Politics

[royal white]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

Royal answer a direct question? We'll be here another 20 years

If he can’t work that out then I really can’t be arsed explaining. He was struggling with his numbers last week so I’ll leave it for someone else to explain. 

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

I was going of the graph that he placed here , I just wanted to know if the French had taken in as we as we had, per his graph.

 

Thats the issue with graph that have no context, he was excepting for everyone to look at the gray bit and compare that with the UK, I looked at the purple bit and compared that to the UK, which seems to show that we and the French and taken ion the same amount

I think the comparison and point was on rejections. The Gary Lineker debate was all about the lack of compassion shown to asylum seekers. 
It’s true this government are struggling to handle it. They get criticised for both.

[tyldesley_white]

5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I think the comparison and point was on rejections. The Gary Lineker debate was all about the lack of compassion shown to asylum seekers. 
It’s true this government are struggling to handle it. They get criticised for both.

That because thats what he wants to see, you need to look at the full picture and stop looking through the letter box

Edited March 14, 2023 by tyldesley_white

[Cheese]

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

Yes and the ones doing the processing, fucktards. Obviously you with your pro immigration stance will think they’re doing a good job. 

Deary me.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Deary me.

It’s ok you can praise them if you think they’re doing a good job like I criticise them for doing a bad one.

[tyldesley_white]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

It’s ok you can praise them if you think they’re doing a good job like I criticise them for doing a bad one.

I think he did criticize them. Hench the term fucktards

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

That because thats what he wants to see, you need to look at the full picture and stop looking through the letter box

Ok here’s another theory. They get rejected by Germany so they travel to France, they get rejected by France and then end up on boat risking their lives to get to the U.K. Reasonable theory?

 

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

It’s ok you can praise them if you think they’re doing a good job like I criticise them for doing a bad one.

They're doing the job they're employed to do. Fuck me. 13 years, and it's still everyone elses fault. This time it's lowly pen-pushers filling in forms and secretly rebelling against Government guidelines so we let as many Albanians into the country as possible, for some unknown reason. 😁 You're a few short steps away from becoming an Anti-Vaxxer.

Edited March 14, 2023 by Cheese

[royal white]

22 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

I was going of the graph that he placed here , I just wanted to know if the French had taken in as we as we had, per his graph.

 

Thats the issue with graph that have no context, he was excepting for everyone to look at the gray bit and compare that with the UK, I looked at the purple bit and compared that to the UK, which seems to show that we and the French and taken ion the same amount

The graph has plenty of context if you relate it to my initial question. For some reason you’re struggling.

[Spider]

8 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Ok here’s another theory. They get rejected by Germany so they travel to France, they get rejected by France and then end up on boat risking their lives to get to the U.K. Reasonable theory?

 

Yep.

we should make Germany and France do more

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Numbers accepted by other nations are irrelevant. 

There are many reasons for this, it is however also the casethat we accept a greater proportion of applications than other major European nations.

As we all know, we don't have the infrastructure to cope, so numbers have to be managed.

[royal white]

7 minutes ago, Cheese said:

They're doing the job they're employed to do. Fuck me. 13 years, and it's still everyone elses fault. This time it's lowly pen-pushers filling in forms and secretly rebelling against Government guidelines so we let as many Albanians into the country as possible, for some unknown reason. 😁 You're a few short steps away from becoming an Anti-Vaxxer.

Praise them as in the tory party. Seriously it’s ok you can do it. Go on Praise them I dare you. I will criticise them as I’m doing here. 

[BobyBrno]

Just now, Spider said:

Yep.

we should make Germany and France do more

You know that’s not possible, with Germany. The new agreement with France may help but we’ll be paying for it. 

[royal white]

12 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

I think he did criticize them. Hench the term fucktards

You’re really not following this are you. 😂

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Ok here’s another theory. They get rejected by Germany so they travel to France, they get rejected by France and then end up on boat risking their lives to get to the U.K. Reasonable theory?

 

Quite possible. Additionally the "hub" for trafficking has been reported as being in Germany, with routes through to French ports.

The French themselves have asked us to toughen up and we have started to.

If the processing facility does go ahead in France, then it's a plus for all concerned.

[tyldesley_white]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

You’re really not following this are you. 😂

Did he criticize the home office yes or no

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

Praise them as in the tory party. Seriously it’s ok you can do it. Go on Praise them I dare you. I will criticise them as I’m doing here. 

Praise them for being inept? 🤨 Or are you under the impression I want our borders to be a completely open free-for-all?

[Not in Crawley]

23 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Deary me.

😄 he thinks its like local council parking applications.

[Spider]

8 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

You know that’s not possible, with Germany. The new agreement with France may help but we’ll be paying for it. 

Shame we can’t make an agreement with Germany as well as France.

Make a sort of eu wide agreement.

Mental idea I know.

[royal white]

9 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Praise them for being inept? 🤨 Or are you under the impression I want our borders to be a completely open free-for-all?

Surely you should be happy at the rate we are taking in (Albanians in this instance) compared to other European countries? I’m not I think the government are fucking up. So are you happy or not? 

Edited March 14, 2023 by royal white

[BobyBrno]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Shame we can’t make an agreement with Germany as well as France.

Make a sort of eu wide agreement.

Mental idea I know.

Yep. If only you’d have thought about it before. It was predicted. 

[Spider]

Does anyone think the Tories have done well over the last 12 years? Really?

Hand on heart “yep, tough times but they’ve done a grand job”?

 

[Spider]

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

Yep. If only you’d have thought about it before. It was predicted. 

So I’m right to feel a bit let down by the people who convinced us the borders would be all right and brilliantly controlled post-Brexit?

Its ok for me to be a little aggrieved?

And does that mean Brexit voters who STILL think it’s going well are a bit addled or simply too stubborn to admit it’s been rather shit?

[BobyBrno]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

So I’m right to feel a bit let down by the people who convinced us the borders would be all right and brilliantly controlled post-Brexit?

You should have listened to the right people.

Its ok for me to be a little aggrieved?

Yes.

And does that mean Brexit voters who STILL think it’s going well are a bit addled or simply too stubborn to admit it’s been rather shit?

Addled is a bit strong but they had there reasons. It’s not all shit.

 

[royal white]

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

Does anyone think the Tories have done well over the last 12 years? Really?

Hand on heart “yep, tough times but they’ve done a grand job”?

 

Just to confirm you didn’t vote for them in the last 12 years? It’s  Just I remember you saying you’re usually a Tory but wouldn’t vote Boris (which is a bit weird as he was the main men behind Brexit but that’s another story)