To get into Manchester today

 

 

No communication until you get down the slip road

 

Uncaring cunts

At last report the missus was in sainsbury on trinity street and the roads were no problem

At last report the missus was in sainsbury on trinity street and the roads were no problem

Was bad there earlier apparently

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/14985677.VIDEO__UPDATE__Road_reopened_after_man_is_knocked_down_by_car_in_town_centre/

Yeah she must've gone up there just after it reopened.

Bad do if the road get shut.

Went to winter wonderland at the Trafford centre today.

 

Honestly never seen anything like it afterwards. We waited in the car for 20 minutes and couldn't even get out of our parking space.

 

Gave up and spent a few hours in Trafford centre. Not seen a place as busy in my life.

Went to winter wonderland at the Trafford centre today.

 

Honestly never seen anything like it afterwards. We waited in the car for 20 minutes and couldn't even get out of our parking space.

 

Gave up and spent a few hours in Trafford centre. Not seen a place as busy in my life.

good thing about metro over this way, anything Manc based airport/ centre, and Trafford centre is a piece of piss

The fuckwittery continues

 

A34 / Upper Brook Street to be shut for a month from next week

 

Oxford Road closed at the same time

 

Going to be uttter, utter chaos everywhere

 

TFGM should be sued. Incompetence of the highest order

 

Again, again, and again

The fuckwittery continues

A34 / Upper Brook Street to be shut for a month from next week

Oxford Road closed at the same time

Going to be uttter, utter chaos everywhere

TFGM should be sued. Incompetence of the highest order

Again, again, and again

Think Oxford rd will be open again when brook street closes, brook street closed from 9th oxford rd 4th -8th.

Think Oxford rd will be open again when brook street closes, brook street closed from 9th oxford rd 4th -8th.

Ahh ok

 

It's still a farce when the roads are busiest all year

 

You can't get up Portland st to the A6 anymore and Princess St will be closed to cars

 

It's going to be hell

 

TFGM fucking over drivers systematically

 

I'll get the train for a month. Standing room only on 2 carriages for 35 minutes

 

That's when the cunts show up

 

It's absolutely ridiculous

All a massive "told you so" two fingers up from TfGM because the referendum on Congestion Charging didn't go the way they'd hoped.

As are 'afternoon/evening' peak prices on the trains (according to a train driver in the pub)...

All a massive "told you so" two fingers up from TfGM because the referendum on Congestion Charging didn't go the way they'd hoped.

Despite the fact TfGM didn't actually want congestion charge. They were told by central government they could only have money for investment in public transport if they brought in a congestion charge.

And when they didn't get what they NEEDED rather than wanted they them sulked.

motorways dead this morning

 

a rare treat.

 

I almost enjoyed coming to work. Almost.

Time for the introduction of two layers of car tax. One entitles you to drive any time, the other, much cheaper, entitles you to drive any time except between 7.00 and 9.30 or 16.30 and 18.00.

Drivers using the lower tariff will get a number of amnesty tokens annually for in case of emergency use but once these tokens are used your car will be impounded.

Lorries would only be able to drive outside the peak times.

ANPR cameras could generate the proof of driving time.

Edited January 3, 20179 yr by MickyD

My Mrs works for TFGM, I've ran this vendetta theory past her and she thinks it's tin foil hat stuff, granted she isn't setting out strategy though

 

I find it quite hard to believe that they will be actively trying to fuck things up

 

Just a mountain of work that needs doing. If you look at the numbers of people living and / or working in Manchester City Centre now vs 30 years a go it's gone through the roof. Yet you can't double the width of a city centre road

 

The trains continue to be an issue with a poor service and limited carriages but that sits outside of TFGM I believe

Edited January 3, 20179 yr by birch-chorley

This is nothing. Wait until many tens of thousands of new homes are built. Inadequate public transport, more cars on packed roads, more pollution etc...

Costs will rise yet more.

Time for the introduction of two layers of car tax. One entitles you to drive any time, the other, much cheaper, entitles you to drive any time except between 7.00 and 9.30 or 16.30 and 18.00.

Drivers using the lower tariff will get a number of amnesty tokens annually for in case of emergency use but once these tokens are used your car will be impounded.

Lorries would only be able to drive outside the peak times.

ANPR cameras could generate the proof of driving time.

 

 

so, hitting folk who are going to work

 

fantastic

Dunno, I got to Radcliffe just before the offpeak started, tram turned up bang on 9.30, was in work 35 mins later, 50 mins after setting out, for £4.30.

moving on a touch, LBC have been covering the cost of train commutes

 

the preferred solution of many seemed to be nationalisation - which they claim would reduce fares

 

now, do these lines make money?

 

if so, im all ears, but if not, why the fcuk should i be subsidising southerners travel to work costs, when the trains we have up here are dreadful

 

i exclude virgin in this, as the few a year i get to london on a saturday are great

 

im aware that some of the private companies receive subsidies, but its way too confusing for me to understand

Edited January 3, 20179 yr by Casino

Time for the introduction of two layers of car tax. One entitles you to drive any time, the other, much cheaper, entitles you to drive any time except between 7.00 and 9.30 or 16.30 and 18.00.

Drivers using the lower tariff will get a number of amnesty tokens annually for in case of emergency use but once these tokens are used your car will be impounded.

Lorries would only be able to drive outside the peak times.

ANPR cameras could generate the proof of driving time.

 

You have to be taking the piss.

Time for the introduction of two layers of car tax. One entitles you to drive any time, the other, much cheaper, entitles you to drive any time except between 7.00 and 9.30 or 16.30 and 18.00.

Drivers using the lower tariff will get a number of amnesty tokens annually for in case of emergency use but once these tokens are used your car will be impounded.

Lorries would only be able to drive outside the peak times.

ANPR cameras could generate the proof of driving time.

How about less tax for people that don't drive on the motorway?

more cameras, more fines, less space.

 

That's all they want to do.

How about less tax for people that don't drive on the motorway?

 

Shhhh, I use the back roads for my commute and every fucker will be doing it!

rough calc, the more fuel you use, the more you use the roads

 

fcuk road tax off and put it on fuel

 

but that would hit hauliers and affect consumers at the tills

more cameras, more fines, less space.

 

That's all they want to do.

They generally only make money in fines if folk park where they shouldn't or speed

 

So there's an easy way to fuck em over on that one

 

As for Manc traffic, aye it was a pain in the city centre when I drove in but even when there wasnt road works traffic into Manc from the south was mental, queues from Knutsford so clearly too many cars on the roads - same from horwich into Manc and the m602

 

The tramworks need doing and I find them a much better alternative to driving in

 

Fuck the trains though, no way I'd use them each day