Itk Transfer Thread

[tylswhite]

Interesting that the BEN quoting Freedman as saying we have to sell before we get more attacking players in.

 

Goalposts shifted again.

In simple terms we aren't buying anybody. Stuck with this shit all season.

[Guest Blixa]

Ffs, DF confirmed this last year in twitter q&a

Unlikely to be a free gift - still have to pay towards it I'd guess.

[Casino]

Unlikely to be a free gift - still have to pay towards it I'd guess.

 

 

well aye, i often wondered how this would work

 

aye, you can have etoo but you're paying his wages

 

anyway, latest interview i read with freedman says he's heard there is a deal but theres no evidence that it actually exists

 

either way, it sounds like its so vague its worth fook all

[Horwich]

Ive got a screengrab of me asking the question that dougie answered

 

If anyone wants to find the bwfc tweet, it was on 10/07/13 that DF confirmed we have the option of a chelsea player

[scallywell]

Ffs, DF confirmed this last year in twitter q&a

where is it then horwich? I know he said it, so we are just waiting a little longer, how long has Cahill been there now?

[Horwich]

I aint got the time to go back through all bwfcs tweets... Anyone got a way of finding it?? It was posted on 10/07/13

[Casino]

Ive got a screengrab of me asking the question that dougie answered

 

If anyone wants to find the bwfc tweet, it was on 10/07/13 that DF confirmed we have the option of a chelsea player

 

 

and since then he's said as far as he can see, its a figment of the media/coyles imagination

[Horwich]

Has he?? Not seen anything about that.

[Casino]

for example

 

 

David Vaughan and Nathaniel Chalobah are on loan at the City Ground from Sunderland and Chelsea respectively and Freedman says Bolton made enquiries to take both on loan.

While Forest, who Bolton play on Saturday, could match the wages, Freedman says that the demands of the players were too high for The Trotters

“The boy Vaughan and Chalobah are very, very good loans,” Freedman said at his Friday press conference.

 

 

so, lets say we have this deal

 

just how does it work, do you reckon

[Horwich]

I dunno how it works. I was just trying to say that DF confirmed that we have the option of getting a chelsea player on loan. We haven't used that option.

 

You then get people coming on here saying it never existed. I am just trying to show them that DF said it did.

 

I aint arsed to be honest, unless we have the option of 11 chelsea players on loan

[Casino]

haha

 

fair enough

 

i actually am interested how it would work, cos it makes no sense

 

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/11050428.Chelsea_starlet_Nathan_Ake_is_not_OK_for_Bolton_Wanderers/

[jules_darby]

Of course it makes no sense #GartsideDeal

[Horwich]

Its probably not worth anything at all. Chelsea are only gonna let a player leave if its right for that player.

[Casino]

Its probably not worth anything at all. Chelsea are only gonna let a player leave if its right for that player.

 

and the players wants to come

 

and we can afford him

 

its just bollocks

[tylswhite]

Chelsea loan deal or no Chelsea loan deal I couldn't really give a fuck.

 

I think this area is more down to the people above Dougie. Im sure/certain he has asked for plenty of players that would improve us but there doesn't seem to be much help coming his way in that respect.

 

Dougie is probably as desperate for new players as we are, cant blame him on the transfer front imo. The club need to either back him or fucking sack him.

[Casino]

reet, im a fan but i still don't get this 'back him' lark

 

how do we back him if the rules don't let us

[Horwich]

Manage the club properly? We have had around £50m in parachute money in the last 3 seasons and now we haven't got a pot to piss in.

 

Many other clubs in the league would have loved that.

 

The club is managed badly from top to bottom

[tylswhite]

reet, im a fan but i still don't get this 'back him' lark

 

how do we back him if the rules don't let us

Well if there is fuck all left in the budget to back him then some fucker isn't doing their job right.

[Horwich]

Correct

[scallywell]

I dunno how it works. I was just trying to say that DF confirmed that we have the option of getting a chelsea player on loan. We haven't used that option.

 

You then get people coming on here saying it never existed. I am just trying to show them that DF said it did.

 

I aint arsed to be honest, unless we have the option of 11 chelsea players on loan

I've seen the interview myself your not loosing your marbles,I just think they are trying to make the Cahill deal sound better than what it was

[only1swanny]

The loan deal would be pointless anyway.

 

Dervite.. People raving about him

.different player for us.

Had Oldham fans telling me that Craig Davies is great.. Nothing

Spearing is a shell of his former self

Medo as above same for pratley wheaten..

Beckford has a track record of scoring and we've killed him

Andrews is an Irish international and we can't get a game.

Cyl was immense and he's struggling like feck

Even Danny and fernery who made huge impacts are struggling

 

Every player we have isn't performing under freedman so any loaner would go back worse for it.

[Guest Blixa]

The loan deal would be pointless anyway.

Dervite.. People raving about him

.different player for us.

Had Oldham fans telling me that Craig Davies is great.. Nothing

Spearing is a shell of his former self

Medo as above same for pratley wheaten..

Beckford has a track record of scoring and we've killed him

Andrews is an Irish international and we can't get a game.

Cyl was immense and he's struggling like feck

Even Danny and fernery who made huge impacts are struggling

Every player we have isn't performing under freedman so any loaner would go back worse for it.

Both the Juke and Mason in second spell counter that argument.

 

The difference? Both were playing in a system and position that suited them.

 

That's not the case with many of the above.

 

Worryingly, preseason is when you sort out stuff like that, but that has not happened.

 

Saying that, I still think a target man and a fit Mark Davies will paper over some of the cracks. He isn't going to be sacked anytime soon, so that's the best we can hope for.

 

I think deadline day might get interesting if some bids come in. It'll make of break us.

[ex_midlandwhite]

Manage the club properly? We have had around £50m in parachute money in the last 3 seasons and now we haven't got a pot to piss in.

 

Many other clubs in the league would have loved that.

 

The club is managed badly from top to bottom

Many other clubs in this league have had that and are still in this league. Three clubs now have much bigger parachutes.

 

Those other clubs have also changed the manager plenty of times and are still in this league.

 

If you aren't the 1 in 5/6 (guess - it isnt many) that goes straight back up then recent history suggests it can take years, parachutes or no parachutes

[superwhitesub]

Premiership bounceback article

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/championship/10826050/How-often-do-relegated-Premier-League-clubs-bounce-straight-back-from-the-Championship.html
 

 

[ex_midlandwhite]

So in essence the parachutes are spent on restructuring the wage bill. You can have wage drops in contracts to a degree but the players have the power so they aren't what they should be. Seems Rovers have same trouble.

 

Which is what Gartside said about Prem 2, the financial security to actually challenge and not be wary about a 75% fall in turnover