jturner Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 he also sold the best player we had And paid more money for Elmander than Sam paid for Anelka. And then he fell out with Nolan and paid more money for Muamba.The damage was done in Megson's time.Every manager since then has had nothing like his budget because he squandered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I still think Coyle was a Johnny Evan's tackle away from doing something pretty special. Then he went fucking insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 4, 2015 Site Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2015 Flaw in your logic You assume our PPG would have remained constant and not gotten worse under him. We all know where that was going. And you ASSUME it would have dropped. Nobody KNOWS where it was going - it's all assumption whatever side of the fence you sit on. The FACTS might not sit comfortably, but they are undeniable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Megsons job was made impossible from the start as in some fans eyes they expected Jose or pepe to be appointed. He made some bad moves but so did Coyle,freedman and now Lennon, the bitterness towards him is embarrassing he must be laughing is cock off now at us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Megsons job was made impossible from the start as in some fans eyes they expected Jose or pepe to be appointed. He made some bad moves but so did Coyle,freedman and now Lennon, the bitterness towards him is embarrassing he must be laughing is cock off now at us Aye laughing his cock off at us in his new job. Where is that can you remind me? The fans did not expect a massive name (well apart from the odd not right) that's bollocks but we certainly didn't expect Megson. The guy had been a cunt everywhere he had been and if everyone in football understands eel what has he done since?. It was always going to end in tears and thats why AT THE TIME it was a bad appointment for me. He may have kept us up, with a much better squad of players than his successors, we will never know. He was still a terrible choice and the start of our slide to oblivion. Last word from me about Megson as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Aye laughing his cock off at us in his new job. Where is that can you remind me? The fans did not expect a massive name (well apart from the odd not right) that's bollocks but we certainly didn't expect Megson. The guy had been a cunt everywhere he had been and if everyone in football understands eel what has he done since?. It was always going to end in tears and thats why AT THE TIME it was a bad appointment for me. He may have kept us up, with a much better squad of players than his successors, we will never know. He was still a terrible choice and the start of our slide to oblivion. Last word from me about Megson as well.correct nobody expected him but thats not his fault! Someone comes knocking with a better deal your off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 And you ASSUME it would have dropped. Nobody KNOWS where it was going - it's all assumption whatever side of the fence you sit on. The FACTS might not sit comfortably, but they are undeniable.It's not just blind assumption though is it. But anyway... The FACTS are that he was sacked with us in the relegation zone because he didn't meet the quota of points set by the board They are undeniable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 It's not just blind assumption though is it. But anyway... The FACTS are that he was sacked with us in the relegation zone because he didn't meet the quota of points set by the board They are undeniable I do agree it was time for him to go. It was the point of no return. But you can't deny he met all his targets previously and did half decent job in the face of massive adversity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I do agree it was time for him to go. It was the point of no return. But you can't deny he met all his targets previously and did half decent job in the face of massive adversity Lisbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Lisbon Aye last 16 of the UEFA cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 5, 2015 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2015 fcuking lisbon this really gets on my tits our first away game in europe - 4000 wanderers fans millions of miles from home tell me the team fatty put out? as for lisbon, they were better than us at bolton theyd have been better than us in lisbon we were never going to win that competition and if we had it was worth fcuk all in the scheme of things - yes, it wouldve been nice to win it but zenit were streets in front of us if davies et al, hadn't sulked through the wigan game against 10 men for two hours, the decision wouldve been vindicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Aye last 16 of the UEFA cup.Not saying he didEverything wrong But Lisbon and the Saturday after at Wigan were hardly managerial master strokes were they? In fact in terms of terrible man management and clear Mismanagement, they don't come much more compelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 5, 2015 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2015 Walker, N'Gotty, Okocha, Fernandes (Nolan 56), Borgetti (Davies 56), Giannakopoulos, O'Brien (Nakata 66), Faye, Ben Haim, Diouf, Pedersen. we played weakened teams nearly all the way through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 5, 2015 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2015 anyway, fcuk off with megson on here!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 fcuking lisbon this really gets on my tits our first away game in europe - 4000 wanderers fans millions of miles from home tell me the team fatty put out? as for lisbon, they were better than us at bolton theyd have been better than us in lisbon we were never going to win that competition and if we had it was worth fcuk all in the scheme of things - yes, it wouldve been nice to win it but zenit were streets in front of us if davies et al, hadn't sulked through the wigan game against 10 men for two hours, the decision wouldve been vindicated FFS Really?? His JOB is to get the most out of the players He absolutely massively miscalculated with that debacle The Wigan performance was entirely his making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 He's not the only manager to fall victim of putting out weakened teams in cup competitions. In isolation it was a mistake. But overall he did a decent job in those first two seasons at Bolton all things considered. He should never have been appointed in the first place may I add and the bloke did himself no favours. But he did a decent job results wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 He's not the only manager to fall victim of putting out weakened teams in cup competitions. In isolation it was a mistake. But overall he did a decent job in those first two seasons at Bolton all things considered. He should never have been appointed in the first place may I add and the bloke did himself no favours. But he did a decent job results wise. OC, who many day was the biggest disaster ever, also had a period when he did a decent job. Until Utd away or Stoke at Wembley for example As for Megson; most of the first season yeah sure, but you aren't having "2 years" as season 2 was a disaster with that group of players....hence us only being on 18 points and in relegation when he was booted And what's this managerial genius done since? Fuck me, it's bad enough thinking about our current plight without folk trying to make up that that cunt was decent too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 OC, who many day was the biggest disaster ever, also had a period when he did a decent job. Until Utd away or Stoke at Wembley for example As for Megson; most of the first season yeah sure, but you aren't having "2 years" as season 2 was a disaster with that group of players....hence us only being on 18 points and in relegation when he was booted And what's this managerial genius done since? Fuck me, it's bad enough thinking about our current plight without folk trying to make up that that cunt was decent too Season 1 he kept us up with bunch of mentalists Sammy Lee signed from a 4 point start. Season 2 we finished mid table and got to last 16 of UEFA cup. Season 3 he was sacked with us in relegation zone after a 4 match unbeaten run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted November 5, 2015 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2015 And you ASSUME it would have dropped. Nobody KNOWS where it was going - it's all assumption whatever side of the fence you sit on. The FACTS might not sit comfortably, but they are undeniable. Yet oddly Coyle, 33%, had a better win ratio than Megson, 27% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Season 1 he kept us up with bunch of mentalists Sammy Lee signed from a 4 point start. Season 2 we finished mid table and got to last 16 of UEFA cup. Season 3 he was sacked with us in relegation zone after a 4 match unbeaten run. Season 3 I meant So an unbeaten run and we were still in relegation? Yeah good start And, again, the players did not want to work with him. There's another fact As for the Sammy Lee save; I don't think anyone actually believed we would ever go down that season at all. It was a good group and Sammy Lee just had them playing far too unnaturally from what they were used too Too much change too soon. It was hardly a miracle keeping them up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted November 5, 2015 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2015 95% of managers are shite. Its all about being in the right place at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Yet oddly Coyle, 33%, had a better win ratio than Megson, 27%A FACT eh cheese? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 5, 2015 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2015 Yet oddly Coyle, 33%, had a better win ratio than Megson, 27% all megsons games were in the prem another fact the wage bill grew (big time) under coyle theres another as an aside, win ration means fcuk all, i really dont know why sky et al get hung up on it ppg at least has some relevance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted November 5, 2015 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2015 all megsons games were in the prem another fact the wage bill grew (big time) under coyle theres another as an aside, win ration means fcuk all, i really dont know why sky et al get hung up on it ppg at least has some relevance if you take out OC's 10 championship games, of which we won 3, his win ratio very marginally improves (from 33.33 to 33.62)!! someone else can work out PPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 if you take out OC's 10 championship games, of which we won 3, his win ratio very marginally improves (from 33.33 to 33.62)!! someone else can work out PPG Casino will not like this FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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