Escobarp Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 5 hours ago, fatolive said: Maybe we could vote out of the un democratic bureaucratic UK and just stay in the democratic EU 😉 Ah but there in lies the fundamental flaw. The decision of the vote is irrelevant and we would Piss about whilst the various politicians posture and argue and then demand another vote. Precedent firmly set in this respect now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted May 22, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: Ah but there in lies the fundamental flaw. The decision of the vote is irrelevant and we would Piss about whilst the various politicians posture and argue and then demand another vote. Precedent firmly set in this respect now Aye the British ones would but the EU ones seem pretty decisive. Wouldn’t budge for May for example, made their decision on the agreement and stuck to it... type of politicians we need really , should fire ours off and just have them , would solve loads ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 22, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2019 Or May went in with a huge compromise to start with. They saw a weakness and capitalised. She's no real interest in pushing them any further either, as a remainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, fatolive said: Aye the British ones would but the EU ones seem pretty decisive. Wouldn’t budge for May for example, made their decision on the agreement and stuck to it... type of politicians we need really , should fire ours off and just have them , would solve loads ... Yep, it’s just what this country needs, more politicians like Barnier, Junker, Verofstad, Seylmar etc top class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 Surprised no one on here has mentioned the daft EU law which is stopping a bailout of British Steel. The Same EU who certain folk think is the dog’s bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, fatolive said: Aye the British ones would but the EU ones seem pretty decisive. Wouldn’t budge for May for example, made their decision on the agreement and stuck to it... type of politicians we need really , should fire ours off and just have them , would solve loads ... Solve loads ? They couldn’t solve a Sunday Sport crossword. They’re all so good they’ve admitted many times their federal project is facing collapse and needs urgent reform. That’s how good they are Olive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Surprised no one on here has mentioned the daft EU law which is stopping a bailout of British Steel. The Same EU who certain folk think is the dog’s bollocks. Folk blaming Brexit, they need to scratch under the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: Folk blaming Brexit, they need to scratch under the surface. Precisely mate, as I said last night. But certain folk don’t see/avoid this sort of news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Surprised no one on here has mentioned the daft EU law which is stopping a bailout of British Steel. The Same EU who certain folk think is the dog’s bollocks. To be fair Miami British steel is absolutely fucked and any bailout is simply a finger in a dam. It simply isn’t viable and cannot compete anything that has prevented it has saved the government money sad but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Escobarp said: To be fair Miami British steel is absolutely fucked and any bailout is simply a finger in a dam. It simply isn’t viable and cannot compete anything that has prevented it has saved the government money sad but true Totally agree mate and I posted such last night, but like I said, some folk on here were so quick to blame Brexit. Neither us or the EU can cope with the tidal wave of Chinese steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Surprised no one on here has mentioned the daft EU law which is stopping a bailout of British Steel. The Same EU who certain folk think is the dog’s bollocks. I'm glad we're not allowed to bail them out, it just doesn't work, if we'd bailed them out this week, they'd be back asking for more in a few weeks /months. As I said earlier, it's been sick for decades, time to just let it die. this is nothing to do with Brexit Edited May 22, 2019 by Sweep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Totally agree mate and I posted such last night, but like I said, some folk on here were so quick to blame Brexit. Neither us or the EU can cope with the tidal wave of Chinese steel. Agreed. And it isn’t just steel either it’s been manufacturing for a long time that’s in general terminal decline. We do make somethings that are world leading and those will never die fortunately. But as you and sweep correctly point out this is nothing to do with brexit and it’s a shambolic excuse and a poor attempt at pulling on the heart strings by the board which has failed. Very very sad for the thousands who have lost jobs but it’s just that and nothing to do with politics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 50 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Precisely mate, as I said last night. But certain folk don’t see/avoid this sort of news. Greybull seem to come out with a shitty statement blaming brexit then wanting a bailout Maybe ken missed a trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 22, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2019 58 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Totally agree mate and I posted such last night, but like I said, some folk on here were so quick to blame Brexit. Neither us or the EU can cope with the tidal wave of Chinese steel. You mean the tidal wave that the EU tried to stop in 2016, but the UK used its veto to block the proposals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 On 21/05/2019 at 09:42, Salford Trotter said: Ssshhhhhhh..... You can't say that... Please be quiet and get back in your box After seeing the numerous posts above Pete, and how the British Steel industry has been in a serious slump for many years, are you going to retract your statement ? My neighbour’s dog just shit on the other neighbour’s drive, I suppose we’d better blame Brexit for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 22, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2019 I know a bit about steel purchasing. british steel has been dead in the water for 15 years and propped up by one loan after another. In a global economy, it simply cannot compete and that has fuck all to do with Brexit, the EU, or Theresa May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: After seeing the numerous posts above Pete, and how the British Steel industry has been in a serious slump for many years, are you going to retract your statement ? My neighbour’s dog just shit on the other neighbour’s drive, I suppose we’d better blame Brexit for that. It appears the industry as a whole is struggling but like most things we read you have to take it at face value or you wouldn't believe anything from anybody including family, friends and colleagues Edited May 22, 2019 by Salford Trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: It appears the industry as a whole is struggling but like most things we read you have to take it at face value or you would believe anything from anybody including family, friends and colleagues The Chinese steel industry isn’t struggling so how can the industry be struggling as a whole ? Proven facts and figures on this. Shall I drop a spade off to help you dig yourself out of this hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 22, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, Cheese said: You mean the tidal wave that the EU tried to stop in 2016, but the UK used its veto to block the proposals? Just had a read about this. Sajid Javid explained it was to prevent those manufacturers that used imported steel from being hit with price rises. Without being deep within the industry, it would be difficult to ascertain what the best course of action was. Whatever the reality of that, it's still going to be difficult for any European manufacturer to compete on that scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: The Chinese steel industry isn’t struggling so how can the industry be struggling as a whole ? Proven facts and figures on this. Shall I drop a spade off to help you dig yourself out of this hole I was referring to the UK steel industry😋 no need for the spade, you'll need that when the UK economy goes tits up after a No Deal Brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: I was referring to the UK steel industry😋 no need for the spade, you'll need that when the UK economy goes tits up after a No Deal Brexit Pete, you said the industry as a whole.......did you not ? Now then...in other matters, you said a certain Yaxley Lennon wasn’t welcome in Salford didn’t you ? Could I please ask you why, as in the last hour in Salford, did the left wing rent a mob get kicked up and down a local estate by locals who welcomed him and not the Antifa mob I’ll drop a couple of spades mate, you’ll need them with the hole you’re digging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: Pete, you said the industry as a whole.......did you not ? Now then...in other matters, you said a certain Yaxley Lennon wasn’t welcome in Salford didn’t you ? Could I please ask you why, as in the last hour in Salford, did the left wing rent a mob get kicked up and down a local estate by locals who welcomed him and not the Antifa mob I’ll drop a couple of spades mate, you’ll need them with the hole you’re digging i was referring to the UK steel Industry and as for Tommy, there are always idiots in every City/town that might welcome him but I can assure you everyone that I know would give him short shrift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 22, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2019 The biggest steel producer in the UK are Finnish. The truth is that it’s a product that is cheaper to make overseas and import. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: i was referring to the UK steel Industry and as for Tommy, there are always idiots in every City/town that might welcome him but I can assure you everyone that I know would give him short shrift Pete....you said the industry as a whole, not the UK industry, simple as that. Enjoy your wine and noise of the sirens in your area as the left thugs get their karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Pete....you said the industry as a whole, not the UK industry, simple as that. Enjoy your wine and noise of the sirens in your area as the left thugs get their karma. Interpret what you want mate, i know what i meant. I wonder why he targets the poorest communities to visit and cause trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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