Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 11, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2018 I have no doubt that these decisions either work, in which case you are a winner, or they don't, in which case you're a loser. Brown was a massive loser. And regarding Frank's point that he was just the signatory for the sale, yes, he was, and the buck stopped there. He'd have expected the plaudits had things gone well. He can't, therefore, not accept the criticism when things didn't go well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Always make me laugh when folk concern themselves with decisions such as that. Â It didn't affect a single person in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 11, 2018 Moderators Share Posted February 11, 2018 Always make me laugh when folk concern themselves with decisions such as that.  It didn't affect a single person in the country. I think that's bollocks  Maybe somebody who actually knows can explain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Remainer surely? After all it is her signature on the Single European Act which started the move to European Union from the Common Market. Â "No, No, No" to quote herself. She was misled into signing and came to realise that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I think that's bollocks  Maybe somebody who actually knows can explain My life wasn't in any way affected by Gordon Brown selling some gold.  Either was yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 11, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2018 My life wasn't in any way affected by Gordon Brown selling some gold. Â Either was yours. Â So, selling a few billion pounds worth of gold for half a dozen beans didn't affect you? Did his subsequent need to recoup that few million pounds not affect you either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 So, selling a few billion pounds worth of gold for half a dozen beans didn't affect you? Did his subsequent need to recoup that few million pounds not affect you either? How did it affect you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 11, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2018 How did it affect you? Borrowing has to be paid back with interest. Not keeping a bit of your income in reserve for tougher times is folly. With lower interest payments and unnecessary public spending, more would have been available for genuine needs like nhs etc. Everyone gets affected in one way or another, even if we don't know about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 11, 2018 Moderators Share Posted February 11, 2018 Surely the best bit was him telling everybody we were about to sell loads of it thus depressing the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Borrowing has to be paid back with interest. Not keeping a bit of your income in reserve for tougher times is folly. With lower interest payments and unnecessary public spending, more would have been available for genuine needs like nhs etc. Everyone gets affected in one way or another, even if we don't know about it. We don't know about it. So in the grand scheme of things it's largely irrelivent. Â It's only important to make a point. Nobody in this country suffered because we sold some gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted February 11, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2018 We don't know about it. So in the grand scheme of things it's largely irrelivent. Â It's only important to make a point. Nobody in this country suffered because we sold some gold. To be fair though, there was really no need to sell the gold or tell the market beforehand that we were going to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 11, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) To be fair though, there was really no need to sell the gold or tell the market beforehand that we were going to do it. Â Backing up the economy with gold reserves is a bit daft and rather archaic. As proven after we sold half of ours, the price fluctuates massively, so it's probably not a bad thing to sell it off and invest in something a bit more stable. As you say, it was a mistake to inform the market beforehand, but I'm guessing that was probably unavoidable legally. The fact its value rocketed in the years afterwards makes it look more stupid than it actually was, but sort of proves the point that gold isn't the most reliable asset. As Gonzo says, nobody really gives a shit anyway apart from people wanting to score political points. Edited February 11, 2018 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 11, 2018 Moderators Share Posted February 11, 2018 Nobody gives a shit because they think it doesn't affect them  But it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 12, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) Nobody gives a shit because they think it doesn't affect them  But it does  If he'd sold it at it's peak, the difference would have covered 3 weeks worth of payments towards the public deficit. A vast amount of money, but not enough to affect any normal person in any way whatsoever. And the asset didn't just disappear when he sold it, as some would have you believe. It was invested in other assets which were considered more stable at the time. The global crash in 2008 made it all meaningless anyway. Edited February 12, 2018 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted February 12, 2018 Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 Do you reckon MT would have been a Brexiter or a Remainer? Â Â I reckon she would have stoutly upheld the will of the people irrespective of her own views (which, by the way, I believe would have gravitated towards Leave after starting as Remain). Â All conjecture of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I reckon she would have stoutly upheld the will of the people irrespective of her own views (which, by the way, I believe would have gravitated towards Leave after starting as Remain). Â All conjecture of course. Were you in the UK in 1983? If so how did you vote in the General Election that year? Labour with their manifesto commitment to leave Europe or Conservative and Remain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted February 12, 2018 Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) Were you in the UK in 1983? If so how did you vote in the General Election that year? Labour with their manifesto commitment to leave Europe or Conservative and Remain? Â 1) Yes I was. 2) Mind your own business. Edited February 12, 2018 by bolty58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Stick a blue rosette on a pig and Bolty would vote for it. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I reckon she would have stoutly upheld the will of the people irrespective of her own views (which, by the way, I believe would have gravitated towards Leave after starting as Remain).  All conjecture of course.  Thatcher would have been an absolute staunch remainer and wouldn't have even asked the question of the British people. Without any doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Thatcher would have been an absolute staunch remainer and wouldn't have even asked the question of the British people. Without any doubt.  Then how do you explain the "No, No, No!" outburst? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Then how do you explain the "No, No, No!" outburst? Â When it came to the crunch of a referendum, which side was she on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 12, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2018 When it came to the crunch of a referendum, which side was she on? He'll come out with some shit like "that referendum was about the common market, not membership of a European super state", or some equally made up bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 He'll come out with some shit like "that referendum was about the common market, not membership of a European super state", or some equally made up bollocks. Â It's ok, I'll just show the picture of that jumper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted February 13, 2018 Members Share Posted February 13, 2018 It's ok, I'll just show the picture of that jumper! Â Â Show any picture you want matey. I won't give a flying - just like I don;t give a flying fuck what that worthless turd thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted February 13, 2018 Members Share Posted February 13, 2018 Stick a blue rosette on a pig and Bolty would vote for it. Â Â Â This is not correct - mainly as pigs are generally socialists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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