May 10, 201511 yr I am happy the tories won but for the first time in my life i got involved with a political party. UKIP I joined last year, went to meetings ,and was asked to stand as a councillor. i picked up 400 votes .It really is a tiny group of people trying to make a change and yet we got a big chunk of the national vote.I hope the 3 councillors we have in Bolton can stand up to the dickheads that have been running the council
May 10, 201511 yr Are all labour voters closet united fans! A very similar trait. The referee Parked the bus Focusing on the league Focusing on the cup Nowt to play for And so on I've read some insulting stuff about Labour supporters on here but closet munchen is beyond the pale. Hang your head in shame stevie!
May 10, 201511 yr I am happy the tories won but for the first time in my life i got involved with a political party. UKIP I joined last year, went to meetings ,and was asked to stand as a councillor. i picked up 400 votes .It really is a tiny group of people trying to make a change and yet we got a big chunk of the national vote.I hope the 3 councillors we have in Bolton can stand up to the dickheads that have been running the council what are ukips policies at a local level?
May 10, 201511 yr You do know that one of the UKIP councillors is Sean Hornby who is an even bigger dickhead than the current incumbents?
May 10, 201511 yr Aye, Google will tell you the rest. Anyway, what the fuck has happened to Charlotte Church.
May 10, 201511 yr Aye, Google will tell you the rest. Anyway, what the fuck has happened to Charlotte Church. The Welsh Russell Brand?
May 10, 201511 yr Author Another millionaire not willing to relinquish their vast wealth for the good of others they so dearly care about, instead just shouting a load of shit at "the bogeymen".
May 10, 201511 yr She feels like "vomiting her heart out" Poor kid They just need to better understand democracy
May 10, 201511 yr Social media tells me dave' selling the NHS next week and going round to disabled people's houses evicting them and generally roughing them up. One of my wife nieces (29 year old btw) came out with much the same hysteria on Friday morning. She also thanked people who didn't vote labour for condemning her wheelchair bound dad to an early grave as he would no longer receive the drugs he needs to cope with his MS. My wife showed me these comments on her Facebook page as i deleted her from mine months ago as I got tired of her playing the "racist" card to any tory /ukip voters. Now this girl has probably only held down a job for no longer than 6 months in her entire life. So you would have thought she and her siblings (all around the same age and still living at home) would support her mother in helping her disabled father by doing the odd task around the house or even doing something to help the the local MS society where her dad attends? But no not a bit of it. They won't even cut the grass, cook meals or put a piece of wallpaper up. Not one of them has learned to drive and I and the wife end up ferrying her dad around and taking their mum shopping when we can. They have never raised a single £ for MS whilst me and the missus have raised nearly £30k over the past 12 years, Yet she has the audacity to call me racist scum for not voting the way she wants. Edited May 10, 201511 yr by bgoefc
May 10, 201511 yr She feels like "vomiting her heart out" Poor kid They just need to better understand democracy Why do I sense that sentiment only applies in one direction?
May 10, 201511 yr You and your wife are clearly better people. But what you're describing is more of an indictment of modern society than it is of politics. Scum are just using politics as an excuse.
May 10, 201511 yr One of my wife nieces (29 year old btw) came out with much the same hysteria on Friday morning. She also thanked people who didn't vote labour for condemning her wheelchair bound dad to an early grave as he would no longer receive the drugs he needs to cope with his MS. My wife showed me these comments on her Facebook page as i deleted her from mine months ago as I got tired of her playing the "racist" card to any tory /ukip voters. Now this girl has probably only held down a job for no longer than 6 months in her entire life. So you would have thought she and her siblings (all around the same age and still living at home) would support her mother in helping her disabled father by doing the odd task around the house or even doing something to help the the local MS society where her dad attends? But no not a bit of it. They won't even cut the grass, cook meals or put a piece of wallpaper up. Not one of them has learned to drive and I and the wife end up ferrying her dad around and taking their mum shopping when we can. They have never raised a single £ for MS whilst me and the missus have raised nearly £30k over the past 12 years, Yet she has the audacity to call me racist scum for not voting the way she wants. Send her a copy of your posting on her birthday, preferably pasted on cardboard.
May 10, 201511 yr You and your wife are clearly better people. But what you're describing is more of an indictment of modern society than it is of politics. Scum are just using politics as an excuse. The argument that Labour are simple for the layabout workshy is as ridiculous and insulting as saying the Tories are a bunch of evil Dickensian Scrooge types.
May 10, 201511 yr One of my wife nieces (29 year old btw) came out with much the same hysteria on Friday morning. She also thanked people who didn't vote labour for condemning her wheelchair bound dad to an early grave as he would no longer receive the drugs he needs to cope with his MS. My wife showed me these comments on her Facebook page as i deleted her from mine months ago as I got tired of her playing the "racist" card to any tory /ukip voters. Now this girl has probably only held down a job for no longer than 6 months in her entire life. So you would have thought she and her siblings (all around the same age and still living at home) would support her mother in helping her disabled father by doing the odd task around the house or even doing something to help the the local MS society where her dad attends? But no not a bit of it. They won't even cut the grass, cook meals or put a piece of wallpaper up. Not one of them has learned to drive and I and the wife end up ferrying her dad around and taking their mum shopping when we can. They have never raised a single £ for MS whilst me and the missus have raised nearly £30k over the past 12 years, Yet she has the audacity to call me racist scum for not voting the way she wants. Kick her in the cunt
May 10, 201511 yr The argument that Labour are simple for the layabout workshy is as ridiculous and insulting as saying the Tories are a bunch of evil Dickensian Scrooge types.I'd suggest both sets get their rewards in proportionally equal measures. At least one lot are tipping something in. Somewhere in the middle is a modicum of decency and common sense. Edited May 10, 201511 yr by Smiffs
May 10, 201511 yr Flawed that Malc, you are assuming people would vote the same way if your MalcolmW electoral system was in place. Quite right. But it is the best (only?) place to start, and in fact very few would change, and they would very largely have been tactical voters in the real election anyway. Still it will keep me quiet for a little while. I have a concern about pensions expertise in the new Parliament, by the way. Not only has the (LibDem) minister, Professor Webb, been deposed by a Conservative but also the shadow minister (McClymont) and the chair of the Works and Pensions Select Committee (Dame Anne Begg) were blown away by the SNP.
May 10, 201511 yr It's understandable that people are angry about not getting to spend other peoples money.
May 10, 201511 yr Does anyone find it ironic that these anti capitalist mongalongs use mulitbillion dollar multinationals such as Facebook twitter, iPhone/apple and a host of companies making billions such bad the telecoms industry, as a platform to spread their backward ideologies? Fucking hypocritical.
May 10, 201511 yr Why do I sense that sentiment only applies in one direction? it doesn't Feel free to expand Edited May 10, 201511 yr by boltondiver
May 10, 201511 yr Does anyone find it ironic that these anti capitalist mongalongs use mulitbillion dollar multinationals such as Facebook twitter, iPhone/apple and a host of companies making billions such bad the telecoms industry, as a platform to spread their backward ideologies? Fucking hypocritical. Aye, at least Youri on here seems to live in a hedge and eat from the bins at the back of Burnden Asda.
May 10, 201511 yr I'd suggest both sets get their rewards in proportionally equal measures. At least one lot are tipping something in. Somewhere in the middle is a modicum of decency and common sense. Now that is ironic. Somewhere in the middle are the LD's but no one votes for them bacause the middle ground is not a vote winner and they get unfairly blamed for lacking credibility. Take the issue of tuition fees. Introduced by labour, increased by virtue of the Tories policy preference winning out over their minority coalition partners. Who do the students and everyone blame for this, the LD's!! Edited May 10, 201511 yr by Farrelli
May 10, 201511 yr Now that is ironic. Somewhere in the middle are the LD's but no one votes for them bacause the middle ground is not a vote winner and they get unfairly blamed for lacking credibility. Take the issue of tuition fees. Introduced by labour, increased by virtue of the Tories policy preference winning out over their minority coalition partners. Who do the students and everyone blame for this, the LD's!! The Lib Dems are left of centre. The condemnation of Lib Dems on tuition fees tells us more about the stupidity of the moaners
May 10, 201511 yr Now that is ironic. Somewhere in the middle are the LD's but no one votes for them bacause the middle ground is not a vote winner and they get unfairly blamed for lacking credibility. Take the issue of tuition fees. Introduced by labour, increased by virtue of the Tories policy preference winning out over their minority coalition partners. Who do the students and everyone blame for this, the LD's!! The problem for LDs was that they had no expectation of power when they made the promise on tuition fees. They were then placed in a position where coalition with Conservatives gave a viable coalition government, whereas coalition with Labour would not do so. Confidence in the international markets would have fallen disastrously if they had not acted as they did. But those affected by the about turn on tuition fees, many of whom had been attracted to vote LD by that promise, vowed 'never' to vote LD again. It was always known that the LD repesentation would fall, but the sheer scale of it was a shock. Clearly it was not helped by their previously strong position in Scotland. But now 6 of their 8 MPs are in the North of England, and none in their tradition West Country base. By the way, Asquith's Liberal cabinet which went to war in 1914 has some interesting features. HHA himself, although English, represented East Fife, and Churchill (First Lord of the Admiralty) represented Dundee at that time. The Chancellor of the Exchequer was Lloyd George (Carnarvon Boroughs), and the Home Secretary was McKenna (North Monmouthshire), but at least the Foreign Secretary, Sir Ernest Grey, represented that most English of seats, Berwick-upon-Tweed.
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