Politics

[Duck Egg]

55 minutes ago, Spider said:

 

Someone alleged on Twitter that he wore his medals all the time so she couldn't sell em. 

[royal white]

2 hours ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

Well other than during that period access to significant funding wasn't available, some of our researchers will have been excluded from beneficial partnerships/collaborations or have left to maintain access and industry investment has been made in countries other tan the UK to maintain their access. 

It has been more than a headache and weakened us significantly in attracting and retaining scientific talent and investment.  Something which we are genuinely good at.

Whoops…..wrong comment. 

Edited July 6, 2023 by royal white

[royal white]

2 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

Someone alleged on Twitter that he wore his medals all the time so she couldn't sell em. 

She wouldn’t have got much for them, they’re not worth that much….apart from his last one I guess 

[Not in Crawley]

My Grandpa gave me his medals when I scuffed me knee.

He always said, no one should get a medal for going to war.

Youngest Sgt in the far East army.

Farnworth boy - but when I was a kid always told me to get out of Bolton, because there was an amazing world out there beyond Farnworth.

[bolty58]

12 hours ago, Sweep said:

Sickening

It is. A sickening as Biden's support for her (an unelected bureaucratic gravy trainer) to head up NATO instead of military man Ben Wallace. Joke or Biden's inherent Irish anti British sentiments?.

Winky is actually helping here. He is highlighting the creeping moves to overturn a democratic vote. It became obvious when they reneged on consigning thousands of EU laws to the dustbin and only proceeded with a few hundred relatively neutral ones. I wonder what might happen if they got away with taking the UK back in through stealth?

[bolty58]

11 hours ago, Winchester White said:

An Iain Duncan Smith opinion is like Ann Widdecombe opinion, 90% of the time if you take the opposite view you will be correct.

You have your 10 and 90 the wrong way round.

[Sweep]

10 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Good news, so we don’t have to be a member of the EU to be part of horizon… that’s another remainer moan chalked off. 

Just a couple of things that spring to mind.....this seams like it might go through, which is good news, but with no discussion in Parliament, surely that's not right is it?

Also, as it's mainly an EU initiative, as they said on the radio this morning, the ECJ will have final/overriding say on any issues, we can't avoid that, and we're apparently happy to accept that - I thought we didn't want that?!?

Also, again it's hearsay, but we'll be paying into the fund, but the EU will decide where it's allocated. I think we'll benefit from it, but it's not a guarantee.

On the face of it, I think it's a good thing, but already there are grumblings from some of the leave camp that this is part of a slow creep back to the EU.

 

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The programme facilitates collaboration and strengthens the impact of research and innovation in developing, supporting and implementing EU policies

 

[Sweep]

[Farrelli]

10 hours ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

We used to get more out than we put in, but Horizon Europe isn't necessarily about that. It is about building strong consortia between academia and industry across Europe for the benefit of scientific research. Not having access to it has been damaging to science in this country, as our academic institutions have been excluded from highly attractive and beneficial partnerships. We can't go it alone on something like this as the attraction lies in the Europe wide network of scientific talent. Also joining this really shouldn't really stop us from partnering with other countries on science investment,  just not many others do schemes like this.

Exactly. It is about partnerships, working together and common goals. The covid vaccine was a great example. The idea that going alone is better is absolute nonsense. 

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

Fuck me, you are older than I imagined but I guessed your dress sense perfectly.

[CambridgeBWFC]

58 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Exactly. It is about partnerships, working together and common goals. The covid vaccine was a great example. The idea that going alone is better is absolute nonsense. 

It is ~100 billion of funding, the largest such fund in the world and encourages collaboration and knowledge sharing across Europe and now a number of other partner countries outside the EU.

We can't come close to that if we tried and that is ignoring the fact our government have cut or removed funding from other similar, if not smaller funds. 

R&D and innovation are something this country has a long history in and we continue to be very strong in, but isolation in this space is nonsense and will only damage (further) investment and growth in this vital area for the UK 

 

[bolty58]

1 minute ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

It is ~100 billion of funding, the largest such fund in the world and encourages collaboration and knowledge sharing across Europe and now a number of other partner countries outside the EU.

We can't come close to that if we tried and that is ignoring the fact our government have cut or removed funding from other similar, if not smaller funds. 

R&D and innovation are something this country has a long history in and we continue to be very strong in, but isolation in this space is nonsense and will only damage (further) investment and growth in this vital area for the UK 

 

There'll be some spectacular Chateau Laffitte Carcasette fuelled lunches and dinners to gorge on with 100B in the kitty.

Who would elect them? Oh, hang on a minute.....................................

 

[CambridgeBWFC]

6 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

There'll be some spectacular Chateau Laffitte Carcasette fuelled lunches and dinners to gorge on with 100B in the kitty.

Who would elect them? Oh, hang on a minute.....................................

 

Yes, you are correct, we shouldn't be a part of this absolutely massive fund to support scientific and technological R&D which we did significantly benefit from, and hopefully will continue to do so if we rejoin,  strengthening industry and academia in the UK. We can just go it alone with our tiny investment pot, fuck collaboration off and trust our government to only buy blue nun for their lunches. 

I am not commenting on rejoining the EU, this is specifically about the Horizon Europe funding. Not having access has caused damage to this country and will continue to do so.

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

Yes, you are correct, we shouldn't be a part of this absolutely massive fund to support scientific and technological R&D which we did significantly benefit from, and hopefully will continue to do so if we rejoin,  strengthening industry and academia in the UK. We can just go it alone with our tiny investment pot, fuck collaboration off and trust our government to only buy blue nun for their lunches. 

I am not commenting on rejoining the EU, this is specifically about the Horizon Europe funding. Not having access has caused damage to this country and will continue to do so.

Stop embarrassing him

[mickbrown]

15 minutes ago, Spider said:

Stop embarrassing him

To be fair, he generally manages that on his own

[Sweep]

52 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Fuck me, you are older than I imagined but I guessed your dress sense perfectly.

You'd be pleased with me today, I'm wearing a rather fetching Fred Perry polo shirt, some Levis and a pair of Gazelles 🙂

[Farrelli]

35 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

Yes, you are correct, we shouldn't be a part of this absolutely massive fund to support scientific and technological R&D which we did significantly benefit from, and hopefully will continue to do so if we rejoin,  strengthening industry and academia in the UK. We can just go it alone with our tiny investment pot, fuck collaboration off and trust our government to only buy blue nun for their lunches. 

I am not commenting on rejoining the EU, this is specifically about the Horizon Europe funding. Not having access has caused damage to this country and will continue to do so.

Well said👍You are going on the list sonny!

[Sweep]

48 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

There'll be some spectacular Chateau Laffitte Carcasette fuelled lunches and dinners to gorge on with 100B in the kitty.

Who would elect them? Oh, hang on a minute.....................................

 

So, do you think we shouldn't be going back into it then? - Even you must see this is something we need to be part of

[Nowack]

3 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Well said👍You are going on the list sonny!

[Sweep]

37 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

I am not commenting on rejoining the EU, this is specifically about the Horizon Europe funding. Not having access has caused damage to this country and will continue to do so.

I've mentioned it before, as I know you have. The last few years have seen a massive "brain drain" from in/around the Cambridge area already, as the Government have happily sat back and not let it be known if they'll replace the previous European funding. Hopefully, if we do sign back into it, the damage can be repaired, as we really have damaged this sector of the UK in the last few years. 

 

[Ani]

58 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I've mentioned it before, as I know you have. The last few years have seen a massive "brain drain" from in/around the Cambridge area already, as the Government have happily sat back and not let it be known if they'll replace the previous European funding. Hopefully, if we do sign back into it, the damage can be repaired, as we really have damaged this sector of the UK in the last few years. 

 

Can they not retrain ? 

[Spider]

22 minutes ago, Ani said:

Can they not retrain ? 

If they’re that clever, they could come up with ways to pick fruit faster and more economically?

[Traf]

33 minutes ago, Spider said:

If they’re that clever, they could come up with ways to pick fruit faster and more economically?

They have.

The answer, apparently, is to get immigrants in to do it.

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, Traf said:

They have.

The answer, apparently, is to get immigrants in to do it.

But immigration is the root of all our ills,

you must be wrong

[Cheese]

11 minutes ago, Traf said:

They have.

The answer, apparently, is to get immigrants in to do it.