Sweep Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ani said: Has it now been agreed that Immigration was a factor in Brexit ? I know a few people insisted it was nt . Anybody who says it isn't, are away with the fairies, of course it was a major factor - maybe not for every single person of course, but it was without doubt the largest single factor, across those that voted "leave" Quote
globaldiver Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/05/brexit-disaster-rejoining-channel-europe-economy Quote
Ani Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 22 Tories including ministers rightly voted against Govt on infected blood last night, let's see if Rishi does anything about it. Quote
Members bolty58 Posted December 5, 2023 Members Posted December 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, globaldiver said: https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/05/brexit-disaster-rejoining-channel-europe-economy Yes but Spider, Gonzo, Casino, the Chorley Cheesemongrel and quite a few others on here have told me that Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster. Quote
globaldiver Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, bolty58 said: Yes but Spider, Gonzo, Casino, the Chorley Cheesemongrel and quite a few others on here have told me that Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster. Facts matter. Quote
royal white Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Cheese said: How’d on a min, the graph you posted doesn’t reflect this. Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 5, 2023 Site Supporter Posted December 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, royal white said: How’d on a min, the graph you posted doesn’t reflect this. Are you still under the impression that was intended to be a genuine graph representing actual data? Jesus wept. Quote
royal white Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, Cheese said: Are you still under the impression that was intended to be a genuine graph representing actual data? Jesus wept. Most knew and realised it was a shit graph made up by some desperate gawp. It was you who said it’s “pretty much true” Quote
Sweep Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 3 hours ago, bolty58 said: Yes but Spider, Gonzo, Casino, the Chorley Cheesemongrel and quite a few others on here have told me that Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster. This made me laugh more than it should have done As with all things, Brexit has been a disaster for some and not others - winners and losers. Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 5, 2023 Site Supporter Posted December 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sweep said: This made me laugh more than it should have done As with all things, Brexit has been a disaster for some and not others - winners and losers. It would be even funnier if I was from Chorley. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 3 hours ago, globaldiver said: Facts matter. Yeah, they really do. Shame it didn't when it came to Brexit for many. Quote
Members DirtySanchez Posted December 5, 2023 Members Posted December 5, 2023 43 minutes ago, Cheese said: It would be even funnier if I was from Chorley. It wouldn't The Bolty way Try and make an 'amusing' version of a username That only he finds funny and thinks he has caught you out Quote
globaldiver Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 53 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Yeah, they really do. Shame it didn't when it came to Brexit for many. Facts about the future? They are called “predictions “ Quote
Not in Crawley Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Facts about the future? They are called “predictions “ Erm, if you only dealt with the past and present what the hell would anyone vote on? That's one of the oddest posts I've seen. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Facts about the future? They are called “predictions “ And most of the project fear predictions were completely wrong. As predicted. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted December 5, 2023 Moderators Posted December 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: And most of the project fear predictions were completely wrong. As predicted. you fucking loon ive got to admire your refusal to face reality, mind crackers Quote
Not in Crawley Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Casino said: you fucking loon ive got to admire your refusal to face reality, mind crackers It's a faith, nothing less. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted December 5, 2023 Moderators Posted December 5, 2023 he had me taken in for ages seen through it now hes just taking the piss for a laugh Quote
globaldiver Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: Erm, if you only dealt with the past and present what the hell would anyone vote on? That's one of the oddest posts I've seen. Give over Quote
Not in Crawley Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 29 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Give over Not really. Look at it this way - Farage, Gove, Johnson etc al said Brexit would be fine, and then we had hundreds of economists and academics saying we'd be going through the turbulence we have and will still continue to go through. They were dismissed as fear mongers, rather than people who had real expertise in this area. You make it sound as if it was all a case of crystal balls and guesswork - and no one had a real insight into what would happen. Which they did. We now know who has been proven right, as was said at the time. Yet people still try and retrospectivley post-rationalise a completely irrational (in terms of pure benefits to the UK) decision making out it was a choice based on economic facts (understood by very few) when clearly it was driven by something far more feeling led, which was played on by certain groups. From the divisive poster Farage stood in front of, to the notorious NHS bus messaging Personally I choose to believe those who had far more understanding of the issues, than those who were looking to make political capital from this vote, which again, was pretty clear at the time. Quote
Sweep Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 42 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Not really. Look at it this way - Farage, Gove, Johnson etc al said Brexit would be fine, and then we had hundreds of economists and academics saying we'd be going through the turbulence we have and will still continue to go through. They were dismissed as fear mongers, rather than people who had real expertise in this area. Y That massive cunt, David Davis was the worst of the lot. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted December 5, 2023 Moderators Posted December 5, 2023 Fox was another, wasnt he? In fact, loads with no other chance of ever being relevant jumped on the boat Cunts Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 5, 2023 Site Supporter Posted December 5, 2023 9 hours ago, globaldiver said: Facts matter. Indeed they do And I can show you, for a fact-a-doodle-fucking-do, that Irish (former) customers can still buy goods cheaper from Holland than from the UK. That wasn’t the case in 2015. But if you know a way to change that, me and 100’s of others are all ears 👂 👂👂👂👂👂👂👂👂👂👂👂🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 Quote
RoadRunnerFan Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Facts don't matter, feelings are where its at. That and the socials. And by the way, we've had enough of experts in this country. Quote
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