. Lecturers and even those in training dor a tough job...You know who you are

 

However

 

I have a few of them moaning all the time on my FB wall about pay and conditions...

 

And 3 of the fuckers are posting pics today in expensive ski-ing resorts

 

Now fair enough

 

But stop moaning that you're on the breadline...is it bred into them at PGCE that they must moan about their salaries?!

How does a history teacher have to change his lesson plans year on year?

 

I don't think Ancient Greeks have done much different this year to last.

 

Fucking bobbys job.

 

Now a primary school teacher who was last year teaching year 6, and is now teaching year 3 with a load of foreign kids and council house asbos who cant wipe their own arses but were up killing Xbox zombies at 1am and came to school with Space Raiders for breakfast, fair enough...high school teachers teaching the same subject year after year...fuuuuuuuck off!

 

Specifications change. You don't turn up on a job and tell em that you only know one size of hole to dig and that's the size the fuckers are getting whether they like it or not.

 

Might be teaching about Greeks one year, might be about the Industrial Revolution another year.

You turn up, tell them dig a hole here and there, put some of those metal rod thingies in, some of that noughts and crosses stylee grid stuff - made of the metal rod thingies, laid down, then you get some concrete poured in, slap some breezeblocks and girders up - piece of piss, a f*cking monkey could do it...

 

Edited March 3, 201511 yr by Youri McAnespie

You might well be.

 

The historic 'content' and events remain the same though. The Romans didn't suddenly invent electricity.

 

And if they have to tweak the way it's taught, well my heart bleeds and judging by the emptiness of the staff car park at 4pm I'll hazard a guess they're not all doing 70 hour weeks either.

Ah, you're an expert on an education system in a country you aint lived in for 20 odd years as well?

 

Thank fuck for that. This board would be truly lost without you.

 

 

Just another of the reasons I got out pal. Could see so many things including the education system (refer Zulu's comments on Grammar Schools) going down the pan and deteriorating.

 

Unfettered immigration could only lead to a worsening of the situation but even I did not foresee the importation of grooming gangs from North Africa and Pakistan. That must be an uneasy conundrum for supporters of the multicultural experiment. Of course, they will turn round and wank on about Jimmy Saville, Gary Glitter and other disgusting nonces but, of course they are our own problem to sort out like every country has - we didn't need to import organised gangs to prey on our children.

 

Over to you, my little walnut.

Specifications change. You don't turn up on a job and tell em that you only know one size of hole to dig and that's the size the fuckers are getting whether they like it or not.

 

Might be teaching about Greeks one year, might be about the Industrial Revolution another year.

Specifications may change, but the source material does not . 2 plus 2 is still 4 , h20 is still water, history, physics are all the same and have been since I was at school

Yes it may be tough for the first few years in the job when they change things , but that’s goes for every job, but you learn and keep that information for the next time, if you don’t then you are shit at doing your job. Of all the projects I’ve worked on in 30 odd years no two have been the same, similarity’s  yes the same no, that’s what makes work fun

Just another of the reasons I got out pal. Could see so many things including the education system (refer Zulu's comments on Grammar Schools) going down the pan and deteriorating.

 

Unfettered immigration could only lead to a worsening of the situation but even I did not foresee the importation of grooming gangs from North Africa and Pakistan. That must be an uneasy conundrum for supporters of the multicultural experiment. Of course, they will turn round and wank on about Jimmy Saville, Gary Glitter and other disgusting nonces but, of course they are our own problem to sort out like every country has - we didn't need to import organised gangs to prey on our children.

 

Over to you, my little walnut.

 

 

Except it's not.

 

http://thelearningcurve.pearson.com/index/index-ranking

 

Never mind eh?

And another link for you

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27314075

 

Note where this paradise you buggered off to is in the ranking

So its as much about creating an 'educational economy' as anything. Great, I see the benefits to that and when it comes to freign investment we can show we have a high level of intellect.

 

In actual fact we have kids leaving school who if asked to produce a CV in their own handwriting would struggle not to make it look like it had been done by a cat with a felt tip pen up its arse in the pissing down rain.

 

I would be more impressed if the UK got 90% of NEETS into the workplace.

 

 

In actual fact we have kids leaving school, with 'B' grade GCSE English, who if asked to produce a CV  using a computer with spellcheck and ready access to the rules of grammar, would struggle not to make it look like it had been done by an average level primary school leaver of twenty five or more years ago..

 

Edited it for you to reflect the reality of today.

cant disagree

would appear McDonalds trainee managers get paid as much as teachers...

 

http://jobs.mcdonalds.co.uk/uk/united-kingdom/trainee-manager/jobid6323607-trainee-salaried-manager-manchester-jobs

would appear McDonalds trainee managers get paid as much as teachers...

 

http://jobs.mcdonalds.co.uk/uk/united-kingdom/trainee-manager/jobid6323607-trainee-salaried-manager-manchester-jobs

 

it's a vocation.

it's a vocation.

Clear why they are leaving in droves though

http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching/about-teaching/salary

 

Equally some are very well paid. Why do you want people to feel sorry for you?

And what's wrong with being a McDonald's trainee manager?

And what's wrong with being a McDonald's trainee manager?

Absolutely nothing wrong with being a mcdonalds manager.. Just few people referring to it across threads..

 

And big e.. I don't want people to feel sorry for me.. just winds me up that people that know little about the job are experts.

Clear why they are leaving in droves though

 

I meant McDs

This 22k that keeps gettting banded about.

 

We are aware this is a starting salary arent we?  As in the second you start your first day as a teacher youre on 423 quid a week with 13 weeks hols etc etc.

 

Seems alreet to me.

Absolutely nothing wrong with being a mcdonalds manager.. Just few people referring to it across threads..

And big e.. I don't want people to feel sorry for me.. just winds me up that people that know little about the job are experts.

that can be said for any trade though. I have done some work in schools do I do have some knowledge. Theres good & bad as any career. Unfortunately I saw too many bad during my time which was one of the reasons I opted to stay in the rag trade as a cleaner.

Edited March 3, 201511 yr by no balls

All very interesting this! I started teaching in 2001 and now find myself in a profession that has changed in many ways over the years, but you know what, I knew there was a possibility that this would happen when I started and so why should I moan about it now! In the same way my mates who work in the building trade had to deal with the changes that have come in with their job. I am guaranteed a wage at the end of every month and I do not have to go out and find work - unless I belt someone, my mortgage will be paid each month!!

 

People are right when they say teaching is a vocation (or way of life) but, for me, the positives of this far outweigh the negatives. We have never left the school system and have had 14 weeks off a year since being four years old! I think that is great and cannot think of another rewarding job where you have this many holidays.

 

I have been a HT for nearly three years now and still love the job, someone said earlier about teachers leaving school at 4pm - well they can, aslong as the job is done - everyone is different and some people prefer to work at home. It's about the quality of time - I have known some people who have stayed at school until locking up time, but much time has been spent chatting/gossiping and not working!

 

I remember at uni, I was on my third year of teaching degree and the gov announced that for some teaching courses, people would get a 6k handout - then suddenly all the final year students (who didn't do very well in their exams) decided that this teaching lark looked good and the 6k would be great. They then all turned up in their brand new Citroen Saxos (6k was handy) and crawled over the teaching 'finishing line' - maybe we are now seeing the result of a generation of people who didn't go into the profession for the right reason?!?

 

One thing that is certain is that there will always be change in education because the government changes, research is continually being done which informs how we work, so if you find adapting to change difficult then maybe find something else to do, please don't moan about it as you usually find the person who isn't rowing, finds the time to rock the boat!

Fuck me who found this mon??!!

 

Far too sensible for this place

 

You know nobody will take you seriously until you've invented a swearword or insult. Or fucked a dog.

 

'Twatbadger' came out of my mouth today from somewhere and I blame WWays so beware - its bad for you

I think MrG has been around for years (can't validate this as I'm on my phone).

 

He pops up once a year to put you in your place when it comes to ranting at teachers!

Mr G String?

 

Well put Sir.

 

PS if youve logged in here from "work" delete your history and whatever you do dont click anything that says Lemon Party.

My French teacher was called Mr Gee

Oi Sinead...I think you'll find he's bagging the lazy ones mate

 

QED