Politics

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

No and no

Fair enough.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

More state dysfunction

 

[Zico]

27 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

More state dysfunction

 

Perseverance Ncube

sounds like a tetris spin off

[Not in Crawley]

Well it's an election day - likely my last London mayoral election. Good turnout this morning at our Labour HQ.

Couple of hours of getting Labour voters out and then work before heading back at about 7 ish for commuter calls.

Sadly, can't stay up all night to watch the coverage as I've got two meeting and a preview to watch tomorrow evening before a b'h weekend of househunting down by the seaside but nevertheless it's going to be an interesting day.

Will Labour not only take seats but more importantly increase voter share? Will the Conservatives do better than they expect and give Sunak a much needed boost?

[Spider]

I’ve just been to vote.

Tories haven’t even bothered putting a candidate up for Horwich council.

 

[Winchester White]

7 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’ve just been to vote.

Tories haven’t even bothered putting a candidate up for Horwich council.

 

You've got that Horwich & Blackrod Independents running the gaff haven't you?

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

You've got that Horwich & Blackrod Independents running the gaff haven't you?

Yeah

a load of beaky busybodies but they do their bit for the parish.

 

[athywhite1958]

2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Well it's an election day - likely my last London mayoral election. Good turnout this morning at our Labour HQ.

Couple of hours of getting Labour voters out and then work before heading back at about 7 ish for commuter calls.

Sadly, can't stay up all night to watch the coverage as I've got two meeting and a preview to watch tomorrow evening before a b'h weekend of househunting down by the seaside but nevertheless it's going to be an interesting day.

Will Labour not only take seats but more importantly increase voter share? Will the Conservatives do better than they expect and give Sunak a much needed boost?

Do you think Khan will get in again ?

[Not in Crawley]

25 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Do you think Khan will get in again ?

Yeah - be smaller win margin than before. Thats the thing with these Metro Mayoral votes they behave vary differently to the GE because they become very personality based. Watch what happens in Tees Valley, it'd be nuts if Ben Houchen gets voted out but I'd be surprised if Labour don't take seats there in the GE - see also Andy Street in the West Midlands. If either of those fall it'll be a surpirse and whatever Labour gains there are in the locals watch the Conservatives push that message (even though both Street and Houchen campaigned on issues so far away from westminister and distanced themselves from Sunak, but that won't matter at Conservative headquaters) it'll give Sunak some sort of lifeline to grimly plough on into the GE.

Kahn is loathed by some and he's been given the ULEZ stick, Susan Hall is a bit of a joke candidate so I'd expect the smaller parties to take from both - Greens/Lib Dems from Labour, Reform and other assorted independants from Hall. Kahn will still be delcared the winner on Saturday though I would have thought.

Turnout will be lower than a snake's belly as there are huge chunks of the population sick of politics and polticians in general after all the Brexit bollocks and Gate-Gates during the pandemic. Leftist parties like the Greens will do well in places as they mop up the Corybnista votes - Bristol, Brighton etc - basically anywhere you can throw a stick and hit a  white bloke in dreadlocks accompanied by a dog on a big of string throwing a diablo in the air.

The conservatives will says its not been as bad as predicted, you can't base anything on these turnout numbers and look at Birmingham and Tees Valley, Labour will say they've made huge gains which show the country is ready for change, Reform will say they are now in the mind of the electorate with more media coverage than the party deserves by their media backers, the Lib Dems will create some nutty PR photoshoot as they gain some west country seats, the Greens will say this is a win for the only truly progressive party and on the whole the country will shrug its shoulders as 80% of the population either didn't vote or don't care even if they did.

Or count binface wins and polls count for jack-all. Thats the joy of an election...

 

[athywhite1958]

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Yeah - be smaller win margin than before. Thats the thing with these Metro Mayoral votes they behave vary differently to the GE because they become very personality based. Watch what happens in Tees Valley, it'd be nuts if Ben Houchen gets voted out but I'd be surprised if Labour don't take seats there in the GE - see also Andy Street in the West Midlands. If either of those fall it'll be a surpirse and whatever Labour gains there are in the locals watch the Conservatives push that message (even though both Street and Houchen campaigned on issues so far away from westminister and distanced themselves from Sunak, but that won't matter at Conservative headquaters) it'll give Sunak some sort of lifeline to grimly plough on into the GE.

Kahn is loathed by some and he's been given the ULEZ stick, Susan Hall is a bit of a joke candidate so I'd expect the smaller parties to take from both - Greens/Lib Dems from Labour, Reform and other assorted independants from Hall. Kahn will still be delcared the winner on Saturday though I would have thought.

Turnout will be lower than a snake's belly as there are huge chunks of the population sick of politics and polticians in general after all the Brexit bollocks and Gate-Gates during the pandemic. Leftist parties like the Greens will do well in places as they mop up the Corybnista votes - Bristol, Brighton etc - basically anywhere you can throw a stick and hit a  white bloke in dreadlocks accompanied by a dog on a big of string throwing a diablo in the air.

The conservatives will says its not been as bad as predicted, you can't base anything on these turnout numbers and look at Birmingham and Tees Valley, Labour will say they've made huge gains which show the country is ready for change, Reform will say they are now in the mind of the electorate with more media coverage than the party deserves by their media backers, the Lib Dems will create some nutty PR photoshoot as they gain some west country seats, the Greens will say this is a win for the only truly progressive party and on the whole the country will shrug its shoulders as 80% of the population either didn't vote or don't care even if they did.

Or count binface wins and polls count for jack-all. Thats the joy of an election...

 

 

Thanks NIC

I was just thinking about it due to all the flak Khan gets re knife crime and congestion charges

[Not in Crawley]

2 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

 

Thanks NIC

I was just thinking about it due to all the flak Khan gets re knife crime and congestion charges

with that though - its sometimes people making a very loud noise who have an agenda. I mean, ULEZ hasn't affected as many people as the coverage it gets, and also a lot of London's population don't own cars - certainly in poorer, central areas. If you look at where the voices of discontent are they are in the suburbs such as Bromley, Bexley, Barnet - basically Conservative controlled boroughs. Im not saying some haven't been affected but its not as many as those who are vocal about it, and would never vote for Kahn/Labour anyway. 

As for Knife crime, yes its something that no one wants but none of the opposting parties have come up with any realy strategy to tackle it and actually perception of anti-social behaviour is lower than it actually is - hence all the 'London is gone' mob when it actually ranks lower as a city than more regional areas. And under every mayor the murder rate has fallen from 2004 - Johnson or Kahn in control.

 

[Ani]

I went Liberals in local election as you hear from them round here all year not just at election day.

Labour for mayor. 

[deeane Koontz]

3 hours ago, Spider said:

I’ve just been to vote.

Tories haven’t even bothered putting a candidate up for Horwich council.

 

So you weren't able to vote for Chris Green this time ? 😐

[DirtySanchez]

13 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

with that though - its sometimes people making a very loud noise who have an agenda. I mean, ULEZ hasn't affected as many people as the coverage it gets, and also a lot of London's population don't own cars - certainly in poorer, central areas. If you look at where the voices of discontent are they are in the suburbs such as Bromley, Bexley, Barnet - basically Conservative controlled boroughs. Im not saying some haven't been affected but its not as many as those who are vocal about it, and would never vote for Kahn/Labour anyway. 

As for Knife crime, yes its something that no one wants but none of the opposting parties have come up with any realy strategy to tackle it and actually perception of anti-social behaviour is lower than it actually is - hence all the 'London is gone' mob when it actually ranks lower as a city than more regional areas. And under every mayor the murder rate has fallen from 2004 - Johnson or Kahn in control.

 

Apparently the West Midlands police force area has the highest rate of knife crime but it doesn't seem to get the coverage that London does 

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said:

Apparently the West Midlands police force area has the highest rate of knife crime but it doesn't seem to get the coverage that London does 

Funny that, I do wonder why?

[royal white]

All Britain first aren’t we 🇬🇧

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

45 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Funny that, I do wonder why?

Probably because it's not the capital city, to be fair

[Not in Crawley]

21 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Probably because it's not the capital city, to be fair

That's a pretty unfair/unbalanced to be fair, to be fair. 

And it and comes over as naive in terms of how the media actually works in this country, which I'm sure you're not.

Of course London will always get the majority of coverage - but I've yet to see a Birmingham's Gone* type editorial. And both you and I know why that is.

*In relation to criminality

Edited May 2, 2024 by Not in Crawley
Clarification for the avoidence of whataboutery

[Not in Crawley]

34 minutes ago, royal white said:

All Britain first aren’t we 🇬🇧

They certainly do put across a compelling arguement.

Vote BRITAIN FIRST

NICK SCANLON

A MESSAGE FROM BRITAIN FIRST MAYORAL CANDIDATE NICK SCANLON

Dear voter,

London is fast becoming a Third World cesspit, where crime is rampant and radical Islamist extremists dominate the streets!

Homelessness has increased, along with food bank useage, but spending on woke nonsense has exploded!

The reality is we are running out of time to save and restore our beloved capital city!

What was once a safe and cohesive city has been transformed into a crime-ridden, unrecognisable disaster zone. If you want change, vote for it!

On Thursday 2 May, Vote ‘Britain First - No To Immigration!’

Nick Scanlon

Candidate, Mayor of London

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

8 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

That's a pretty unfair/unbalanced to be fair, to be fair. 

And it and comes over as naive in terms of how the media actually works in this country, which I'm sure you're not.

Of course London will always get the majority of coverage - but I've yet to see a Birmingham's Gone* type editorial. And both you and I know why that is.

*In relation to criminality

It really is that London attracts significantly more coverage, though

From all quarters

It's a city of the world in a sense that Birmingham isn't

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It really is that London attracts significantly more coverage, though

From all quarters

It's a city of the world in a sense that Birmingham isn't

Yes, as I said it will do - but not to the extent that the coverage in major media outlets focuses on the rates in one city without any comparitors to other major urban conabations in the UK and there is a clear agenda behind that from specific media quarters. To suggest otherwise is being naive, or disingenuous.

And you know this. One would hope.

[gonzo]

It's hardly a barometer I know but all I've seen round Blackpool South today is Labour Chris Webb signs in windows.

My ward will be different mind. I'll plait shit if it's not another blue victory round me. Can only try.

[royal white]

Just remember all those without photo ID would have been voting Labour.

 

 

[mickbrown]

Only elections for the police commissioner round my way.

Can’t be arsed at all. Not sure they can because I didn’t even get a polling card. 
 

Do you get one for them?

Edited May 2, 2024 by mickbrown

[Zico]

am I meant to be voting for something?

i saw a lib dem sign outside somones house the other day

but don't recall getting anything in the post