Politics

[kent_white]

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I really think the last 5 years of the tory government they knew they were out so they just took the michael.

I work with a few Etonians and they are beyond belief well connected and they don't give a shit about places like Bolton, unless they can earn money. 

To be fair. I don't give a shit about places like Eton 😁

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, kent_white said:

To be fair. I don't give a shit about places like Eton 😁

Neither do I, cunts to a man - but they have contacts and money and it's an unfair world.

[kent_white]

Just now, royal white said:

They’re doing exactly what the last lot did. Throwing money at it. Has there been an attempt at having talks with Russia? 

It's the building blocks of an alternative peace deal. With a security guarantee which is what Zelenskyy wants. 

So if somehow Donald can get back on board and work with Russia to meet us half way then we might have half a chance of making things work!

[kent_white]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

Neither do I, cunts to a man - but they have contacts and money and it's an unfair world.

We've all got contacts. 3 for a hundred. And he'll drop off! 😉😂

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

It's the building blocks of an alternative peace deal. With a security guarantee which is what Zelenskyy wants. 

So if somehow Donald can get back on board and work with Russia to meet us half way then we might have half a chance of making things work!

Sorry to quote myself. But it's also a nod to what Trump wants too (a peace with Europe taking the lead). 

[Not in Crawley]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

We've all got contacts. 3 for a hundred. And he'll drop off! 😉😂

Are they going to take me to Goucho and  have a very expensive coffee?

[kent_white]

3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Are they going to take me to Goucho and  have a very expensive coffee?

Trust me. You won't need coffee! 😂

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, kent_white said:

It's the building blocks of an alternative peace deal. With a security guarantee which is what Zelenskyy wants. 

So if somehow Donald can get back on board and work with Russia to meet us half way then we might have half a chance of making things work!

So we are waiting on the Don. It’s him who has instigated all of this. It wouldn’t matter one bit who was in power in the UK or other European countries. 😉

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Trust me. You won't need coffee! 😂

I was alluding 

[Not in Crawley]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

So we are waiting on the Don. It’s him who has instigated all of this. It wouldn’t matter one bit who was in power in the UK or other European countries. 😉

It really would.

I know you love the power play and the aggression and the over priced burgers, but life and politics doesn't work that way.

Trump damaged himself with the display. 

[kent_white]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

So we are waiting on the Don. It’s him who has instigated all of this. It wouldn’t matter one bit who was in power in the UK or other European countries. 😉

I don't care who sorts it as long as it gets sorted. 

Although this very much feels like the adults trying to resurrect things after he's done his best to fuck things up! 😉

Let's hope we can end up somewhere in the middle. Then we can all moan that it wasn't exactly what any of us wanted! 🤣

[royal white]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

It really would.

I know you love the power play and the aggression and the over priced burgers, but life and politics doesn't work that way.

Trump damaged himself with the display. 

Bollocks. If Biden/Harris were still in power none of these emergency meeting and talks would have taken place. The exact same thing that has been happening over the last 3 years would still be happening.

[Not in Crawley]

Any western leader who capitulates land to an aggressive nation should be supported. This is really simple.

It's baffling that people who think other 

[wanderer1984]

30 minutes ago, kent_white said:

You've been on about Europe not getting it's act together all week. Now we're getting out act together and you're still bloody moaning! 😁

The Trump Effect 😁

[Not in Crawley]

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

Bollocks. If Biden/Harris were still in power none of these emergency meeting and talks would have taken place. The exact same thing that has been happening over the last 3 years would still be happening.

Rot. And if you think that you've drunk a lot populist Kool Aid

[Spider]

1 minute ago, wanderer1984 said:

The Trump Effect 😁

The Trump Effect doesn’t seem to be the one Trump wants.

 

[kent_white]

8 minutes ago, royal white said:

Bollocks. If Biden/Harris were still in power none of these emergency meeting and talks would have taken place. The exact same thing that has been happening over the last 3 years would still be happening.

True. But we also wouldn't have severley damaged the Western alliance that we've carefully cultivated since WW2. 

[kent_white]

2 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

The Trump Effect 😁

Maybe! 

It's a bit like not concentrating on your home security for decades and then having no choice because two lunatics have moved in on either side 😁

[royal white]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

Rot. And if you think that you've drunk a lot populist Kool Aid

Do you honestly believe Keir Starmer wants all this on his plate now? The UK  and Europe have been forced into what they’re doing because of Trump getting in power. We’ve increased our military spending because of Trump telling us too. 

[Cheese]

To be fair, Trump has caused a much needed reaction in Europe. But he's done that by proving he's an even bigger fucking lunatic than we thought he was.

[wanderer1984]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

The Trump Effect doesn’t seem to be the one Trump wants.

 

Seems to have got Europe upping their game.

He'll have the overall say so on what happens no doubt.

Starmer penned deal for those minerals yet?

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, royal white said:

Do you honestly believe Keir Starmer wants all this on his plate now? The UK  and Europe have been forced into what they’re doing because of Trump getting in power. We’ve increased our military spending because of Trump telling us too. 

Before the election the Labour Party said as part of their promises to invest more in defence. It's always been a priority but most people don't read manifestos

[kent_white]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

The Trump Effect doesn’t seem to be the one Trump wants.

 

I'm sure whatever happens - the true believers will be certain that everything that has transpired has done so according to the Trumpmeisters design*

 

 

* Darth Sidius reference intentional 

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

To be fair, Trump has caused a much needed reaction in Europe. But he's done that by proving he's an even bigger fucking lunatic than we thought he was.

Biden told us what would happen.

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

Before the election the Labour Party said as part of their promises to invest more in defence. It's always been a priority but most people don't read manifestos

I was on here at the time saying I was surprised it wasn't higher up the political agenda. 

In a world where we can't trust the US - we need to massively understand our game.