Members Rudy Posted May 16, 2022 Members Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) We can speculate all we want but the valuation of a player is usually spot on these days. market , salary and length of contract remaining. Its then what the board is happy to accept and whatever that is i trust this board. Edited May 16, 2022 by Rudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 16 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: I think world class stretches it just a bit. I think if you do some homework MK you’ll find that Celtic, not so much Rangers, have one of the Worlds largest followings. These are two massive clubs in anyones language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: I think if you do some homework MK you’ll find that Celtic, not so much Rangers, have one of the Worlds largest followings. These are two massive clubs in anyones language. I know how big the support is but neither are any where near world class clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 OK, so what do you consider World Class? Having one of the games largest fan bases doesn’t count then? You might not like to accept it but they’re up there with the Real’s, Manures and Liverpools of this world and to me that makes them “world class.” as a club in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 16, 2022 Members Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, Whitesince63 said: OK, so what do you consider World Class? Having one of the games largest fan bases doesn’t count then? You might not like to accept it but they’re up there with the Real’s, Manures and Liverpools of this world and to me that makes them “world class.” as a club in my opinion. You’re confusing followings with class And neither put Either of them in the same tier as Real Madrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: I think if you do some homework MK you’ll find that Celtic, not so much Rangers, have one of the Worlds largest followings. These are two massive clubs in anyones language. put both in the Prem they will be at the bottom half every season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 16, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, little whitt said: put both in the Prem they will be at the bottom half every season Not for long. Prem money= better players. They'd soon be challenging at the top half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 16, 2022 Members Share Posted May 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Not for long. Prem money= better players. They'd soon be challenging at the top half. Quite possibly but to class them In the same bracket in terms of stature of Madrid is way off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, little whitt said: put both in the Prem they will be at the bottom half every season Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 16, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Rudy said: Quite possibly but to class them In the same bracket in terms of stature of Madrid is way off It is, but I was referring to LW's comments. Leicester, West Ham, Brighton, Wolves etc have all done well in the Premier league without having the level of RM. We did for a while too. Celtic and Rangers would both cement their places and gradually start to challenge at the too half and beyond given the money and opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 16, 2022 Members Share Posted May 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It is, but I was referring to LW's comments. Leicester, West Ham, Brighton, Wolves etc have all done well in the Premier league without having the level of RM. We did for a while too. Celtic and Rangers would both cement their places and gradually start to challenge at the too half and beyond given the money and opportunity. I agree. Was pointing out that whitesince63 classes them in the same bracket as Madrid, which I do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Rudy said: Cole Stockton being linked again Got a year left on his contract so if Morecambe want to cash in they need to sell this summer, or possibly Jan but obviously worth more now. I can't see us offering enough of a transfer fee to tempt them to sell, and as good as he is he'd be a squad player not an automatic pick here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 16, 2022 Members Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, Johnnyrotten said: Got a year left on his contract so if Morecambe want to cash in they need to sell this summer, or possibly Jan but obviously worth more now. I can't see us offering enough of a transfer fee to tempt them to sell, and as good as he is he'd be a squad player not an automatic pick here. I know IE is a fan. Not a position I’d was expecting us to strengthen in if I’m honest though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flannel Truscott Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Whitesince63 said: OK, so what do you consider World Class? Having one of the games largest fan bases doesn’t count then? You might not like to accept it but they’re up there with the Real’s, Manures and Liverpools of this world and to me that makes them “world class.” as a club in my opinion. Horseshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Whitesince63 said: I think if you do some homework MK you’ll find that Celtic, not so much Rangers, have one of the Worlds largest followings. These are two massive clubs in anyones language. You'll be classing Sunderland as World Class at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 World class bigots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 16, 2022 Moderators Share Posted May 16, 2022 Rangers and Celtic have lots of fans and big grounds but then so do Everton, Newcastle, Villa etc and they've had plenty struggles/relegations over the years so not sure folk assume Celtic and Rangers would do well they wouldn't even have the lure of a couple of CL qualification games a season to tempt players to join them they could just as easily go down as finish top half anyway, it's a moot point as it will never happen but lots of fans means fuck all and that's the only thing they can prove they've got, everything else is fantasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Exactly what the rest of the league 1 peasants say about us tbf 🤣 15 minutes ago, Zico said: but lots of fans means fuck all and that's the only thing they can prove they've got, everything else is fantasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Zico said: Rangers and Celtic have lots of fans and big grounds but then so do Everton, Newcastle, Villa etc and they've had plenty struggles/relegations over the years so not sure folk assume Celtic and Rangers would do well they wouldn't even have the lure of a couple of CL qualification games a season to tempt players to join them they could just as easily go down as finish top half anyway, it's a moot point as it will never happen but lots of fans means fuck all and that's the only thing they can prove they've got, everything else is fantasy Rangers haven’t done too shabby in Europe with a budget partly built on probably the same tv money as Stockport have had this year for domestic coverage 😬 give them the PL tv money and the sponsorship that comes with it and I think you would be Eating your words. It’s never going to happen and rightly so. But for folk to say they wouldn’t do anything if in PL is nonsense. And let’s not start to compare evertons support to either Celtic or rangers. You’re doing both a massive disservice there. They are both absolutely miles ahead not that support really makes a concrete argument for success. See sunlun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 16, 2022 Moderators Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Rangers haven’t done too shabby in Europe with a budget partly built on probably the same tv money as Stockport have had this year for domestic coverage 😬 give them the PL tv money and the sponsorship that comes with it and I think you would be Eating your words. It’s never going to happen and rightly so. But for folk to say they wouldn’t do anything if in PL is nonsense. what words are these? I said they could do ok just as easily as they could go down they'd get the same tv money etc and crowds as other teams which have struggled and have been relegated as for Europe, aye, they've done well this season though don't forget Malmo knocked them out the CL, but historically, nothing special at all, certainly don't stand out as a big player on that particular scene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Both Rangers and Celtic would have a commercial reach neither Everton nor Aston Villa could match. Particularly Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 16, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2022 51 minutes ago, Zico said: Rangers and Celtic have lots of fans and big grounds but then so do Everton, Newcastle, Villa etc and they've had plenty struggles/relegations over the years so not sure folk assume Celtic and Rangers would do well they wouldn't even have the lure of a couple of CL qualification games a season to tempt players to join them they could just as easily go down as finish top half anyway, it's a moot point as it will never happen but lots of fans means fuck all and that's the only thing they can prove they've got, everything else is fantasy Not a given, but from a monetary aspect they could undeniably compete. Just comes down to management then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) They’d both be competing as also rans. That top 8 would become a top 10. it’s alright having the same level of revenue as arsenal / spurs etc another completely different level up against city united Liverpool and Chelsea taken city what, 15 years to get to the level they’re at with FFP, ‘clever’ accountancy and billions spent. The old firm will never have billions to spend Edited May 16, 2022 by barrycowdrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Whitesince63 said: OK, so what do you consider World Class? Having one of the games largest fan bases doesn’t count then? You might not like to accept it but they’re up there with the Real’s, Manures and Liverpools of this world and to me that makes them “world class.” as a club in my opinion. For Celtic and Rangers see Newcastle, big clubs massive followings but big players don't want to move to the arse end of the UK, world class players make world class teams so I don't see it ever happening. Edited May 16, 2022 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Any transfer news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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