Politics

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

You can’t live in a system that allows you to earn great money and own loads of houses, then be all upset when that same system expects you to give something back.

Unless you’re happy with blatant exploitation.

Thats balance, you dozy fuckers.

 

3 kids in a 3 bed house. Some folk have multiple kids spread over town. Dozy fuckers 

[Spider]

Just now, royal white said:

3 kids in a 3 bed house. Some folk have multiple kids spread over town. Dozy fuckers 

And “the system” gives them a shitty, basic existence.

I imagine you have some decent family holidays and don’t worry about cranking the heating up in winter?

It’s all about levels. You’ve done well because you’ve worked hard. You won’t find anyone on here begrudging you a comfy life as a result.

Scum who simply have no interest in working or contributing will generally get what they deserve.

But that’s the system. Capitalism. The first world. Deal with it, change it or opt out of it.

if you keep a dog in a cage it will occasionally try and bite you. Acting surprised and upset is a bit snowflakey 😁

 

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

And “the system” gives them a shitty, basic existence.

I imagine you have some decent family holidays and don’t worry about cranking the heating up in winter?

It’s all about levels. You’ve done well because you’ve worked hard. You won’t find anyone on here begrudging you a comfy life as a result.

Scum who simply have no interest in working or contributing will generally get what they deserve.

But that’s the system. Capitalism. The first world. Deal with it, change it or opt out of it.

if you keep a dog in a cage it will occasionally try and bite you. Acting surprised and upset is a bit snowflakey 😁

 

I really don’t have a clue what you’re on about. My original post, which i questioned if the numbers were correct (take note @London Wanderer) is highlighting the growth in population, now with the lack of houses, lack of schools, increase in old people getting older, strain on the health system…amongst other things, anyone with half a brain cell can see theres going to be a problem, regardless of which party you support. So far we’ve had it’s those with more than 2 kids and we have 600k empty houses bla bla bla. Are some people really this simple? 

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

I really don’t have a clue what you’re on about. My original post, which i questioned if the numbers were correct (take note @London Wanderer) is highlighting the growth in population, now with the lack of houses, lack of schools, increase in old people getting older, strain on the health system…amongst other things, anyone with half a brain cell can see theres going to be a problem, regardless of which party you support. So far we’ve had it’s those with more than 2 kids and we have 600k empty houses bla bla bla. Are some people really this simple? 

You were whining about people with more than 2 kids.

weren’t you?

Ill be honest, I’m scanning posts because it’s really tedious.

 

[royal white]

Just now, Spider said:

You were whining about people with more than 2 kids.

weren’t you?

Ill be honest, I’m scanning posts because it’s really tedious.

 

I have more than 2 kids why the fuck would I be whining? See @Cheese he’s the one with whining, and he even posted a link for you. 
 

if it’s This tedious you don’t have to post, seriously it’s not an obligation 

[Spider]

Just now, royal white said:

I have more than 2 kids why the fuck would I be whining? See @Cheese he’s the one with whining, and he even posted a link for you. 
 

if it’s This tedious you don’t have to post, seriously it’s not an obligation 

Multiple kids spread all over town, you said.

I assumed it wasnt a positive thing

must be wrong. Like Bolty when he voted Tory.

[Cheese]

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

I have more than 2 kids why the fuck would I be whining? See @Cheese he’s the one with whining, and he even posted a link for you. 
 

if it’s This tedious you don’t have to post, seriously it’s not an obligation 

Not in the slightest. I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy of people who claim to be "concerned" about a rising population, but are happy to add to it - because what they really mean is "those 'other' people who procreate are the problem, but I'm not because I'm better than them". I don't give a fuck how many kids anyone has.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Go back to my comment when I posted. Surely a teacher is able to understand basic England? …….then again 

Here we go again 😆 must be the fourth time you've brought my job into it.... did you not think I heard you the first time babes? 

You've been expressing a lot of worries about immigration in your posts lately (nothing wrong with that). Your twitter feed appears to be filled with Britain First posts and Migration Watch. You post it all on here then ask us why we think you're blaming immigrants ?🤣

Not sure why exactly you moved onto separated families with kids and housing. Probably a sign that the discussion has gone a bit downhill now, we've proven the estimates were shite so lets move on and call it a day yeah? 

Edited July 2, 2023 by London Wanderer

[royal white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Here we go again 😆 must be the fourth time you've brought my job into it.... did you not think I heard you the first time babes? 

You've been expressing a lot of worries about immigration in your posts lately. You're twitter feed is filled with Britain First posts and Migration Watch. You post it all on here then ask us why we think you're blaming immigrants ?🤣

Not sure why exactly you moved onto separated families with kids and housing. Probably a sign that the discussion has gone a bit downhill now, we've proven the estimates were shite so let’s move on and call it a day yeah? 

4th? I’d say 2, maybe 3 max. 
 

My Twitter feed? Are you sure? Feel free to post a link to my twitter feed to prove your point. (You’re lying again)

I’m sure if you scroll back through the posts you will be able to put 2 and 2 together…..then again. 

[London Wanderer]

25 minutes ago, royal white said:

4th? I’d say 2, maybe 3 max. 
 

My Twitter feed? Are you sure? Feel free to post a link to my twitter feed to prove your point. (You’re lying again)

I’m sure if you scroll back through the posts you will be able to put 2 and 2 together…..then again. 

 I’ll take that as a yes 👍

[Ani]

3 hours ago, royal white said:

Yes because processing them faster will magically makes 1000s of houses appear 

You said there is a problem now . I agreed. The problem now is thousands of people sat waiting for a decision, costing us money, unable to work and contribute.

If we started to fix that problem it would free up millions to spend on the longer term problem. In the short term start CPOs on uninhabited properties and fix them up. In the coming years as more and more people wfh loads of city centre offices will start to be empty and set about a programme of converting those into liveable properties. 
 

Investing into the country's infrastructure  in the areas we need like housing rather than a vanity train project which gets to London 15 minutes quicker than current train from Leeds. 
 

I do not agree with the numbers you posted but providing decent affordable housing for people seems an obvious need https://www.leedsbuildingsociety.co.uk/_resources/pdfs/press-pdfs/press-releases/empty-homes-week.pdf

Over 670k empty properties in just the UK, some maybe for a reason but 000s that are just dormant. Think of the industry you could develop and train people in if as a country we tackled the problem. 
 

Not a party political point just common sense. (The backlog is party political because the backlog has grown under the Tories and they are not doing enough about it) 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

 I’ll take that as a yes 👍

What as a yes? You make no sense. Can you see my concern now? 20 past ten On a  school night and you’re lying on a football forum. 
 

Kids are easily fooled. 

[Spider]

Is there a reason we can’t set up processing centres near the coast where they all tend to land?

[royal white]

12 minutes ago, Ani said:

You said there is a problem now . I agreed. The problem now is thousands of people sat waiting for a decision, costing us money, unable to work and contribute.

If we started to fix that problem it would free up millions to spend on the longer term problem. In the short term start CPOs on uninhabited properties and fix them up. In the coming years as more and more people wfh loads of city centre offices will start to be empty and set about a programme of converting those into liveable properties. 
 

Investing into the country's infrastructure  in the areas we need like housing rather than a vanity train project which gets to London 15 minutes quicker than current train from Leeds. 
 

I do not agree with the numbers you posted but providing decent affordable housing for people seems an obvious need https://www.leedsbuildingsociety.co.uk/_resources/pdfs/press-pdfs/press-releases/empty-homes-week.pdf

Over 670k empty properties in just the UK, some maybe for a reason but 000s that are just dormant. Think of the industry you could develop and train people in if as a country we tackled the problem. 
 

Not a party political point just common sense. (The backlog is party political because the backlog has grown under the Tories and they are not doing enough about it) 

💯 we need to get as many working as soon as possible. That’s obviously a priority. 
 

I also agree with the affordable housing, yet as per my original post, many of those arguing for new houses are the same people arguing about house being built (hypocrisy at its highest), it’s a no win in many cases. 
 

With regards to the 600k empty houses that’s not quite as is seems. Only approx a third are empty for more than 6 months.

Edited July 2, 2023 by royal white

[Ani]

9 minutes ago, royal white said:

💯 we need to get as many working as soon as possible. That’s obviously a priority. 
 

I also agree with the affordable housing, yet as per my original post, many of those arguing for new houses are the same people arguing about house being built (hypocrisy at its highest), it’s a no win in many cases. 
 

With regards to the 600k empty houses that’s not quite as is seems. Only approx a third are empty for more than 6 months.

Damn , I did see the long term empty figure and meant to say that, but even the 265k that are long term would provide a massive and relatively quick step towards our needs.

NIMBYs are a pain, everyone knows there is an issue and is desperate for a solution to be delivered......somewhere else ! 
 

Converting offices needs to be explored too. 

[Traf]

2 hours ago, Ani said:

Converting offices needs to be explored too. 

Definitely. As more people WFH or hybrid, there’s going to be an increasing amount of unused space in town centres 

[bolty58]

14 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

18 more Birminghams in 20 years time. Some cracking sums there from the mathematical whizz kids over at Migration Watch. Nearly as good as their EU predictions. 

Best get voting for Farage and his Reform Party. “Make Britain Great 🇬🇧” & reform the “the unaccountable civil service and the bloated BBC”. Bolty must be wetting himself with excitement reading that manifesto. 

 

Oh aye, positively sopping  When the UK finally goes down the proportional representation route, the needle might even get to 1 on my excitement-o-meter.

The Remain movements predictions were so much more accurate eh? I believe the sun hasn't risen over there ever since?

Too busy ploughing my own furrow to worry about such trifles. You have a socialist government to look forward to next year and everything will be just to your satisfaction. Sadly, only for the honeymoon period.

[bolty58]

14 hours ago, Casino said:

Yeah, but when a brown skin kills some innocents (are we talking Kriss Donald, the recent Nottingham victims, Lee Rigby or some other? Only seeking clarity. I keep hearing recycling of the Stephen Lawrence atrocity but never hear about Kriss Donald? I wonder why that is?), the whole policy gets trashed by the usuals

It is an absolute shitstorm down the tracks, this pension/care crisis I did mention the land of 30,000 chances. You champion immigrants so become one?

 

 

[mickbrown]

11 hours ago, royal white said:

💯 we need to get as many working as soon as possible. That’s obviously a priority. 
 

I also agree with the affordable housing, yet as per my original post, many of those arguing for new houses are the same people arguing about house being built (hypocrisy at its highest), it’s a no win in many cases. 
 

With regards to the 600k empty houses that’s not quite as is seems. Only approx a third are empty for more than 6 months.

Fair enough.

Was a quick 2 minute Google I didn't look at the details. Ta for clearing that up.

[Ani]

20 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Fair enough.

Was a quick 2 minute Google I didn't look at the details. Ta for clearing that up.

Tbf the number are I assume from the Leeds BS which is what comes up with a quick google. There are England only so about 250k in England , not sure for rest of the UK. 

I know life is not that simple but any property developer says buy 'the worst house on the best street' , whilst I know these won't all be in great areas buying a property and then developing it is massively cheaper usually than building from scratch when you need all the utilities sorting. Lots of Housing Associations have their own development arm , so ask them to do the work and as part of the deal train youngsters from the area in the skills needed on site. 
 

You could ask private companies, would Smiffs company get involved in something like this or have centralised national board delivering. This could start tomorrow. Along with a sensible debate about converted unused office space into something to help solve the challenge. This shit is what annoys me most about the current Tories, with an 80 seat majority they could have started all this, creating jobs and income instead they have disappeared up their own arseholes and delivered more three word slogans than they have actual policies. 
Boris even went to 4 words 'high wage high skills' but no training plan no delivery plan the useless Bumblecunt shyster.

[Spider]

Quick reminder that a High Skill High Wage economy will depend more than any other on low paid, unskilled people willing to make the butties and fill the shelves.

Since most British natives now seem to consider this work beneath them, step forward the migrants who are simply happy to be here at all.

Between the skilled and the migrants, we'll cough up enough tax to keep Gaz and Destiny from the estate in just enough handouts to cover 3 bags and some cider at the weekend.

The sooner we all admit our society needs the "lesser" skilled folk to do the shit, and stops assuming they're all rapists, the better.

[gonzo]

[Casino]

The New Conservatives

Another mob doing their best to finish the Tories off

Anderson, Gullis and that fucking non entity, Chris Green, amongst others

[Cheese]

Just now, Casino said:

The New Conservatives

Another mob doing their best to finish the Tories off

Anderson, Gullis and that fucking non entity, Chris Green, amongst others

Proper racist nutjobs. Want to block overseas workers from becoming carers in the UK - an industry that is massively struggling with a shortage of staff. And one of them is the Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party.

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

The New Conservatives

Another mob doing their best to finish the Tories off

Anderson, Gullis and that fucking non entity, Chris Green, amongst others

He's not a non-entity. He does at least 1 video a month of himself stood somewhere in Westhoughton toeing the party line.

Sometimes, he goes on Facebook to moan about Bolton Labour paying themselves too much money. ALways worth a giggle, that.

He voted to allow more sewage to be dumped into British waters though. So at least he shows up for work.