Politics

[wanderer1984]

17 minutes ago, Ani said:

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8585/#:~:text=This continues a general trend,the cost of living crisis.

Interesting read. Noticed that 89% of those that use the food banks are in receipt of some sort of benefits. Also, working aged people are over represented.

I know I'm lucky but I also work hard. I'm not saying everything is OK for everyone.

I was asking if anyone on here or knows of anyone directly that is struggling due to Brexit. So far the answer is no.

[Spider]

10 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

Is everyone on here struggling or finding things a little harder after Brexit?

Genuine question.

Or know others that are?

I'm buying the same food from shops. Still have a butchers order delivered every two weeks and a veg order once a week when in season.

Fule costs have risen but I'm still able make the same journeys before. 

I go Don't go to the pub as much due to I hate paying £5 + for a pint.

I don't often eat out or get takeaways. Takeaways maybe one a month and eating out maybe twice a year. Same as before brexit really.

I'm going on more trips abroad now then I ever dreamed about.

Still have access to a health care system when needed.

Me and my Mrs are earning more now then we ever have.

Those pesky teachers have taught my daughter well and she's doing great at school.

Do I think things are better ... Yeah ... But I don't think thats down to brexit.

For those that blame Brexit for their troubles. How has it affected you or others you know?

My company lost £2million worth of business.

 

[Zico]

9 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

I expected little change overnight and don't think I've gained from it, maybe we will in the future. But like you said, I don't know if its made a change to my circumstances.

What I do know is I'm certainly better off and living comfortably. Is that down to Brexit? Probably not.

Do I care ... No

 

overnight no

but it's been 7 years now since the vote, nearly 4 since we left officially

and I don't think anyone is able to point to a tangible benefit

all there appears to be is a sense of satisfaction at the result

i wasn't pro eu before hand, I didn't notice anything in my life that was great because we were in the eu, we'd always been in it, i wasn't alive when we weren't

i voted remain because i didn't see the point

i still don't

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

The question was about people who are struggling. As with any issue like this there will be multiple factors, but you already knew that did nt you ? You cheeky scamp. 
As per W84 original post he is doing ok but does not know if it is because of or despite Brexit. 

“After Brexit”. It’s literally his first sentence. 
 

He’s asking how has Brexit affected you or others you know. Last sentence. 
 

What has your link to do with Brexit? 

[gonzo]

4 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Interesting read. Noticed that 89% of those that use the food banks are in receipt of some sort of benefits. Also, working aged people are over represented.

I know I'm lucky but I also work hard. I'm not saying everything is OK for everyone.

I was asking if anyone on here or knows of anyone directly that is struggling due to Brexit. So far the answer is no.

Well my bills,living and buisness costs are higher yet my prices arent.

Ive lost work than Ive gained due to all of the above. Managing is the oprative word really.

I know 2 family and friends who have had to close fabrication buisness as a direct result of Brexit. One in the sheet metal industry and the other wood and furnishings who relied heavily on exports.

 

 

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Well my bills,living and buisness costs are higher yet my prices arent.

Ive lost work than Ive gained due to all of the above. Managing is the oprative word really.

I know 2 family and friends who have had to close fabrication buisness as a direct result of Brexit. One in the sheet metal industry and the other wood and furnishings who relied heavily on exports.

 

 

WINNERS AND LOSERS

[wanderer1984]

8 minutes ago, Spider said:

My company lost £2million worth of business.

 

Your company as in you own it?

£2M that was in accounts or £2M in potential lost revenue or funding?

[Spider]

Just now, wanderer1984 said:

Your company as in you own it?

£2M that was in accounts or £2M in potential lost revenue or funding?

Family business

a few accounts in Ireland starting buying from Holland as it was cheaper and less aggro.

They were doing £2million a year and climbing.

We have yet to fill that gap.

As a result, no wage increases, whilst all other costs have gone up.

 

[wanderer1984]

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Well my bills,living and buisness costs are higher yet my prices arent.

Ive lost work than Ive gained due to all of the above. Managing is the oprative word really.

I know 2 family and friends who have had to close fabrication buisness as a direct result of Brexit. One in the sheet metal industry and the other wood and furnishings who relied heavily on exports.

 

 

Sounds shite mate.

Were they able to find alternative work that gives them the same standard of living?

[Ani]

Just now, royal white said:

“After Brexit”. It’s literally his first sentence. 
 

He’s asking how has Brexit affected you or others you know. Last sentence. 
 

What has your link to do with Brexit? 

After Brexit....means since Brexit.   Not because of....

Because Brexit did not happen in isolation it will always be subjective to say was it 'because of' rather than 'despite', for instance 

Camron resigned because of Brexit, May got kicked out because of Brexit, Boris got the job because of Brexit and then fucked up which led to Truss and her mini budget, which left us with Sunak. So you could argue the shambles which is the UK Govt is a consequence of Brexit. The total mess that is our borders is a result of the shambolic Govt so the high levels of legal and illegal migration is a consequence of Brexit seems logical. 
 

Or you could argue Brexit gives us control over our borders we have just not yet taken that opporunity, so the blame is the individuals not Brexit itself. A good idea badly executed is still a good idea. 

[Spider]

1 minute ago, wanderer1984 said:

Sounds shite mate.

Were they able to find alternative work that gives them the same standard of living?

The lads we had to lay off?

Ive no idea.

Bottom line, you said nobody had suffered as a direct result.

They have, across the industry.

The knock on effects are what you’ve missed. We buy less along the supply chain, so other companies are now down on income, they then tighten their belts.

You could argue that’s only as a result of a UK company doing the same. But the ROOT cause is EU customers sticking to EU suppliers as UK ones became unviable. And still are after 7 years.

Damage done.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

After Brexit....means since Brexit.   Not because of....

Because Brexit did not happen in isolation it will always be subjective to say was it 'because of' rather than 'despite', for instance 

Camron resigned because of Brexit, May got kicked out because of Brexit, Boris got the job because of Brexit and then fucked up which led to Truss and her mini budget, which left us with Sunak. So you could argue the shambles which is the UK Govt is a consequence of Brexit. The total mess that is our borders is a result of the shambolic Govt so the high levels of legal and illegal migration is a consequence of Brexit seems logical. 
 

Or you could argue Brexit gives us control over our borders we have just not yet taken that opporunity, so the blame is the individuals not Brexit itself. A good idea badly executed is still a good idea. 

I think it’s clear what he meant hence the other replies and his last sentence. So the food bank link is nothing to do with Brexit really is it as it’s happening worldwide. 

[Farrelli]

https://wcva.cymru/eu-funding-in-wales-a-legacy-not-to-be-forgotten/

 

[wanderer1984]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Bottom line, you said nobody had suffered as a direct result

I didnt mate.

I did however say that nobody had given me an answer.

Yourself and Gonzo now have 👍🏻

[Spider]

Just now, wanderer1984 said:

I didnt mate.

I did however say that nobody had given me an answer.

Yourself and Gonzo now have 👍🏻

Fair enough.

The opportunities we were promised still haven’t materialised, meanwhile SEVEN years have been lost and time is the one thing none of us ever get back.

[Farrelli]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-67177104.amp

[Farrelli]

How many examples are needed?

[Farrelli]

https://www.cityam.com/one-in-three-uk-business-owners-fear-their-company-wont-exist-anymore-in-a-year-as-brexit-onslaught-intensifies/

[Tonge moor green jacket]

22 minutes ago, Spider said:

My company lost £2million worth of business.

 

Manufacturing here has overtaken Italy, and apparently France.

Winners and losers.

Would that have happened without Brexit- who knows, but my instinct says no.

In general economies are struggling a bit as we know, but there are suggestions that that corner is being turned.

The best will grasp the nettle.

[Spider]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Manufacturing here has overtaken Italy, and apparently France.

Winners and losers.

Would that have happened without Brexit- who knows, but my instinct says no.

In general economies are struggling a bit as we know, but there are suggestions that that corner is being turned.

The best will grasp the nettle.

Manufacturing of what?

[wanderer1984]

Just now, Farrelli said:

How many examples are needed?

Fuck it. All I asked for is how it's effected those on here.

I've not said everything is rosey. Just wanted some examples from the people on here.

[Spider]

Just now, wanderer1984 said:

Fuck it. All I asked for is how it's effected those on here.

I've not said everything is rosey. Just wanted some examples from the people on here.

Whilst I’m sure Britain will be fine at some point, I just think we’ll end up where we were but having lost ten years of decent growth.

That ten years has meant I personally have missed out on decent wedge and had to change lifestyle accordingly.

Instant coffee for fucks sake

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, Spider said:

Manufacturing of what?

Everything as a whole sector.

Oh and your seven years comment is inaccurate- political obfuscation saw us only actually leave in 2020.

Chuck in a worldwide pandemic and a major war, and were doing OK overall.

I always believed it would be 5-10 years before we really started seeing any benefits, and that there would be a lull first.

The lull had happened, and there are still some difficulties, yet the positives are starting to show.

Ideological folk on both extremes will deny that, but that was always going to be the case.

 

[Ani]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

I think it’s clear what he meant hence the other replies and his last sentence. So the food bank link is nothing to do with Brexit really is it as it’s happening worldwide. 

Because it said 'after Brexit' think my subsequent posts make it clear that my point is 'because of' or 'despite of' are subjective. 
In Gonzos example would the world of external visual enhancement been better or worse without Brexit? No fucker knows . Even in Soiders example could a cheaper supplier have turned up anyway ? 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Whilst I’m sure Britain will be fine at some point, I just think we’ll end up where we were but having lost ten years of decent growth.

That ten years has meant I personally have missed out on decent wedge and had to change lifestyle accordingly.

Instant coffee for fucks sake

Yawn.

More drama queen stuff based on nowt.